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    So i tried searching for this with no luck but i did see something on the app. My front alignment is way off. How do you adjust camber? Any info would be great seeing as how my car is very sketchy to drive in the snow with this problem.

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    You can't without adjustable control arms. You can shift the subframe to equal it out tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo3 View Post
    You can't without adjustable control arms. You can shift the subframe to equal it out tho.
    Thats what the diy said on the app but it doesnt make any sense to me. Any pointers...?

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    Well, it depends how your camber is off. Sometimes the subframe shifts and the camber is off on both sides, but opposite. You can shift the subframe back. If you are postivie or negative on both side because you lowered the car, not much you can do besides adjustable control arms
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    It seems as though the camber is only off on the passenger side which is the side i had to replace a bunch of parts on. Swapped the knuckle, lower front control arm, and strut from my avant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwes25 View Post
    Thats what the diy said on the app but it doesnt make any sense to me. Any pointers...?
    Just loosen the 4 bolts holding the subframe. Loosen to just slightly snug. Then lower car to ground on all 4wheels and have a couple buddies push it side to side til you get the camber you want.

    Might want to replace the one time use stretch bolts. I have reused mine but have new bolts waiting gona install after the new arms get in. With used bolts subframe hasn't shifted.

    Note: This could've just been the alignment lift shifting, since its counter intuitive (lower suspension should = more negative camber). While car is on alignment lift and you sit on the driver seat, driver side camber goes more positive, not negative, and passenger more negative. So you might want to compensate for that. Unless you normally drive with a passenger most of the time, then just equal it out. *again possibly just a weak lift shifting causing uneven surface*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwes25 View Post
    It seems as though the camber is only off on the passenger side which is the side i had to replace a bunch of parts on. Swapped the knuckle, lower front control arm, and strut from my avant.

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    There are special Audi tools to carefully and easily slide (or "shift") the subframe side to side while it is on the alignment rack in order to get the camber perfectly even. The goal is not to get a specific number, but just to get the camber exactly equal on each side (aka: getting the "cross camber" to be zero).

    Exactly no one other than the dealership has those tools. My alignment guy just uses ratchet straps. This allows him to coax the subframe over in small amounts while it is on the rack. The vast, vast majority of alignment shops will tell you the camber is "not adjustable at all". The few who will adjust the camber for you will charge you extra to do it. A reasonable fee would be $75 or $100 extra to adjust the camber. To which you should reply. "<SIGH> OK do it, but it better be perfect."

    Apparently my alignment guy is freaking amazing, because he will do a full alignment to my custom specs, touching every adjustment (even the sliding the subframe) - for 40 bucks. And I can even stay and watch if I want. I pay him more because that is ridiculous. lol
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