How long did it take before you got used to your Stage2+ ?

[silverf0x]

I'm in the market for a Unitronic Stage 2+ tune (good reviews, affordable, but most importantly LOCAL to me).

It seems to make a noticeable power difference over stock if I read the reviews.. but I was wondering how much time did it take you to get used to that new power to a point where it felt "slow" again..

Also, did you noticed a better or worst fuel consumption?

[GRUMPY-S4]

I wonder how soon people get used to it also. Im used to my Stage 1... But always find it fun.

[Mr.Tan]

i still think my stock ecu car feels fast, and i've had it for well over a year now. Maybe because i dont drive around flooring it everywhere?


i did grow tired of the power in my GTI though, i'd say after about a month or two it felt slow

[waxxonMTL]

i got used to my 4wd ( or 2wd switch) 1500kg, 575whp dynapack, in about 1 summer. so for a flash with 400whp and heavier car, i would say less than that lol !

the thing is ; car these days are so well-calibrated that you don't feel the rush as you would feel on older car. Take for exemple a 911, you could take an older car, like a 993 gen, twin turbo it, mod it to be as fast as a 997 turbo S factory car. take both car for a spin. both car offer the same performance on a 0-100 and 1/4 miles, but i can bet you the 993 will feel more alive, more quicker.

simply beacuse car nowaday are more ''balanced'' than they were before.

[carlosvjr92]

I'm still stock because I decided I'd rather not spend money as long as I'm having fun in my car. Now I'm starting to want s little more so I'll probably go stage 1 in a few months. Wanted to do unitronic at first but no tcu tune is a deal breaker for me

[silverf0x]

i got used to my 4wd ( or 2wd switch) 1500kg, 575whp dynapack, in about 1 summer. so for a flash with 400whp and heavier car, i would say less than that lol !

the thing is ; car these days are so well-calibrated that you don't feel the rush as you would feel on older car. Take for exemple a 911, you could take an older car, like a 993 gen, twin turbo it, mod it to be as fast as a 997 turbo S factory car. take both car for a spin. both car offer the same performance on a 0-100 and 1/4 miles, but i can bet you the 993 will feel more alive, more quicker.

simply beacuse car nowaday are more ''balanced'' than they were before.

Hey! Sent you msg on your new channel on the MSC ;)

[doug97gxe]

you never really get used to Stage 2 where it feels slow because once you get to the upper RPM's it feels like something hooked on to ur bumper and is pulling the car faster and faster.. stock it just dies off

[brianc21]

I'm a year and half into it and I'm still loving it. Actually just flashed back to stock last night for a dealer service today. I guess I may be used to stage 2+ because stock is just boring now.

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[silverf0x]

I'm a year and half into it and I'm still loving it. Actually just flashed back to stock last night for a dealer service today. I guess I may be used to stage 2+ because stock is just boring now.

Do you also remove the pulley?
Have your been TD1'd ?
Ever had issues with the dealer?

[brianc21]

Do you also remove the pulley?
Have your been TD1'd ?
Ever had issues with the dealer?

This will be my first visit as it's my 15k service and got tuned the day of my 5k. My dealer is cool so I'm only flashing back in case it gets hooked up to the machine. Pulley and intake stay on. We will see today I guess.

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Intake is all you need.

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[Vanimal]

Intake is all you need.

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Thanks! I originally deleted it being i did not want to thread jack. But thanks!

[jimrobbington]

i still think my stock ecu car feels fast, and i've had it for well over a year now. Maybe because i dont drive around flooring it everywhere?


i did grow tired of the power in my GTI though, i'd say after about a month or two it felt slow

Lol, funny considering I was dead even racing gti this week from a 40-85 pull, stock for stock.

[doug97gxe]

Lol, funny considering I was dead even racing gti this week from a 40-85 pull, stock for stock.

he lied to you or something.. you shouldn't be dead even with a GTI

[jimrobbington]

he lied to you or something.. you shouldn't be dead even with a GTI

Well, we never talked. It looked and sounded stock, no proof otherwise. At around 900 lbs lighter and FWD, it's not too far fetched. Also Denver elevation. I was disappointed to say the least. I truly hope the guy had a stage 1 tune, but I'm not going to lie to myself just to feel better. Lol.

[doug97gxe]

Well, we never talked. It looked and sounded stock, no proof otherwise. At around 900 lbs lighter and FWD, it's not too far fetched. Also Denver elevation. I was disappointed to say the least. I truly hope the guy had a stage 1 tune, but I'm not going to lie to myself just to feel better. Lol.

They are only 210 hp stock .. I never had trouble with my buddies GTI stock


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[HeymyAudi]

Heres the trick... You drive a stock Mini Cooper around town (NON-S) and then when you get in your Audi say hmmmmm every 3 weeks you will find it sooooooooooooooooooo fast.. You cant get bored with that thing...

[jimrobbington]

They are only 210 hp stock .. I never had trouble with my buddies GTI stock


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Well that makes me feel better at least lol. Still need me a pulley/software.

[MrFunk]

Well, we never talked. It looked and sounded stock, no proof otherwise. At around 900 lbs lighter and FWD, it's not too far fetched. Also Denver elevation. I was disappointed to say the least. I truly hope the guy had a stage 1 tune, but I'm not going to lie to myself just to feel better. Lol.

Everyone I know who own GTI's - (several) are all tuned but look stock otherwise. Stage 2 on a GTI is pretty potent and is not all that much work to get to... They are quick and if someone knows how to drive they could prob hang with a stock S4 with a rolling start. Their issue is traction... my friend's stage 1 would easily loose traction in 3rd gear pulls... they really need a limited slip diff... from a DIG it's another story.

Lots of sleepers out there...

[jimrobbington]

Everyone I know who own GTI's - (several) are all tuned but look stock otherwise. Stage 2 on a GTI is pretty potent and is not all that much work to get to... They are quick and if someone knows how to drive they could prob hang with a stock S4.
Lots of sleepers out there...

Awesome! That makes me much more happy. I don't care if a tuned gti is as fast as me. Lol!

[vwblackb5]

Heres the trick... You drive a stock Mini Cooper around town (NON-S) and then when you get in your Audi say hmmmmm every 3 weeks you will find it sooooooooooooooooooo fast.. You cant get bored with that thing...

Haha thats what I do with my K04'd B5.. I drive it 1-2 days to alternate and instantly feel how awesome and light it is but become sad panda because it's slow compared to the S4.

Then when I get in and drive my stock b8.5 S4, I always get blown away with the instant torque and powaaaa but then realize it's a fat panda compared to the b5. It's a nice little cycle of new and old.


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[HeymyAudi]

Yea it keeps it interesting for sure.. You learn to appreciate both for what they are. But I love my Fat Expensive pig..


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[silverf0x]

Did you guys with stage2 get better or worst fuel consumption?

[Loe]

although i'm not on unitronic stage 2+, i'm already used to my stage 2, I went up the stages too fast. Enjoy stage 1 while you can, speed becomes addictive.

[silverf0x]

although i'm not on unitronic stage 2+, i'm already used to my stage 2, I went up the stages too fast. Enjoy stage 1 while you can, speed becomes addictive.

I'm stock for now...

[jsh139]

although i'm not on unitronic stage 2+, i'm already used to my stage 2, I went up the stages too fast. Enjoy stage 1 while you can, speed becomes addictive.

That's my plan. Run with stage 1 for a while until I get used to it and then go stage 2. Bam, instant new car :)

[pdqgp]

Did you guys with stage2 get better or worst fuel consumption?

Same if not better. Tunes are more efficient. It's in the teens to single digits here, I drive with my foot in-it a lot and I'm averaging 20-21mpg mixed driving according to the dash. About 320mi per tank is what the system tells me upon fill up.

[carlosvjr92]

Currently stock but I'll probably go stage 1 unitronic by May and then towards the end of the year or next year go stage 2. I figured no point in upgrading until I stop enjoying my car as much so I've been home stock for 2+ years now. Finally moving onto exhaust + intake now to get a little more out of it

[silverf0x]

Same if not better. Tunes are more efficient. It's in the teens to single digits here, I drive with my foot in-it a lot and I'm averaging 20-21mpg mixed driving according to the dash. About 320mi per tank is what the system tells me upon fill up.

Thanks. I'll need to convert that to L/100km :lol:

[TomPaul10]

I'm dying for a tune, but i spent that money on an exhaust as my first mod, which honestly is a sin to me in the book of tuning; i feel as you should always tune first.. this time around exhaust note was to addicting; and I'm gonna enjoy the new to me S4.

[TexasDfwS4]

Stage 2+ (Unitronic) and love it, been tuned for 1 1/2 years and still enjoy the power.

[EHesh14]

Giac stage 2 91 file felt pretty boring after driving my bro's 560wph narrow body Wrx for a few days, but the S feels fast again after a week so I'm happy. Especially 1-3rd gear!

I kept pulling on a 13 stock rs5 a few weeks ago. Slowed down after I beat him by 3 car lengths.

Alpha boost cooler, jhm stage 3 clutch/flywheel helped

[dyl0n]

When I think I get used to it, I throw it in dynamic and get on it on a turn then it surprises me every time

[CELison]

Got used to it in about a week. It doesn't feel slow by any means though. I'm also a little jaded.

[mrmomo313]

pump file never really excited me until I added jhm's overdrive crank pulley. Race map never gets old though

[Thurston]

This will be my first visit as it's my 15k service and got tuned the day of my 5k. My dealer is cool so I'm only flashing back in case it gets hooked up to the machine. Pulley and intake stay on. We will see today I guess.

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if you flashed back to stock surely you'll be good. This notion that dealers are cool, is a "i'll believe it when I see it" thing for me but only after you have a sport diff failure or insert ____ failure and they let you strip down to stock and cover it under warranty then that'd be a cool dealer imo. I've never experienced a cool audi dealer so i'm probably jaded but I'm not even optimistic they exist. All that said - you may have the coolest of dealers and at the very least it is good that you have gotten that impression from them so far, I am just always skeptical of such a thing. Let us know how it goes sir.

[brianc21]

if you flashed back to stock surely you'll be good. This notion that dealers are cool, is a "i'll believe it when I see it" thing for me but only after you have a sport diff failure or insert ____ failure and they let you strip down to stock and cover it under warranty then that'd be a cool dealer imo. I've never experienced a cool audi dealer so i'm probably jaded but I'm not even optimistic they exist. All that said - you may have the coolest of dealers and at the very least it is good that you have gotten that impression from them so far, I am just always skeptical of such a thing. Let us know how it goes sir.

Yes everything went just fine. Doesn't look like they scanned the car tho, was kinda hoping they would just to see. You are spot on regarding the dealership, it's definitely a case by case situation and you don't really know for sure until shit hits the fan. I do know they don't mess intakes and measure pullies which is where that part came up. All good for now.

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[GT-R & S4]

I went directly to Stage II pulley, engine, and transmission tune, three months after owning my '15 S4. My initial impressions were that I really wasn't hugely impressed, but it could have been I still owned my '14 GT-R then, and that's a hard benchmark to follow. To be fair, the car was faster, but not the knock me back me my seat, "Oh, crap!", faster. Now, months later, I would say the performance gains are noticeable depending upon the driving situation. Sometimes I'll take off (rarely, if ever, launched, so mostly from a roll) and I'll think, "Hmm, doesn't seem very fast". Other times, I guess I'll hit it just right, and I'll think, "Ooookaay, that's more like it!". I hope to hang on to my S4 for another year or two before selling it, or at least that amount of time before getting another vehicle to be my toy, another monster like the GT-R. I've gone through a lot of very high performance vehicles in the last few years, so I tend to get bored with a vehicle fairly quickly (months to a year or so). Usually it is because I've finished fixing it up/modifying it, to my personal liking, and am ready to move on to something else, or the performance of a vehicle just doesn't do it for me anymore. It's an awful (and expensive) hobby.

[GT-R & S4]

if you flashed back to stock surely you'll be good. This notion that dealers are cool, is a "i'll believe it when I see it" thing for me but only after you have a sport diff failure or insert ____ failure and they let you strip down to stock and cover it under warranty then that'd be a cool dealer imo. I've never experienced a cool audi dealer so i'm probably jaded but I'm not even optimistic they exist. All that said - you may have the coolest of dealers and at the very least it is good that you have gotten that impression from them so far, I am just always skeptical of such a thing. Let us know how it goes sir.

I think the best most of us can hope for is an Audi Service Department that you are open and honest with about your mods, and they don't pitch a fit over it, point one. My dealer knows that I don't want my vehicle scanned unless it is absolutely necessary, and if that's the case I will have my tuner flash back to stock beforehand. Point two, however, is if you ever need to bring your modified vehicle in for problems, because at that point, even if you've flashed back to stock, they just may be inclined to deny a warranty claim, because they know already you're not stock. Then again, you could have a dealership that will be sensible and reasonable about the situation, assuming whatever problem you're having is not the result of your modifications. Then again, they could point to your mods as an underlying reason for a fault...then what?