Help Picking A Engine

[fharper]

My search for an Audi has lead me to the B6 because all of the B5 i was finding the was in good condition had one of two problems either they were already modded or the asking price was to high and for the price they were aking i could get a B6.
Now on to what I need help with engine wise I know there are count less things that could be done to the 2.0t but have been leaning to the 3.0 i was wondering options are out there for the engine power wise.
if you think the 2.0 is better can you tell me why

thanks in advance

[jacobsen]

There is a 3.slow tune for the 3.0 but the 2.0t can make more power by far, it's a newer design and more powerful improvement on the 1.8t. If you were to pick a motor for your b6 I might say the v8, no turbo to worry about. Find a 2.0 TDI and you'll be the whiff of every nostril. The 2.7t isn't budget friendly, I did just find a source for k04's for $725 however. But that going to be a pricey build hole. Fun though, thats no lie. I rock an apr stage 2 1.8tqm, it's my audi on a budget. Good time to go b6 I spoze, lots of cheap upgrades out there. 18z brakes, garret turbos, intakes and exhaust, injectors, programming, it's all gonna cost ya something. Word of caution, always shop around, you can find good deals, fix things right the first time or you will revisit them on the audi. You wont find a better car community, theres a fist full of dudes carrying many of us sometimes.

[egovreau]

If you can find a 2.7, that could be an option as well. Somewhere in this forum is a DIY that sends to pretty well cover in detail everything you'll need for the swap. I found one local to me for $500, complete, just need to collect all of the parts to make the swap. I would have grabbed it in a heartbeat if not for the other things I need to get first (like a control arm kit).

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[fharper]

There is a 3.slow tune for the 3.0 but the 2.0t can make more power by far, it's a newer design and more powerful improvement on the 1.8t. If you were to pick a motor for your b6 I might say the v8, no turbo to worry about. Find a 2.0 TDI and you'll be the whiff of every nostril. The 2.7t isn't budget friendly, I did just find a source for k04's for $725 however. But that going to be a pricey build hole. Fun though, thats no lie. I rock an apr stage 2 1.8tqm, it's my audi on a budget. Good time to go b6 I spoze, lots of cheap upgrades out there. 18z brakes, garret turbos, intakes and exhaust, injectors, programming, it's all gonna cost ya something. Word of caution, always shop around, you can find good deals, fix things right the first time or you will revisit them on the audi. You wont find a better car community, theres a fist full of dudes carrying many of us sometimes.

Thanks for you input and i'm planing on this to be a long term build so I will save and geet the right parts the 1st time

[jesse500]

Find yourself a Nice 04/05 A4 Quattro, 1.8T Auto or stick, your choice. I've had both, an stick is alot more fun.

A few simple mods, can make it alot more fun to drive, much quicker, and still perfectly reliable.

[jacobsen]

Get a 6 speed

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[fharper]

One thing for sure its going to be 6speed

[diagnosticator]

Are you asking about OE engines or any engine that will fit into a B6 A4? In Europe and RTW, Audi has a lot of different engines engineered to fit into the B6. Anything from a 1.4l, and 2.0l TFSI gas engines, the new 1.8l TFSI I4 and 3.0l NA and the supercharged 3.0l DI gas engine, several 2.0l I4 TDIs, several 2.7l and 3.0l V6 TDIs and the 4.3l V8 NA DI Gasoline engine. There are also other engines I have not mentioned here.

If your are interested in only the two engines available to the NA market, the 1.8T turbocharged I4 and the 3.0l NA V6, both port fuel injection, each engine has it's merits and drawbacks.

The 1.8T is an Audi design originally, and eventually used in VW group vehicles from Audi, VW, SEAT, and Skoda, as well as for industrial and marine applications. The 1.8T is a multiple time 1st place "Wards Best Engines" winner. This engine is amazingly flexible, reliable and fuel efficient while providing unusually good performance. The 1.8T is a very stong engine structurally, and can develope more than 600 HP with enough boost and the correct fuel and ignition timing settings. The 1.8T was developed from the EA113 5 cylinder I5 engines that where produced in the late 70's and 80's, mainly by the development of the ground breaking 5 valve configuration. The newer 1.8T uses continuous intake cam timing adjustment with the exhaust cam timing fixed to the crankshaft position.

The 3.0l V6 engine is a more recently designed engine that has an aluminum block and heads. This engine is designed along the same lines as the 2.7T and 2.8l V6 gasoline engines with a different bore and stroke and the 5 valve heads with intake and exhaust cam timing adjustment. The 3.0l V6 is not known to be a very sturdy engine due to the aluminum block without iron or steel cylinder liners. Performance increases are limited due to natural aspiration and knock combustion onset limits to compression ratio and ignition timing tuning. There is a supercharger kit available for the 3.0l V6 with a poor record of reliability and problematic performance increases.

[fharper]

Are you asking about OE engines or any engine that will fit into a B6 A4? In Europe and RTW, Audi has a lot of different engines engineered to fit into the B6. Anything from a 1.4l, and 2.0l TFSI gas engines, the new 1.8l TFSI I4 and 3.0l NA and the supercharged 3.0l DI gas engine, several 2.0l I4 TDIs, several 2.7l and 3.0l V6 TDIs and the 4.3l V8 NA DI Gasoline engine. There are also other engines I have not mentioned here.

If your are interested in only the two engines available to the NA market, the 1.8T turbocharged I4 and the 3.0l NA V6, both port fuel injection, each engine has it's merits and drawbacks.

The 1.8T is an Audi design originally, and eventually used in VW group vehicles from Audi, VW, SEAT, and Skoda, as well as for industrial and marine applications. The 1.8T is a multiple time 1st place "Wards Best Engines" winner. This engine is amazingly flexible, reliable and fuel efficient while providing unusually good performance. The 1.8T is a very stong engine structurally, and can develope more than 600 HP with enough boost and the correct fuel and ignition timing settings. The 1.8T was developed from the EA113 5 cylinder I5 engines that where produced in the late 70's and 80's, mainly by the development of the ground breaking 5 valve configuration. The newer 1.8T uses continuous intake cam timing adjustment with the exhaust cam timing fixed to the crankshaft position.

The 3.0l V6 engine is a more recently designed engine that has an aluminum block and heads. This engine is designed along the same lines as the 2.7T and 2.8l V6 gasoline engines with a different bore and stroke and the 5 valve heads with intake and exhaust cam timing adjustment. The 3.0l V6 is not known to be a very sturdy engine due to the aluminum block without iron or steel cylinder liners. Performance increases are limited due to natural aspiration and knock combustion onset limits to compression ratio and ignition timing tuning. There is a supercharger kit available for the 3.0l V6 with a poor record of reliability and problematic performance increases.

Thank you for the very detailed response help make the choice a little easier

[Boost_creep]

I have a full 2.7t swap for sale in the FS section. Engine, harness, ecu, intercoolers, etc.
And I'm right on LI!

[Digitaldub]

The 2.7t isn't budget friendly, I did just find a source for k04's for $725 however.

Is your source able to do the K04-015 for $725?
Thanks,

[jacobsen]

Is your source able to do the K04-015 for $725?
Thanks,

Diesel performance inc, minnesota.

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[fharper]

need some opinions on this

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/cto/5444280888.html

[idotavant]

what are your engine needs/wants? for what purpose is the car? these are related questions. the community needs to know what you want the engine to do to give an opinion on an engine to suit you.

[Charles.waite]

need some opinions on this

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/cto/5444280888.html

Nope. That looks haggard...

[fharper]

what are your engine needs/wants? for what purpose is the car? these are related questions. the community needs to know what you want the engine to do to give an opinion on an engine to suit you.

I plan to build the to about 450-5 whp over the next couple of years this is going to be a long slow project I want to make sure I do everything right the 1st time

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[fharper]

Nope. That looks haggard...

That's what I was thinking

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[onceover]

I plan to build the to about 450-5 whp over the next couple of years this is going to be a long slow project I want to make sure I do everything right the 1st time

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And you're set on a B6? If so I'd say start with a 3.0 6 speed car and do a 2.7t swap. 450whp out of a 1.8t will be difficult and no fun to daily drive.

[Mikael]

2JZGTE

[Charles.waite]

And you're set on a B6? If so I'd say start with a 3.0 6 speed car and do a 2.7t swap. 450whp out of a 1.8t will be difficult and no fun to daily drive.

This.

[fharper]

I found a 04 with 216000 miles on it for 2,500 taking a look later 1.8t

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[fharper]

Look what I got today


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[jacobsen]

Look what I got today


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Good price, any problems? Now for that 2.7t gt28 build...!

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[fharper]

Good price, any problems? Now for that 2.7t gt28 build...!

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The CEL was on for misfire on coil B but i cleared the code and waiting for it to come back on hoping it was just a fluke

[onceover]

1.8t? You said you wanted to start the build right. That would have been a 3.0.

[fharper]

1.8t? You said you wanted to start the build right. That would have been a 3.0.

yes it is 1.8t
the 3.0 i was looking had a lot going with it so it turned me off from that car then this guy with the 1.8t made it to hard for me to say no