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    Having this done today and was hoping to get some feedback from people that have this tune. Is there a significant difference from running Stage 1 with a HFC? GIAC has zero information about Stage 2 on their website. I have an 034 HFC. Thanks

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    I would think that there is a stepped gain with your mods. Stage 1 < Stage 1 + HFC < Stage 2

    However, I think the majority of the gain is with Stage 1 and the HFC combined as the HFC alone adds a good deal of performance.
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    Why do I not see Stage 2 for the B8.5 anywhere on their site...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllroadCorbin View Post
    Why do I not see Stage 2 for the B8.5 anywhere on their site...
    I just emailed Alex@GIAC this morning asking about their website and why it doesn't show updated options for our cars. He said that they had an issue over the holidays and lost a lot of data. Supposedly they are working on it and a new website as well.

    You could email him directly. He usually answers pretty quickly.

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    I saw an IG post recently with an Allroad running their GIAC E85 tune. "Stage 1 320HP cornfed Audi Allroad"
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    Well damn. That's pretty cool. I'm stage 2. Curious what their 93 and E85 tunes do for that


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    Quote Originally Posted by blbroo View Post
    I just emailed Alex@GIAC this morning asking about their website and why it doesn't show updated options for our cars. He said that they had an issue over the holidays and lost a lot of data. Supposedly they are working on it and a new website as well.

    You could email him directly. He usually answers pretty quickly.

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    I saw an IG post recently with an Allroad running their GIAC E85 tune. "Stage 1 320HP cornfed Audi Allroad"
    Also assuming thats crank hp? because good lord if thats whp, i'll switch software today
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllroadCorbin View Post
    Also assuming thats crank hp? because good lord if thats whp, i'll switch software today
    Crank. HP numbers from dynos are hard to compare though.

    Looking further down the comments in that post, doesn't look like stage 2 for b8.5 is released yet.
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    Wait so they have or do not have it for the B8.5? I am leaning towards Giac, but I want to jump to stage two


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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDIMAN33 View Post
    Wait so they have or do not have it for the B8.5? I am leaning towards Giac, but I want to jump to stage two


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    According to the IG post, they don't, but I don't work for GIAC. AllroadCorbin is asking to get a direct answer.


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    Allroadcorbin, let me know man. I want to get on this


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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDIMAN33 View Post
    Wait so they have or do not have it for the B8.5? I am leaning towards Giac, but I want to jump to stage two


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    Quote Originally Posted by blbroo View Post
    According to the IG post, they don't, but I don't work for GIAC. AllroadCorbin is asking to get a direct answer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Quattro View Post
    @AM33 You mean your mom is looking to jump to a stage 2 tune... that definitely makes her unique. Most women couldn't give two craps about performance upgrades.
    Well, I'm doing it on My A4..... So I'll be like everyone else....


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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDIMAN33 View Post
    Well, I'm doing it on My A4..... So I'll be like everyone else....


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    Curious, what kind of car does your mom drive? Guessing that she likes decent cars too if she's supported your cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDIMAN33 View Post
    Well, I'm doing it on My A4..... So I'll be like everyone else....
    Quote Originally Posted by blbroo View Post
    Curious, what kind of car does your mom drive? Guessing that she likes decent cars too if she's supported your cars.
    She drives the A4 in the picture. Duh.
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    When I was at AWE last summer they said (at the time) GIAC only had one tune for our cars and that since AWE in particular didn't sell an HFC that was the best tune they offered. Is this GIAC B8 Stage2 tune new or is this only for B8.5/E85 Stage 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blbroo View Post
    Curious, what kind of car does your mom drive? Guessing that she likes decent cars too if she's supported your cars.
    Her car game is odd.Her cars aren't really special.Always has had Benz's, BMWs, Range Rovers, Volvos. She mostly drives the Benz.shes never really drove the Audi. I use the Benz for my volunteer work... She really doesn't drive much at all though....


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    I'm having this done at AWE. Forgot to mention I'm B8, not B8.5. I can ask them when I pick it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s4baby View Post
    I'm having this done at AWE. Forgot to mention I'm B8, not B8.5. I can ask them when I pick it up.
    I had a conversation with AWE last year and all of their testing is with the stock cat. I've asked GIAC many times and they tell me that there is absolutely a different file for stage 1 vs stage 2. When my tuner was chosing the options in their program, he commented on it too.
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    hmm i may need to pay AWE a visit and verify which version i have installed. thanks.
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    Everytime i have my tune removed and reinstalled they tell there is a stage 2 for my post facelift and it's suppose to raise the boost and delete the cell light

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDIMAN33 View Post
    Her car game is odd.Her cars aren't really special.Always has had Benz's, BMWs, Range Rovers, Volvos. She mostly drives the Benz.shes never really drove the Audi. I use the Benz for my volunteer work... She really doesn't drive much at all though....


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    By volunteer work you mean court ordered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by homelessNY_LI View Post
    By volunteer work you mean court ordered?
    Unfortunately, yes. Any given Sunday you can see me on the side of Sunrise picking up trash wearing an orange vest. Lmao


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    They did confirm that GIAC is working on updating their website. Stage 2 file is definitely different, as it was referenced on my receipt with the file name. Car is running really good since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s4baby View Post
    They did confirm that GIAC is working on updating their website. Stage 2 file is definitely different, as it was referenced on my receipt with the file name. Car is running really good since.
    You have the giac stg 2??... Hfc installed?
    What's the claimed hp and torque figures.. On 93 and e85
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperunion View Post
    You have the giac stg 2??... Hfc installed?
    What's the claimed hp and torque figures.. On 93 and e85
    Yes with an 034 HFC. I don't know the numbers yet, maybe GIAC will have something when they update their site. If I get a dyno done I will let you know. Pretty sure blbroo has this setup with a Spulen HFC and had a dyno done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s4baby View Post
    Yes with an 034 HFC. I don't know the numbers yet, maybe GIAC will have something when they update their site. If I get a dyno done I will let you know. Pretty sure blbroo has this setup with a Spulen HFC and had a dyno done.
    Awesome... I know we are waiting for stg 2 for b8.5 flex fuel vehicles....
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    What boost levels are people seeing with GIAC Stage 2 on a B8? I think we are rare on here but I thought I would ask.

    I recently replaced a bad PCV valve and now I'm seeing a 19 psi spike and 14-15 psi to redline. What boost levels does the APR stage 2 see?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDIMAN33 View Post
    Her car game is odd.Her cars aren't really special.Always has had Benz's, BMWs, Range Rovers, Volvos. She mostly drives the Benz.shes never really drove the Audi. I use the Benz for my volunteer work... She really doesn't drive much at all though....


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    Quote Originally Posted by s4baby View Post
    What boost levels are people seeing with GIAC Stage 2 on a B8? I think we are rare on here but I thought I would ask.

    I recently replaced a bad PCV valve and now I'm seeing a 19 psi spike and 14-15 psi to redline. What boost levels does the APR stage 2 see?

    Thanks
    Really depends on the weather for me. When it's 70 or below, I see 24psi as a high, but in the summer, it maxes at 22. It trails off as rpms go up because the stock turbo can't push enough air.

    I had some weak boost levels a few months ago, but kept digging for boost leaks and have all the power back now. Putting a K04 on this weekend and GIACs pump and race files next week. Cool note, GIAC give you full original purchase price as trade in on the K04 upgrade. So, if you spent $550 for your tune, that would be deducted from the upgrade cost.
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