Q5 TDi in for service - Q7 loaner...

[zcd2.7t]

Took our TDi in for its 15K service yesterday, got a '15 Q7 as a loaner. Random quick observations:

- 600 more lbs. of weight + 100 less ft. lbs. of torque = a MUCH less responsive vehicle. The 3.0T is an outstanding motor, but its (relative) lack of torque is glaring in comparison.
- smallish MMI screen looks lost in the bigger dash
- MMI configuration feels a generation older - more hard buttons and harder to use overall.
- Ride is nice enough, but not as "settled" as our Q5's
- It seems noisier overall - road noise, mostly, but the 3.0T also sounds off when revved, and you have to rev it to get the thing to go! The sounds it makes are good, just a bit noisier than would be ideal.
- Nice car, and I understand why it continued to sell well even just prior to being replaced, but I like our TDi better.

Also, they had a 2017 Q7 on the showroom floor, so I took a quick look. REALLY nice inside, looks better outside than it had seemed from the pics, but it's a conservative look that won't offend, but won't excite, either.

Stunner: Sticker price was $85K!!!! It was well-loaded, but $31K in options is insane, approaching Porsche levels of options insanity!

Good thing it also handily won the new comparison test in C&D against the X5, RRS and Volvo XC90...

[eastbayrae]

Everything is ala carte with the other German makes. That why I bought my SQ5. You can easily double the price of a Porsche when fully optioned. Granted they get a lot more options but still. I proved a boxster, before my SQ5, and it was $110k. That's 911 money.


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[JayCar]

The 2017 Q7 is leagues ahead of the previous generation. It'll practically drive itself. Loo

[Black3.2]

The 2017 Q7 is leagues ahead of the previous generation. It'll practically drive itself. Loo

I took one out the other day, it will be replacing the wifes A6 very soon

[zcd2.7t]

I took one out the other day, it will be replacing the wifes A6 very soon

I have no doubt that it drives as well as has been reported, nor that it's the best choice in its segment - I'm just a little surprised at the pricing. When we bought our Q5 TDi, Q7s weren't THAT much more expensive - perhaps $8-10K for what seemed like comparable levels of equipment. I guess the new model went up about $5K in base price, which is fairly significant, but the options list seems to have expanded exponentially....

I'm sure they'll still sell well, which I guess is Audi's point, after all!

[VroomVroom]

I've been a fan of the Q7 since day one, and briefly considered one back in '07. Comparing a 2015 Q5 to a 2016 Q7 isn't just a matter of size. The '7 was at least 1.5 generations behind in terms of technology. And only one cup holder. :) All that has changed for 2017 - this new gen is really impressive. In terms of price, my local store has two Q7's in stock with MSRP @ $59k. The number of bells and whistles is up to you, but at $85k, you're still less than a Cadillac Escalade or MB GL. It's hard to compare RR and BMW models against the Q7 solely on price, but I don't think the Q7 is above-market.