Intake & Audi Warranty?

[peekaBu]

So I have a CTS turbo installed on my B8. I'm heading to my dealer for a service and wondering if I should take it off. Has anyone ever received a TD1 with an intake?

I feel like this is something they could possibly do, under what reasoning I do not know.


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[Gkit19986]

Depends on the dealer, I go to palisades Audi and they are cool with my intake and exhaust.

[suprspinner]

Depends on the dealer, I go to palisades Audi and they are cool with my intake and exhaust.

Which intake do you have? That's where I go to and you just made me 5x more relaxed for when I go back in.


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[LordMagnet]

I called up my dealership and spoke to the service manager before I pulled the trigger on my intake & exhaust. He said he can't give me anything official in writing or make any promises, but also that he's never had any warranty issues with vehicles that have come in with aftermarket intakes and exhausts. He did say ECU tuning was a big no-no.

[DGVR6]

peekabu.. Talk to your SA before you go in.

[Gkit19986]

Not sure which intake I have, I think it's eurocode ?

My service adviser is Cory , he's prety cool. Also if you take care of him on the survey,it's more likely he remembers it.

[eurotic]

My SA said no to getting an intake but gave me the green light for a short shifter...sway bars were a grey area.

[jokingjimmy]

I called up my dealership and spoke to the service manager before I pulled the trigger on my intake & exhaust. He said he can't give me anything official in writing or make any promises, but also that he's never had any warranty issues with vehicles that have come in with aftermarket intakes and exhausts. He did say ECU tuning was a big no-no.

The question is simple. Ask your service manager (not the SA) if they will or will not manually flash you TD1 for an intake (exhaust too if that's a concern). All this above posted stuff is canned response.

[pdqgp]

My rule of thumb is if it's just routine Audi Service to take it to a reputable third part place. I only have ever taken any of my cars to the dealer for warranty related work. Otherwise the service they perform is really no better and often more pricey. Had no issues overall.

[The Fat Kid]

+1 on going to an indie shop for servicing not covered by Audi. I learned that lesson after my first $250 oil change on my B6.

Return your car to as close to stock as possible before bringing it to the dealer; swapping out an intake is a 20-min job. The tech can manually flag you without the SA knowing about it.

[chaos2984]

I called up my dealership and spoke to the service manager before I pulled the trigger on my intake & exhaust. He said he can't give me anything official in writing or make any promises, but also that he's never had any warranty issues with vehicles that have come in with aftermarket intakes and exhausts. He did say ECU tuning was a big no-no.

This, for sure. This is what I did. I talked to my Dealer Criswell, and they said they don't care about them. But if they can prove that part caused the failure then they won't warranty it. Like exhaust noise or damaged s/c rotor blades.

But honestly it takes like 20 min to swap the factory intake back on. I have intake and exhaust and every time I go to the dealer I put the factory air box back on. Its easy enough to not have to worry about it.

[theswoleguy]

My SA in Atlanta is ok with sway bars, AK, intake and exhaust. Told me to to always bring it in "stock" <wink> for other mods and to give him heads up via phone call first so that he can schedule me with certain techs.

[amz]

If your dealership is cool with mods then they should be ok with an intake. That being said, I always swap back to my stock intake just in case Audi asks them to send pictures. It takes 20 beer-minutes to swap intakes so it's not a big deal.

[SteveYem]

For whatever it's worth - I recently noticed an unusual, brief sound when starting my car after it sat for 4 days. It has a CTS Turbo intake installed. I looked under the hood and did not notice anything out of the ordinary (it was nighttime in a not-well-lit parking lot). I proceeded to drive the car home on mostly freeway where I would typically see ~25mpg displayed on the DIS. During this drive I was seeing ~20mpg. The next morning I had another freeway drive where I would typically see ~25mpg and again realized only ~20-21 mpg. When I arrived at my destination I opened the hood and found this:





That's the original intake filter that came with my CTS Turbo intake which I ordered in March 2015 and have used on the car for less than 10k miles. There are areas of the filter that have apparently deteriorated and are now missing. I'm bringing it up publicly only because I sent an email to CTS two days ago and they have not yet responded. To me, when an air intake manufacturer has a clear defect with one of their air filters, which is a major component of their system, responding to that issue should be top priority.

Anyway - the reason I bring this is up is that if you are going to leave your aftermarket intake installed when taking the car in for service, at least do a thorough inspection of it to make sure everything is intact and connected properly. I would understand Audi issuing a TD1 for a car with aftermarket intake having holes in the filter element.

EDIT - BTW, upon discovering the issue I promptly swapped the stock intake back into the car. Fuel efficiency appears to be back to normal. Supercharger whine is nonexistent.

[jsh139]

For whatever it's worth - I recently noticed an unusual, brief sound when starting my car after it sat for 4 days. It has a CTS Turbo intake installed. I looked under the hood and did not notice anything out of the ordinary (it was nighttime in a not-well-lit parking lot). I proceeded to drive the car home on mostly freeway where I would typically see ~25mpg displayed on the DIS. During this drive I was seeing ~20mpg. The next morning I had another freeway drive where I would typically see ~25mpg and again realized only ~20-21 mpg. When I arrived at my destination I opened the hood and found this:





That's the original intake filter that came with my CTS Turbo intake which I ordered in March 2015 and have used on the car for less than 10k miles. There are areas of the filter that have apparently deteriorated and are now missing. I'm bringing it up publicly only because I sent an email to CTS two days ago and they have not yet responded. To me, when an air intake manufacturer has a clear defect with one of their air filters, which is a major component of their system, responding to that issue should be top priority.

Anyway - the reason I bring this is up is that if you are going to leave your aftermarket intake installed when taking the car in for service, at least do a thorough inspection of it to make sure everything is intact and connected properly. I would understand Audi issuing a TD1 for a car with aftermarket intake having holes in the filter element.

EDIT - BTW, upon discovering the issue I promptly swapped the stock intake back into the car. Fuel efficiency appears to be back to normal. Supercharger whine is nonexistent.

That's a little scary. I can only assume that little pieces of intake media were sucked into your engine?

[brainpan]

For whatever it's worth - I recently noticed an unusual, brief sound when starting my car after it sat for 4 days. It has a CTS Turbo intake installed. I looked under the hood and did not notice anything out of the ordinary (it was nighttime in a not-well-lit parking lot). I proceeded to drive the car home on mostly freeway where I would typically see ~25mpg displayed on the DIS. During this drive I was seeing ~20mpg. The next morning I had another freeway drive where I would typically see ~25mpg and again realized only ~20-21 mpg. When I arrived at my destination I opened the hood and found this:





That's the original intake filter that came with my CTS Turbo intake which I ordered in March 2015 and have used on the car for less than 10k miles. There are areas of the filter that have apparently deteriorated and are now missing. I'm bringing it up publicly only because I sent an email to CTS two days ago and they have not yet responded. To me, when an air intake manufacturer has a clear defect with one of their air filters, which is a major component of their system, responding to that issue should be top priority.

Anyway - the reason I bring this is up is that if you are going to leave your aftermarket intake installed when taking the car in for service, at least do a thorough inspection of it to make sure everything is intact and connected properly. I would understand Audi issuing a TD1 for a car with aftermarket intake having holes in the filter element.

EDIT - BTW, upon discovering the issue I promptly swapped the stock intake back into the car. Fuel efficiency appears to be back to normal. Supercharger whine is nonexistent.

Yikes... I've had a cts intake for a little over a year now haven't noticed anything like this with the filter. Did you wash it with any sort of chemical? I have a spare filter but just washed the original one before winter. I'm definitely gonna check on it now seeing those pics.



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[SteveYem]

That's a little scary. I can only assume that little pieces of intake media were sucked into your engine?

Presumably so.

Yikes... I've had a cts intake for a little over a year now haven't noticed anything like this with the filter. Did you wash it with any sort of chemical? I have a spare filter but just washed the original one before winter. I'm definitely gonna check on it now seeing those pics.



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Nope, in fact I have not cleaned the filter at all. It has been installed on the car for only ~10 months / 9000 miles, so nowhere near a service interval.

[B18b1ex]

Presumably so.




Nope, in fact I have not cleaned the filter at all. It has been installed on the car for only ~10 months / 9000 miles, so nowhere near a service interval.

You should contact them, their customer service with me was top notch!

[ModdedEuros]

We looked into this and the guys over at CTS already are on it and said it was replaced under warranty

[bhvrdr]

Presumably so.




Nope, in fact I have not cleaned the filter at all. It has been installed on the car for only ~10 months / 9000 miles, so nowhere near a service interval.

Interesting. You may want to add to this post here Steve...

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...Is-this-common

I hope this isnt a widespread issue. Can other people check theirs and see if this is happening?

Mike

[cspcrx]

There was a document posted on here once before and it listed intakes and exhausts as TD1 items. But as others said its up to the dealer to put it in they system.

[SteveYem]

You should contact them, their customer service with me was top notch!

We looked into this and the guys over at CTS already are on it and said it was replaced under warranty

Correct, I heard from them shortly after posting this. In hindsight I regret having posted this since they are resolving the issue, but it still stands as a relevant point to this thread re: aftermarket intake vs. warranty.

[Motown_Dub]

To contribute a bit more to the thread hijack. Everyone with an aftermarket intake should check it periodically. I had the EuroCode intake and discovered the bolts that connected to the factory airbox had pulled through the plastic on the filter.

[jokingjimmy]

Correct, I heard from them shortly after posting this. In hindsight I regret having posted this since they are resolving the issue, but it still stands as a relevant point to this thread re: aftermarket intake vs. warranty.

Nope, I think what you did was just right. You didn't slam CTS, you just showed something that should be a concern for all of us that read this forum. It's the reason for the forum, (although some would argue it's for flame wars, ego boosts and selling product lol). The distributor and then yourself came back and said the issue was resolved by CTS, so it's a perfect story for in here. Now everyone will check their filters to ensure it's ok :D

To contribute a bit more to the thread hijack. Everyone with an aftermarket intake should check it periodically. I had the EuroCode intake and discovered the bolts that connected to the factory airbox had pulled through the plastic on the filter.

Yep, I do this often too. I always wonder if the oil will evaporate when I slack on checking it, then the dried out filter would deteriorate, so it gives me peace of mind to check it (once a month at the C&C LMAO).

[14S4GWM]

Correct, I heard from them shortly after posting this. In hindsight I regret having posted this since they are resolving the issue, but it still stands as a relevant point to this thread re: aftermarket intake vs. warranty.

So have they upgraded the filter at all or do you get the same crappy filter?

[DGVR6]

Personally .. I wouldn't name no SA's or dealerships on here.. You never know when AOA might poke around. That mod friendly dealership might become mod unfriendly.

Keep the info through PMs just in case.
If your going to a dealership in LI, PM me.

[SteveYem]

So have they upgraded the filter at all or do you get the same crappy filter?

I presume that the replacement filter will be the same type/quality as the original, but I do plan to buy a spare filter from someone like K&N or AFE (or anyone else that someone could highly recommend).

[B18b1ex]

From my understanding the B6 and B7 S4's had warranty issues with intakes because oil on MAF sensors, as these engine don't have these it is not a part that will void any part of your warranty.

[14S4GWM]

From my understanding the B6 and B7 S4's had warranty issues with intakes because oil on MAF sensors, as these engine don't have these it is not a part that will void any part of your warranty.

Wrong, they can manually flag you for it now.

[B18b1ex]

Wrong, they can manually flag you for it now.

If it's damaged, or just because it's present? Not sure that will hold up as you can't be required to use their filters and the housing is solely for noise control.

[14S4GWM]

If it's damaged, or just because it's present? Not sure that will hold up as you can't be required to use their filters and the housing is solely for noise control.

When the CAI is present at the dealer. Someone posted a dealer letter stating they can flag you for TD1.

[peekaBu]

can anyone help me find the DIY post on the B8 forum that showed step by step on how to install the CTS intake? I need to reverse install and put my stock intake back on for servicing.

[14S4GWM]

can anyone help me find the DIY post on the B8 forum that showed step by step on how to install the CTS intake? I need to reverse install and put my stock intake back on for servicing.

Really? Vid at the bottom or check out roc euro for manual, very similar.

http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/product...-3410-116.html

Edit

Did it for ya
http://roc-euro.com/downloadable/dow...5MDk5MTU1MTA3/

[peekaBu]

the video is out of focus and the technician installing it is blocking the view for half the video. but I will check out roc-euro manual. thank you.

[Gusman1]

the video is out of focus and the technician installing it is blocking the view for half the video. but I will check out roc-euro manual. thank you.

I just installed my cts intake last night. I used both the video and the roc euro guide. I found out that if you remove the scoop that feeds air into the intake, it's a lot easier to install the heat shield. Oh and it was bitch to remove the rear hose that connects to the intake tube.

[Works2shoot]

Oh and it was bitch to remove the rear hose that connects to the intake tube.

The easiest way I found to get the vacuum hose disconnected (without using a metal pick that could pierce the hose), was to take a wooden kebab skewer and roll the pointed end between the inside of the hose and the the vacuum nipple while pulling. That plus fully disconnecting everything from the stock breather tube allowed me to get some leverage while pulling.

[The Fat Kid]

I just installed my cts intake last night. I used both the video and the roc euro guide. I found out that if you remove the scoop that feeds air into the intake, it's a lot easier to install the heat shield. Oh and it was bitch to remove the rear hose that connects to the intake tube.

I had the same issue. Someone mentioned that it is much easier to remove when the car is still warm after driving.

[Gusman1]

The easiest way I found to get the vacuum hose disconnected (without using a metal pick that could pierce the hose), was to take a wooden kebab skewer and roll the pointed end between the inside of the hose and the the vacuum nipple while pulling. That plus fully disconnecting everything from the stock breather tube allowed me to get some leverage while pulling.

I used something similar that I found laying in the garage. But I did notice that when I inserted the hose to the extension piece coupler the hose wasn't as tight, so I put a zip tie to make sure it didn't go anywhere.

I had the same issue. Someone mentioned that it is much easier to remove when the car is still warm after driving.

Yeah this would of probably made it easier.

[shoe3k]

So I have a CTS turbo installed on my B8. I'm heading to my dealer for a service and wondering if I should take it off. Has anyone ever received a TD1 with an intake?

I feel like this is something they could possibly do, under what reasoning I do not know.


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Never take someone's word when it comes to YOUR vehicle and its warranty. A manager or technician will tell you what you want to hear and if it isn't in writing then it is still a huge gamble. Sure, there are managers and technicians that do not care about intakes, exhausts, or suspension mods but the same people won't always be working on your car. If you are really worried about the the manual TD1 flag just put the stock intake back on or take it to an independent shop for service.




http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/83...-this-morning/


According to this, if a technician asks about what modifications have been installed on the car there is a good chance that the Audi database has already flagged your car with a TD1.

[KAMP]

Bringing an old threadback to life... I have a 2016 stock S4 with remaining warranty until July 2019. I’m planning on putting in the CTS intake as well. I would only be seeing the dealer if any warranty work needed to be done, so I guess I’d put the stock intake back on just in case.

Otherwise, once the warranty is up in July, would the Audicare also be affected with just an intake if I brought it in? I have two services left and I plan to take it in at the end of this year and next year for the remainder services.