AEB 254267 My build thread

**Rodgman15** · 02-01-2016 09:21 AM

Hey everyone, i'm starting up a build thread to help myself keep track of what the f^%k i'm doing. First post may be alone for a while, but i'll update in the days to come. Lots of pictures to follow!

Here's a link to all the pics (so far) in one album if you care to look. https://goo.gl/photos/wMH7buQYtioUHp9H8

Still waiting on fueling and ECU parts, this engine will get the stock turbo setup for a few weeks to break it in until I get my Maestro and injectors.

**Rodgman15** · 02-01-2016 09:23 AM

Here's the new heart and transplant in progress.

Started out as an engine with a failed OEM hydraulic tensioner, it needed A LOT of work, and A LOT of money. Went this route because I got the long block for $50, knowing it was going to need a pile of money to get going again.

*Stock displacement on this engine, (dirty one hanging from the picker will probably end up a stroker), stock pistons until they melt down.

*Eagle forged rods, Glyco and Kolbenschmidt bearings, Grant rings.

*Head has IE bronze valve guides, Rosten Performance springs, stock keepers and retainers, stainless Supertech exhaust valves with stock intake valves, new OEM CCT.

Opted for a manual timing belt tensioner, eliminating any timing weaknesses these engines have. Another thing to keep an eye on, but that's alright by me.

Went in to O'reillys and asked for the "gayest" paint they had to piss off the JDM horde here in Fargo, they gave me "Plum Crazy" lol Mopar guys are gonna want to kill me. Followed that up with some Mirage blue/purple to give it a bit of chameleon effect.

Got a fresh 2.8 tranny to throw in as well to help with the big turbo.

Still need FMIC (treadstone tr18t is what i'm eyeballing), fuel pump, AFPR, and injectors, as well as Maestro. Tried making a harness from scratch to support an AEM EMS 4, but that got to be too much of a headache, and too close to build completion, so I folded and am going the Maestro route.

More to follow!

**Bordom** · 02-01-2016 09:32 AM

I like how your head reads "666" lol

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**Rodgman15** · 02-01-2016 10:00 AM

She's gonna be evil :) lol

We stamp everything we work on because we're assholes. This poor bastard doesn't even know!

**Avant Nate** · 02-01-2016 11:59 AM

Where's the details?

**Rodgman15** · 02-01-2016 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Avant Nate

Where's the details?

Lol i'm at work right now, just started the thread so i'll be updating as I go. I'll make sure to get more details on everything tonight/tomorrow morning! Added a few details to second post.

Here's a little something to hold you over.

Water/oil cooled HX35 with race cover and .63 AR exhaust housing.

**redline380** · 02-01-2016 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Rodgman15

Went in to O'reillys and asked for the "gayest" paint they had

Trying to say something?

**Rodgman15** · 02-01-2016 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by redline380

Trying to say something?

LOL no the Kermit green was on my old motor. Plum Crazy is the "gayest" thing according to the dolts at O'reilly's. I debated going Kermit green on this motor, but you've already spoken for that color! Respect!

**Rodgman15** · 02-02-2016 06:57 AM

Bolted a few more parts on last night, nothing special yet. Waiting on South Bend to get me a new friction disc for my clutch setup, until then just cleaning and painting parts.

**MarcRogers** · 02-02-2016 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Rodgman15

Bolted a few more parts on last night, nothing special yet. Waiting on South Bend to get me a new friction disc for my clutch setup, until then just cleaning and painting parts.

Mmmm that color

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**Believer** · 02-02-2016 09:24 AM

What is the port facing the intake side on the valve cover? I have never seen that before.

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**MarcRogers** · 02-02-2016 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Believer

What is the port facing the intake side on the valve cover? I have never seen that before.

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I'm wondering the same thing

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**redline380** · 02-02-2016 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by MarcRogers

I'm wondering the same thing

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Willing to bet it is an added port to relieve pressure and gasses.

**Believer** · 02-02-2016 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by MarcRogers

I'm wondering the same thing

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I am assuming that it is another vent port. Perhaps this is a transverse valve cover

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**MarcRogers** · 02-02-2016 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Believer

I am assuming that it is another vent port. Perhaps this is a transverse valve cover

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I've seen similar ports on other cars and they have been uses for catch can applications. But looking at that one I'll tell you what whoever welded that on there if it was did a good ass job.

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**Rodgman15** · 02-02-2016 09:48 AM

No idea what the valve cover is specific to, was on the engine when I got it. It's threaded in, not welded, but we do all our own TIG welding in the shop. Just an extra ventilation line for a catch can setup. Doubt it's necessary, but stainless line looks awesome lol.

**Believer** · 02-02-2016 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Rodgman15

No idea what the valve cover is specific to, was on the engine when I got it. It's threaded in, not welded, but we do all our own TIG welding in the shop. Just an extra ventilation line for a catch can setup. Doubt it's necessary, but stainless line looks awesome lol.

The vent facing the intake side is threaded in? The one on the back looks threaded in and the one facing the intake side looks like it was either welded on or even part of the cast

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**Rodgman15** · 02-02-2016 09:56 AM

Oh yes oh yes, the an fitting on the back is threaded in, the one facing outward on the intake side is part of the cast.

**MarcRogers** · 02-02-2016 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Rodgman15

Oh yes oh yes, the an fitting on the back is threaded in, the one facing outward on the intake side is part of the cast.

I knew it had something to do with some type of CC setup. And yes the SS braided lines look so good. The cover has to be from a different motor code for a 1.8 I feel like I have seen it before I just can't but my mind to it.

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**Rodgman15** · 02-02-2016 10:08 AM

I think I've only seen then on transverse engines, not sure though, maybe VW and Audi had different covers being this engine was in a Passat. Clearly different than my old one.

**redline380** · 02-02-2016 10:10 AM

Its an ATW cover with added ports.

**MarcRogers** · 02-02-2016 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Rodgman15

I think I've only seen then on transverse engines, not sure though, maybe VW and Audi had different covers being this engine was in a Passat. Clearly different than my old one.

Could be it will come across someday and I'll remember what it's from

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**Rodgman15** · 02-07-2016 06:23 PM

New South Bend disc finally showed up. Went with a drag disc as opposed to an endurance disc this time around.

Dropping my flywheel off tomorrow to get resurfaced.

Nothing horrible, but not messing around with a new disc.

Hopefully tomorrow night I can get the new engine bolted to the 2.8 trans, possibly tucked back into the engine bay.

We'll see how ambitious I am. I was able to get the old engine & trans setup out in right around 3.5 hours, so I'm hoping it's even easier going back in.

**Rodgman15** · 02-10-2016 11:24 AM

Throwing everything back into the engine bay tonight after a few small parts hang-ups.

Question to the gurus about fuel injectors. I ordered Maestro this morning, setting up for my Holset HX35 to run on E85. I'm guessing i'll need somewhere in the 1000cc-1200cc injector size, and i'm pretty sure they're high impedance, 60mm from o-ring to o-ring (large port AEB). So with that being said the question is this, WTF kind of connector do I need to order???

**redline380** · 02-10-2016 11:30 AM

EV1 connections if using the stock harness

**Rodgman15** · 02-10-2016 11:36 AM

EXCELLENT! Thanks duder. So basically a "conversion" connector is needed if not using an EV1 connector. Perfect!

**redline380** · 02-10-2016 11:41 AM

Nope

**Rodgman15** · 02-10-2016 11:42 AM

ooooook sooooo, the stock harness ev1 connector will also work on an ev6 is that what you're saying? confused now (which doesn't take much).

**redline380** · 02-10-2016 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Rodgman15

ooooook sooooo, the stock harness ev1 connector will also work on an ev6 is that what you're saying?

No, I showed the picture so you can see the difference.

**Rodgman15** · 02-10-2016 11:51 AM

now THAT makes sense lol. thanks for your help (again).

**chris164935** · 02-10-2016 12:11 PM

I think the Genesis II injectors (www.usrallyteam.com) are the only ones that have the right connector to be plug-n-play with the stock harness. Almost everything else will be an USCAR plug (EV6, EV14). Easy enough to repin the stock harness or just buy a plug adapter kit.

**Rodgman15** · 02-10-2016 12:26 PM

Right, from what i've seen it looks like i'll be needing to go with a connector other than EV1 and just wiring them into the stock harness. Thanks for the info!

**Rodgman15** · 02-10-2016 01:53 PM

Next question for all the pros:

Need a BIG maf for my BT setup with Maestro. I'm assuming any 4.2l V8 MAF would work, or is there a specific one I should be looking for? Not at all worried about having to rewire anything.

Also, is a TR18T going to be big enough do you think for an AEB with an HX35 on E85? Says it's good up to 480hp, but i'm looking for 400AWHP (nitrous will get me there if I need it, but i'm getting 400 at the wheels). Suppose they're rating it for CHP or WHP?

Third question, anyone used a WOTBox on an AEB engine? Looking to have on hand to be used at the drag track, going to be racing it this summer for shi^$ and giggles. Want to make sure it's fully compatible.

**redline380** · 02-10-2016 03:58 PM

Not sure about Maestro on AEB, but for AWM all you do is click a box for launch control.

HX35 and E85 should net over 400awhp.

TR18T is too small. I have a TR11

**Avant Nate** · 02-10-2016 08:45 PM

IMO, I think with e85 and Fargo, it'll probably be ok. What do you have for a front bumper?

**Rodgman15** · 02-10-2016 10:03 PM

I'll look into launch control on maestro for aeb, but I'm pretty sure it's not capable, maybe I'm wrong. Fingers crossed.

I know e85 runs waaaaaay cooler, my roomies 3KGT burns e98 and you could use his intake manifold to cool a drink after some mean pulls. My front bumper is still stock form, but idgaf what it ends up looking like as long as I have an intercooler up to the task. Not too many really hot days annually, but that's a big turbo lol.

**A1 A2 German** · 02-10-2016 11:18 PM

Jimmes Rustled

You take the time to clean everything up, just to throw that in there, it's an eye sore. Sandblast it and slap on some professional grade paint, even if oem silver (or semi-gloss black). If you don't have a gravity gun you can but professional grade spray paint at any real automotive paint store for ~$20.

That vs this: http://s2.photobucket.com/user/budga...p/037.jpg.html

Originally Posted by Rodgman15

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**Rodgman15** · 02-11-2016 06:48 AM

We've got several HVLP primer and spray guns with tips of all sizes, but honestly it really doesn't bother me.

What really bothers me is putting this leaky old turbo on the engine because I don't have all my big turbo parts yet.

The body of this car is absolutely disgusting too, peeling clear coat, paint chipped in areas and such. But the way I look at it, not enough horsepower to give a shit about looks yet, function before form, I'll repaint the entire body this spring. I'll throw a few coats of aluminum engine enamel on the trans to clean it up a bit.

Looks mean nothing, hell look at my drag car

lol

Ugly right?