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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Brake Bias and Brake Pad Choice

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    Front to rear brake bias is important not only from a control and dynamics perspective, but it impacts stopping distance as well. Most track cars still retain a slight frontward bias for control reasons under braking.

    Brake bias is largely determined by your bbk piston sizing or other hydrolic components.

    Many argue you don't need full track pads in the rear, due to the lower heat strain. I've had this discussion on the forums before, and many argue it has a very minute impact. This is just wrong. I've long held that you need high friction rear pads in order to balance out or at least maintain the brake bias on our cars.

    Proof: I just swapped the right front for some typical performance street pads. the left front retained CarboXP12's. immediately I could feel the pulll to the left. I bedded the pads in, let the car cool, and gave it another go thinking this might explain it. Went back out, and the pulling sensation to the left was just as bad. So bad, that I could fully lock up the front left before the front right even began to chirp.

    So next time you go out to the track, think twice about those hyrbrid pads in the rear being adequate -- heat isn't the only concern here.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings zillarob's Avatar
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    Those xp12s should be on your miata, I think our manpigcars like 20's
    There are only 2 things needed to make an Audi work properly - Duct tape and WD40. If it moves and it shouldn't - Duct tape. If it doesn’t move and it should - WD40.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    this is the miata =D

    got the xp20s or whatever their replacement for the 16s is on the front of the b5.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings zillarob's Avatar
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    Ha, I wondered!
    We used to run 10's up front and 7s or 8s in the rear for balance in SM back in 06.

    There are only 2 things needed to make an Audi work properly - Duct tape and WD40. If it moves and it shouldn't - Duct tape. If it doesn’t move and it should - WD40.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    stg 3 widebody, 1990 miata, '05 gsxr 1000
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    Palo Alto, CA

    yeah that's still the deal, running 12's up front 10s in rear -- most of the track/time attack miatas are still using something in that ballpark.

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