Audizine - An Automotive Enthusiast Community

Results 1 to 24 of 24
  1. #1
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Strange issue, need help

    Guest-only advertisement. Register or Log In now!
    The other night I did a simple oil change and spark plug change. The next day on my way to work the car died on the highway(70mph). I would give it gas but it just slowly revved down and died. I would try to crank it but it wouldnt start(not getting gas it seemed).When i got towed home i checked the plugs and they were all very white. I then turned the key in accessory and did not hear the pump. I then pulled the pump and tested it and it turned on. So then after i put the pump back in and all the cars electronics are bugging like it not getting any power. The positive cable doesnt look good but i tried cleaning it and the car still wont light up correctly(dash electronics). Things ive done: 1. Swapped battery
    2. Swapped ecu
    3. Checked fuel pump
    4.Checked fuses

    The main fuse off the positive cable is still intact but the postive cable connector is not pretty. Would this cause the fuel pump not to get power and then mess power for everything else? When i put a multimeter on the battery connected the voltage is all over the place. The stock positive cable is $364 from ecs and i just want to make sure before i spend that kind of money on the oem cable. TIA!

    -Ron
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  2. #2
    Veteran Member Four Rings customa4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 07 2011
    AZ Member #
    73592
    My Garage
    02 A4 1.8T CVT, 02 A4 1.8TQ 5spd, 92 Geo Prizm
    Location
    CT

    Quote Originally Posted by GTRchop88 View Post
    The other night I did a simple oil change and spark plug change. The next day on my way to work the car died on the highway(70mph). I would give it gas but it just slowly revved down and died. I would try to crank it but it wouldnt start(not getting gas it seemed).When i got towed home i checked the plugs and they were all very white. I then turned the key in accessory and did not hear the pump. I then pulled the pump and tested it and it turned on. So then after i put the pump back in and all the cars electronics are bugging like it not getting any power. The positive cable doesnt look good but i tried cleaning it and the car still wont light up correctly(dash electronics). Things ive done: 1. Swapped battery
    2. Swapped ecu
    3. Checked fuel pump
    4.Checked fuses

    The main fuse off the positive cable is still intact but the postive cable connector is not pretty. Would this cause the fuel pump not to get power and then mess power for everything else? When i put a multimeter on the battery connected the voltage is all over the place. The stock positive cable is $364 from ecs and i just want to make sure before i spend that kind of money on the oem cable. TIA!

    -Ron
    I'm not sure what the problem is with your car but I bought a used battery cable from ebay for I think $45 and it's in perfect shape.
    K&N-Milltek HFC-Magnaflow Catback-APR snub mount-ER Sport FMIC-Forge TIP-Forge DV-Podi-034 Motor Mounts-034 Rear Sway/End Links-STaSIS Street Sport Coils-Bentley Manual

  3. #3
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Quote Originally Posted by customa4 View Post
    I'm not sure what the problem is with your car but I bought a used battery cable from ebay for I think $45 and it's in perfect shape.
    I will be checking ebay later. Its strange that it did not appear electrical at first(looked like a dead fuel pump) and then everything is bugging out like its not getting power.
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  4. #4
    Veteran Member Four Rings customa4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 07 2011
    AZ Member #
    73592
    My Garage
    02 A4 1.8T CVT, 02 A4 1.8TQ 5spd, 92 Geo Prizm
    Location
    CT

    Here's one for $20. Seller is in New York so you should be able to get it pretty quickly too. Click It says "B7" but I can verify that's the exact cable I just swapped on mine.

    K&N-Milltek HFC-Magnaflow Catback-APR snub mount-ER Sport FMIC-Forge TIP-Forge DV-Podi-034 Motor Mounts-034 Rear Sway/End Links-STaSIS Street Sport Coils-Bentley Manual

  5. #5
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    just bought it, thanks for the heads up!
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  6. #6
    Veteran Member Four Rings imnuts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 12 2009
    AZ Member #
    46297
    My Garage
    '21 F-150 Powerboost Lariat & '14 Acura RDX
    Location
    Dirty Jerz

    What do the ground cables look like?

  7. #7
    Veteran Member Four Rings SJorge3442's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 27 2013
    AZ Member #
    121842
    Location
    Philly

    Quote Originally Posted by imnuts View Post
    What do the ground cables look like?
    2017 A4 6 Speed - Sport Plus - Mythos Black
    2018 Q5 - Prestige - Manhattan Grey

  8. #8
    Veteran Member Four Rings imnuts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 12 2009
    AZ Member #
    46297
    My Garage
    '21 F-150 Powerboost Lariat & '14 Acura RDX
    Location
    Dirty Jerz

    I was going more for what do they look like on his car, are they corroded, loose, etc. or do they look ok?

  9. #9
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Quote Originally Posted by imnuts View Post
    I was going more for what do they look like on his car, are they corroded, loose, etc. or do they look ok?
    Ground looks very clean. Also secure.
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  10. #10
    Veteran Member Three Rings tHatOne guY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 20 2012
    AZ Member #
    99020
    My Garage
    06' Yamaha R1...Raven
    Location
    Mesa, Az

    Very common issue with these cars it seems. When my cable died it was very hot to the touch and had a voltage drop of 1.0 to 1.8 volts. I picked up a used cable from Wolf auto on Ebay and it too died, that was my second cable.

    I am going to build one and post it up for guys to do their own, since at some point Ebay will run out of second hand parts and 300$+ is a crazy amount of money for something that I think will fail again eventually.

    Anyone know if there is a build thread or DIY of how to put one of these cables together? I searched didn't see one.

  11. #11
    Veteran Member Four Rings SJorge3442's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 27 2013
    AZ Member #
    121842
    Location
    Philly

    Quote Originally Posted by imnuts View Post
    I was going more for what do they look like on his car, are they corroded, loose, etc. or do they look ok?
    Haha, my bad. I was gonna say, its pretty easy to google search that.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
    2017 A4 6 Speed - Sport Plus - Mythos Black
    2018 Q5 - Prestige - Manhattan Grey

  12. #12
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    At least the car ran fine in the snowstorm.https://vid.me/23rE
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  13. #13
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Replacing the positive cable did not help. Car still appears to be not getting power. When i turned the key everything flickered for a second and when i checked the battery the voltage dropped to 7 around volts. Any idea what else i should do before admitting defeat and taking it to a garage?
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  14. #14
    Veteran Member Three Rings tHatOne guY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 20 2012
    AZ Member #
    99020
    My Garage
    06' Yamaha R1...Raven
    Location
    Mesa, Az

    Quote Originally Posted by GTRchop88 View Post
    Replacing the positive cable did not help. Car still appears to be not getting power. When i turned the key everything flickered for a second and when i checked the battery the voltage dropped to 7 around volts. Any idea what else i should do before admitting defeat and taking it to a garage?
    What was the voltage at the battery posts with the engine off? Was it 7V?

    Sounds like a discharged battery.

  15. #15
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Quote Originally Posted by tHatOne guY View Post
    What was the voltage at the battery posts with the engine off? Was it 7V?

    Sounds like a discharged battery.
    If i unhook the ground the battery voltage climbs back to 12.5volts. If i connect the battery the voltage drops like something is draining it. It did the same thing with another battery i had in the garage.
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  16. #16
    Veteran Member Three Rings tHatOne guY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 20 2012
    AZ Member #
    99020
    My Garage
    06' Yamaha R1...Raven
    Location
    Mesa, Az

    Quote Originally Posted by GTRchop88 View Post
    If i unhook the ground the battery voltage climbs back to 12.5volts. If i connect the battery the voltage drops like something is draining it. It did the same thing with another battery i had in the garage.
    I see. Probably best to start looking for any obvious loads, map reading lights on, glove box light, vanity mirror lights, relays under the hood and dash, etc.

    That doesn't pan out then start pulling fuses one by one to isolate the circuit causing the drain.

  17. #17
    Established Member Two Rings truea4b6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 27 2015
    AZ Member #
    351942
    Location
    md

    I'm a not pro but it happened same with my caddi srx, simply just replace the battery ! Hope this could help !
    03 b6 3.0 cabriolet all stock ( soon to be a beast )

  18. #18
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Quote Originally Posted by truea4b6 View Post
    I'm a not pro but it happened same with my caddi srx, simply just replace the battery ! Hope this could help !
    You are right. Both of my batteries were bad. Got a new one today and all the electrical appears fine. I still can not start the car because I am not getting fuel. But at least it has power.
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  19. #19
    Veteran Member Four Rings customa4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 07 2011
    AZ Member #
    73592
    My Garage
    02 A4 1.8T CVT, 02 A4 1.8TQ 5spd, 92 Geo Prizm
    Location
    CT

    I guess that's one step in the right direction.
    K&N-Milltek HFC-Magnaflow Catback-APR snub mount-ER Sport FMIC-Forge TIP-Forge DV-Podi-034 Motor Mounts-034 Rear Sway/End Links-STaSIS Street Sport Coils-Bentley Manual

  20. #20
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Primed the car and i thought i heard fuel pump turn on. I went and pulled the fuel filter out and there was fuel in there. It was very hard to blow through the filter so i ordered a new one. Can a clogged fuel filter really be my issue? Only has about 45k miles on it.
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  21. #21
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Also, my cars return line has slight kink to it due to a mechanic's error on lifiting the car up on a jack. Im wondering what the effects of this kinked return fuel line would have on the FPR on the rail( I am using return setup with B5 fuel rail).
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  22. #22
    Veteran Member Three Rings Let it snow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 24 2014
    AZ Member #
    277415
    My Garage
    02 1.8TQ Sport 5 speed, 05 1.8TQ 6 speed
    Location
    Vermont

    In the beginning of the the thread you said you pulled the fuel pump and tested it. Does this mean not submerged in any fuel? Perhaps the pump turned on because it had no load (fuel) to pressurize. Also it is not good to run them dry if this is the case. Anyways with the rear seat cushion pulled you should easily hear the pump prime with key turned. Confirm the pump is running and go from there.

  23. #23
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    Quote Originally Posted by Let it snow View Post
    In the beginning of the the thread you said you pulled the fuel pump and tested it. Does this mean not submerged in any fuel? Perhaps the pump turned on because it had no load (fuel) to pressurize. Also it is not good to run them dry if this is the case. Anyways with the rear seat cushion pulled you should easily hear the pump prime with key turned. Confirm the pump is running and go from there.
    Yeah I pulled the pump and tested it very quickly not submerged and it turned on. I then put it back in and primed it (I think I heard it turn on). To check if it pressurized I pulled the fuel filter and there was gas in there. I then tried blowing through the filter and it was very difficult to do so. No grime or anything like that, just difficult to blow through. I am currently waiting on a new fuel filter to be delivered to put that in and see if it has anything to do with blocking the rail from getting pressure( I am return style now with a B5 rail, no valve on the rail to check pressure).
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

  24. #24
    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 22 2004
    AZ Member #
    3228
    Location
    CT

    My car's head is most likely toast. 11 years and 205k miles. I think it might be time for a change, Maybe an avant Having a huge part out for anyone who is interested.http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...4-USP-part-out
    USP CLUB MEMBER #7
    Previous Audis:Big Turbo 2005 Black Audi A4 USP 6-speed sedan/2008 Blue Audi A4 6 speed sedan/2004 OEM+ Arctic White Audi A4 Avant/2001 Red Audi TT 225Q.
    Current: 2004 BMP Vw R32

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


    © 2001-2024 Audizine, Audizine.com, and Driverzines.com
    Audizine is an independently owned and operated automotive enthusiast community and news website.
    Audi and the Audi logo(s) are copyright/trademark Audi AG. Audizine is not endorsed by or affiliated with Audi AG.