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    Fellow Audi enthusiasts, everyone knows we're about to get walloped with a blizzard starting sometime tomorrow, so hopefully everyone will do the smart thing and stay off the roads until they are clear. But even before that, I wanted to pass on a couple of observations from last night. When I left work (Federal Center, Suitland) last night, there was a light dusting of snow coming down. But due to the freezing temperatures, it made the driving conditions very treacherous. Lots of people we're driving REALLY slow, and there were accidents all on my way home. I saw a few high horsepower, RWD cars, that barely crawled along, some with their four-way flashers on. And even me with my AWD S4, with snow tires, I noticed my ABS kick in a couple of times, as well as the wheels breaking loose a bit under some acceleration. So what I'm saying is what probably just about all of you know: just because you have AWD, even with snow tires, doesn't make you invincible on wintry roads. Be careful and get home in one piece to your families.
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    seriously though if you saw the waze map it was almost comical.

    On a less funny note, Montgomery Co. reported a 911 call per minute for several hours last night.
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    like I said in the other thread, it was CRAZY slick. Like, shockingly so. I started down a hill near my parents house, and simply letting off the gas (not even abruptly) was enough to break the tires loose and begin a slide. On blizzaks. The whole way home was like driving on ice, the traction light was constantly flashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csullivan View Post
    like I said in the other thread, it was CRAZY slick. Like, shockingly so. I started down a hill near my parents house, and simply letting off the gas (not even abruptly) was enough to break the tires loose and begin a slide. On blizzaks. The whole way home was like driving on ice, the traction light was constantly flashing.
    errrhhhmaggerrrddddd das 1/4" hazt trumpt mien audiiii. learn to drive, noob. or just abandon your AWD car on the side of the highway like the other fuckwads out on the roads today.

    Herndon was bone dry this morning.

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    I can drive just fine. just noting how unusually slippery it was given the conditions.

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    better get jumanji out there. at least he edited fucking retard to noob. lol.

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    I don't think most parts of NOVA got anything, it was pretty dry when I got to Chantilly this morning.
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    I think I would trust chad more then others to be on the road in those conditions :)
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    My work is doing 24/7 testing (since October) and so all week have been making plans on who is covering which shift, whether they are sheltering in place or live/staying close enough to travel, whether we have enough food/TP to survive, showering, etc. It's pretty hectic for a few folks.

    While I'm close enough to attempt a trek if required, I'm really hoping to drink myself stupid this weekend, for the first time in ages!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtD1ver View Post
    I don't think most parts of NOVA got anything, it was pretty dry when I got to Chantilly this morning.
    We had about an inch of snow as well. I lost traction too. Went over a speed bump and scraped my bellllly...

    Granted, I am still on summers :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by i1overice View Post
    We had about an inch of snow as well. I lost traction too. Went over a speed bump and scraped my bellllly...

    Granted, I am still on summers :)
    But if you're a pro driver you can totally drive in snow on summerz bruh. Mad epic.
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    Looked terrible last night....really curious to see what happens tomorrow evening depending on when this storm hits!
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    Spent the last couple days getting all of our plow trucks and machines ready for the incoming weather this weekend. Two machines not pictured since they're already on client sites. Gonna be an interesting storm for me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepper SQ5 View Post
    Spent the last couple days getting all of our plow trucks and machines ready for the incoming weather this weekend. Two machines not pictured since they're already on client sites. Gonna be an interesting storm for me.


    Very nice!

    Do you rent out those machines at all? I could use one later this year for some work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumnjuny View Post
    errrhhhmaggerrrddddd das 1/4" hazt trumpt mien audiiii. learn to drive, noob. or just abandon your AWD car on the side of the highway like the other fuckwads out on the roads today.

    Herndon was bone dry this morning.
    How do you know that anyone who experiences a vehicle's tires breaking loose on slick, icy roads is due to them being new to Winter driving conditions? The fact is, there are NO expert drivers out there, just those (you?) who think they are, and they become a liability to everyone else. The idiot who goes barreling down the road in their huge pickup truck or SUV, telling themselves because they lived in ______ (fill in with northern state of choice), they are better than everyone else, is often the one you see in a ditch or the cause of an accident. I've been driving for over 40 years, and of that, having lived in areas that get significant amounts of snowfall. Just because I've driven in snowy, icy roads quite a bit doesn't make me an expert. It just makes me a bit more aware of my own limitations, my vehicle's, and to watch out for the other guy, ESPECIALLY watch out for the other guy.
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    Haha well. Firstly, I have only proposed that driving extra slow and carefully will get you safely to your destination in snow on summer tires just as well as it will on winter tires, partially due to the wetness of the snow. Definitely said nothing about speeding to your destination in adverse conditions.

    Secondly, I would like to see some factual data to back up the correlation between idiots barreling down the road, putting themselves in a ditch and people who lived in "northern states"

    Thirdly I did not mean noob literally, as if to imply Chad is a "newbie" at driving in winter conditions lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBones View Post
    Very nice!

    Do you rent out those machines at all? I could use one later this year for some work.
    We don't rent any equipment... Insurance liability. I deal with a shop that does and I can get you a little better rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepper SQ5 View Post
    We don't rent any equipment... Insurance liability. I deal with a shop that does and I can get you a little better rate.
    Ok, that is why I asked. Thanks, I might bug you later this year for that other shop's information.

    On a different topic, got to go to work in Maryland while it is snowing. Hopefully the roads aren't too bad round trip.

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    Stay off the roads? This is quattro season, I've been waiting all damn summer for this!

    Now, I do try to give everyone else a chance to get home before I go out hooning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumnjuny View Post
    Haha well. Firstly, I have only proposed that driving extra slow and carefully will get you safely to your destination in snow on summer tires just as well as it will on winter tires, partially due to the wetness of the snow. Definitely said nothing about speeding to your destination in adverse conditions.

    Secondly, I would like to see some factual data to back up the correlation between idiots barreling down the road, putting themselves in a ditch and people who lived in "northern states"

    Thirdly I did not mean noob literally, as if to imply Chad is a "newbie" at driving in winter conditions lmao
    In looking at your post (as well as previous ones), you have a tendency to be offensive to people on this board, whether you know it or not. Secondly, it doesn't help when you use vulgarity (f*ckwads) directed at others. As for factual data to support my comment that people who drive aggressively during inclement weather, just because they come from states with winter driving conditions every year, I'm not sure I can provide an objective chart or report, if that's what you're looking for. My point was to state that people can be overconfident to the point of making themselves a danger on the road and to others. The point is, when road conditions become at the very least a challenge for most competent drivers, the smart thing to do is to be careful, and not be that jerk who drives too fast, cuts in front of people and not give them room/time to stop properly, etc. In the end, my post was to be helpful by giving a reminder to my fellow S4 drivers, that just because we have AWD and snow tires, doesn't mean it's driving as usual. Use common sense and be safe.
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    i drove to work today...it wasnt that bad....my back hurts from all the shoveling though! i got 48 inches of snow in our development...insane
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    Sure summer tires work great in snow, until you have to go up a hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselElectric View Post
    Sure summer tires work great in snow, until you have to go up a hill.
    Or stop. Or turn.

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    Or stop. Or turn.
    or power through a driveway...
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    All this great advice on when summer tires suck in the snow... show of hands who has actually driven in the snow on summer tires... would like to know.

    i said was you can make it just fine if you drive slowly in an area like this one which gets 2-3 snowfalls a year lol. of course having 40" of snow is an irregularity where snow tires might help but most likely won't because clearance becomes an issue way before tires. just ask my buddy with the raptor who made it about 4 ft from his driveway before getting completely stuck lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by GT-R & S4 View Post
    In looking at your post (as well as previous ones), you have a tendency to be offensive to people on this board, whether you know it or not. Secondly, it doesn't help when you use vulgarity (f*ckwads) directed at others. As for factual data to support my comment that people who drive aggressively during inclement weather, just because they come from states with winter driving conditions every year, I'm not sure I can provide an objective chart or report, if that's what you're looking for. My point was to state that people can be overconfident to the point of making themselves a danger on the road and to others. The point is, when road conditions become at the very least a challenge for most competent drivers, the smart thing to do is to be careful, and not be that jerk who drives too fast, cuts in front of people and not give them room/time to stop properly, etc. In the end, my post was to be helpful by giving a reminder to my fellow S4 drivers, that just because we have AWD and snow tires, doesn't mean it's driving as usual. Use common sense and be safe.
    when my tendency to be offensive comes out, it's because i want to be offensive. my offensiveness was a cross discussion with fuckwad from the chat thread, i don't blame you for taking it out of context because it was, indeed, out of context.

    if your post was a general tip for fellow S4 drivers then why did you quote me? I misconstrued it as a response to my post. And yes, i was indeed asking for factual backup for what you said, which i found to be a ridiculously unfound allegation. Am i claiming you are wrong? No because i don't think i've ever collected data from people i pass stuck in ditches, hanging out the window like "HEY WHAT STATES HAVE YOU LIVED IN, HOW CONFIDENTLY DO YOU DRIVE IN THE SNOW AND HOW FAST WERE YOU GOINNNNNGGG" as i fly past them at 100mph in 2ft of snow on summer tires. cmon now!

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    I have. I drove my B5 S4 in the snow on summer tires. It sucked. I could accelerate but stopping distances sucked and to turn I basically had to drift and power through get my car to go where I wanted it to. I stove my TDI in the snow with snow tires on and it was world's better than the S4 was on summer tires.

    Just admit it dude, you're wrong. Summer tires are not meant for driving in ANY weather below 40*F. They become hard as a rock and slide all over the place. Yes it may be possible to get around with them, but it doesn't make it safe or wise to do it.

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    I did. In my STI. It was delivered to the dealer December 23, picked it up December 24th, and it was snowing when I did. Drove it home on the summers. It sucked. Roads were snowpack, the road crown was enough to cause a sideways sliding while stopped.

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    Me too, I would bet that every person who buys winter or quality all seasons does so because they have first hand experience with summer tires in the snow.

    I run Conti DWS's. Driving on summer tires in snow is unsafe and dangerous. Sure it's fun for hooning, but not for getting to and from work. I've passed plenty of people who think their tires are "good enough" trying to climb one particular mountain on the way to work. They are a hazard, because as soon as they lose forward momentum in the first 1/4 of the climb, they start sliding backwards.

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    except its summer tires not snow tires, but i think you get the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent View Post
    I'm running my tuned S6 with summers, but i'm super careful. I would've gotten winters if i wasn't planning on changing the car.
    And you can catch spinning GT2s. You're basically a professional driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent View Post
    I'm running my tuned S6 with summers, but i'm super careful. I would've gotten winters if i wasn't planning on changing the car.
    Why buy all seasons when you won't own the car for 4 seasons, amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilevo View Post
    I have. I drove my B5 S4 in the snow on summer tires. It sucked. I could accelerate but stopping distances sucked and to turn I basically had to drift and power through get my car to go where I wanted it to. I stove my TDI in the snow with snow tires on and it was world's better than the S4 was on summer tires.

    Just admit it dude, you're wrong. Summer tires are not meant for driving in ANY weather below 40*F. They become hard as a rock and slide all over the place. Yes it may be possible to get around with them, but it doesn't make it safe or wise to do it.
    My S4 is on summer tires and my previous A6 avant was on summer tires. I've driven both in the snow and they handle exactly like Adam describes. Acceleration was decent, but stopping and turning were awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilevo View Post
    Just admit it dude, you're wrong. Summer tires are not meant for driving in ANY weather below 40*F. They become hard as a rock and slide all over the place. Yes it may be possible to get around with them, but it doesn't make it safe or wise to do it.
    if i was wrong about being able to get by with them, why did you state 3 sentences later that you can get by with them?

    I have no idea why you are accelerating or braking hard enough to slide around. Sounds like you're going way too fast. you are not a rally cross driver!! JUST ADMIT IT!!!


    Honestly you guys are right... I must be some kind of rallycross driver or something. B/c i only had one car and it only had summers all last year. and i didn't slide around unless i wanted to. Rally cross drivers are really really careful with the throttle and braking, right guys??

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpent View Post
    i'm running my tuned s6 with summers, but i'm super careful. I would've gotten winters if i wasn't planning on changing the car.
    sean how dare you endanger everyone in the world with your summer tires you bastard!!!!!!!! don't you know its impossible to drive safely on summer tires??? Any time its below 40 degrees its impossible to stop or turn how the heck do you make it to work without turning!!!??

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