H&R Street Coliovers

[Greygoblin]

Have S4 (B8), put H&R sport springs on. Lowered me too much, scraping belly terribly when entering office garage. Need to get closer to stock, but want tighter suspension (for street us only). Figure choice is either H&R OE sport springs (mediocre solution) or H&R Street Coilovers. H&R coilovers list the lowering from 1.0-2.2in and the OE sport springs list the average lowering of 1.2in. With the coilovers I'm hoping I could get similar height to OE springs or even closer to stock with the and the benefit of a street performance coilover, plus a reasonable price (about half the cost of the bilsteins).
Talking to those in the know, reading various forums. H&R street coilovers getting good reviews, but one person suggested the lowering is more aggressive than advertised.

Would be grateful for any feedback, especially re: lowering as I would need to keep them at highest setting. want to make sure not too much below stock and not too bouncy at that setting (certainly hoping tighter than stock).
Thank you.

[AKPS4]

I've already read that the H&R coilovers are low. if you don't need coilovers specifically for track or sim then I'd just go OE springs and upgrade shocks now or later. OE is the perfect drop IMO.

[o1turbo30v]

Get Eibach Pro Kit springs and run them with your stock shocks or with Bilstein Sport Shocks.

[SteveYem]

I probably sound like a broken record by now, but it's particularly relevant here: I have the H&R Street Performance coilovers on my B8.5 and the rears are set as high as I can get them. There is maybe ~1-1.5 threads remaining before the collar reaches the end of the thread, which is as close as I care to go. (It's a fine thread so that extra full turn won't get it much higher). Then the fronts are set to match the fender-tire gap of the rear, although the fronts do have a good bit of upward adjustment remaining. (You could leave the rear where it is and raise the front higher, but it won't look right). If you need your ride height higher than this, then do not get the H&R Street Performance coilovers:

[XLR8 Craig]

Bilstein suspension on these cars are known for not being as "out of the box low". But The suggestions made by these two gentleman are solid advice. The Bilstein Shock and OE sport spring might be a very good option for you

You can see the OE sport spring on our website here


http://vag.excelerateperformance.com.../i-539936.aspx

Or the Bilstein /Eibach pro kit (B12) combination


http://vag.excelerateperformance.com...i-1735908.aspx

[boro92]

Based on your criteria, the bilstein b12 prokit would be a great choice, as would be rs5 suspension. Fwiw i run rs5 springs and shocks, got a mild drop and a big change in handling. Drop is approx half an inch on rs5 setup

[Greygoblin]

[QUOTE=SteveYem;11326442]I probably sound like a broken record by now, but it's particularly relevant here: I have the H&R Street Performance coilovers on my B8.5 and the rears are set as high as I can get them. There is maybe ~1-1.5 threads remaining before the collar reaches the end of the thread, which is as close as I care to go. (It's a fine thread so that extra full turn won't get it much higher). Then the fronts are set to match the fender-tire gap of the rear, although the fronts do have a good bit of upward adjustment remaining. (You could leave the rear where it is and raise the front higher, but it won't look right). If you need your ride height higher than this, then do not get the H&R Street Performance coilovers:



I'll tell you, every time I start to focus on one solution, I get enough feed back that I start questioning the practicality of that choice. Like asking 100 cooks the best way to make chicken soup...
That RS5 suspension idea is interesting. Any idea how much you dropped from stock with the H&R street coilovers? It's hard to tell from the pics?
Thank you.

[jran76]

Based on your criteria, the bilstein b12 prokit would be a great choice, as would be rs5 suspension. Fwiw i run rs5 springs and shocks, got a mild drop and a big change in handling. Drop is approx half an inch on rs5 setup

I'll echo this that the B12 pro-kit is a good option for a moderate drop. I run the OE springs with the same Bilstein (B8) sport shocks, and I'm happy with them. It's probably a slightly lower drop than the B12 kit, but close either way.

[SteveYem]

I'll tell you, every time I start to focus on one solution, I get enough feed back that I start questioning the practicality of that choice. Like asking 100 cooks the best way to make chicken soup...
That RS5 suspension idea is interesting. Any idea how much you dropped from stock with the H&R street coilovers? It's hard to tell from the pics?
Thank you.

I can't find my stock ground-to-fender measurements, but my current ground-to-fender measurement is approx. 25-1/2". If I remember correctly the stock height was somewhere around 27". I'll put it this way - I currently have approx. 1 index finger's worth of gap from the tire to the fender, front and rear, so that's maybe 1/2"-5/8" gap from fender to tire.

[Greygoblin]

I can't find my stock ground-to-fender measurements, but my current ground-to-fender measurement is approx. 25-1/2". If I remember correctly the stock height was somewhere around 27". I'll put it this way - I currently have approx. 1 index finger's worth of gap from the tire to the fender, front and rear, so that's maybe 1/2"-5/8" gap from fender to tire.

That's helpful. I will check my car.

I called ECS-TUNING for advice and one rep recommended MEGAN RACING Euro Street Series Coilovers. They:
1) have a wider range of lowering and start at .5" which could be key for me;
2) have adjustable Dampening;
3) are only $900; and
4) according to the sales rep are excellent, only priced so well b/c they are breaking into the European market and do not yet have the name.

Anyone ever heard of them or have any feedback (the link is below)

https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S4...ing/ES2839063/

Thank you

[bknewtype]

That's helpful. I will check my car.

I called ECS-TUNING for advice and one rep recommended MEGAN RACING Euro Street Series Coilovers. They:
1) have a wider range of lowering and start at .5" which could be key for me;
2) have adjustable Dampening;
3) are only $900; and
4) according to the sales rep are excellent, only priced so well b/c they are breaking into the European market and do not yet have the name.

Anyone ever heard of them or have any feedback (the link is below)

https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S4...ing/ES2839063/

Thank you

megan racing is big in the JDM world. they are pretty reputable. I cant comment on those specific coils though. I had megan racing headers on my old g35 coupe, not that that helps lol

[boro92]

Megan racing coilovers are ...i dunno i drove a car with them and they were the worst suspension i ever sampled *this was on track*. The lack of rebound was so poor that the car was skipping sideways mid corner. The car would actually load up and unload so rapidly that the tires would chirp sideways as the car skips mid corner. Mind u , this was 5 years ago and they may have a better product now. But back then, whoa, it was bad.

For less money i would buy the ecs cup kit. Or bilstein b12. Billy shocks are fantastic. As are koni yellow. The quality of shock is most important above all in any suspension package.

[bhvrdr]

Yeah I would not call Megan reputable. They may be recognizable but I wouldnt say reputable. There are dozens of JDM coilovers (Apex'i, BC Racing, D2, Greddy, Ksport, Omni, Skunk2, Tanabe, T1R, and GoPower) that are all made in the same Taiwanese factory alongside the Megans. The quality can be really hit or miss. If you contact that factory and specify you will order more than 100 units they'd be glad to pick out a color for you and build them to your "specs" and now you are a coilover manufacturer.

BORO: Would you mind telling us a bit about your RS5 setup and how it has been performing for you? I'm interested in a factory type setup for my daily driver S4. I've been considering the B12 but the RS5 may work. Thanks so much.

Mike

[Greygoblin]

Yeah I would not call Megan reputable. They may be recognizable but I wouldnt say reputable. There are dozens of JDM coilovers (Apex'i, BC Racing, D2, Greddy, Ksport, Omni, Skunk2, Tanabe, T1R, and GoPower) that are all made in the same Taiwanese factory alongside the Megans. The quality can be really hit or miss. If you contact that factory and specify you will order more than 100 units they'd be glad to pick out a color for you and build them to your "specs" and now you are a coilover manufacturer.

BORO: Would you mind telling us a bit about your RS5 setup and how it has been performing for you? I'm interested in a factory type setup for my daily driver S4. I've been considering the B12 but the RS5 may work. Thanks so much.

Mike

Ouch, that's a pretty horrible review of the Megan. I too would like more info on the RS5 setup. Anyone know where, how much etc. Someone also suggested spring lifters, but that seems like a pretty lame solution.

[o1turbo30v]

Megan Racing's are not that great, why do you want coilovers to drop a .5"?! The whole idea of a coilover is that it rides well when lowered 1.5-2.0" , save money and aggravation and just buy a shock/spring setup. The Bilstein B12 Pro Kit is $800 for the shocks and springs. Done, install and forget about them, no jacking up the car to adjust every corner, worrying about corrosion on threads, etc, etc

[Greygoblin]

Megan Racing's are not that great, why do you want coilovers to drop a .5"?! The whole idea of a coilover is that it rides well when lowered 1.5-2.0" , save money and aggravation and just buy a shock/spring setup. The Bilstein B12 Pro Kit is $800 for the shocks and springs. Done, install and forget about them, no jacking up the car to adjust every corner, worrying about corrosion on threads, etc, etc

Am currently well below stock with my H&R sport springs. Problem is I am scraping terribly when entering my office garage (huge ramp) and occasionally the tires are scraping the wheel wells. Need to raise it up closer to stock.

[mavz]

Yeah I would not call Megan reputable. They may be recognizable but I wouldnt say reputable. There are dozens of JDM coilovers (Apex'i, BC Racing, D2, Greddy, Ksport, Omni, Skunk2, Tanabe, T1R, and GoPower) that are all made in the same Taiwanese factory alongside the Megans. The quality can be really hit or miss. If you contact that factory and specify you will order more than 100 units they'd be glad to pick out a color for you and build them to your "specs" and now you are a coilover manufacturer.

BORO: Would you mind telling us a bit about your RS5 setup and how it has been performing for you? I'm interested in a factory type setup for my daily driver S4. I've been considering the B12 but the RS5 may work. Thanks so much.

Mike

I found his blog... he has a post about it here:

http://dreamingin302ci.blogspot.com/...ion-on-s4.html

[Greygoblin]

I found his blog... he has a post about it here:

http://dreamingin302ci.blogspot.com/...ion-on-s4.html

Anyone else with info on the RS4 suspension on S4? Also, any idea of cost and a good source other than an audi dealer?

[nickskeeta]

Megans are horrible, had them on my Mini Cooper and swapped them out eventually....
I have H&R OE springs on my B8 with stock struts. It rides like the stock suspension, just slightly bouncier on bumps. The drop is nice, I have 19x9.5 et40 wheels and have never rubbed the tires once and my front bumper clears parking curbs+steep driveways. Although I am considering H&R coilovers to close up the the wheel gap just a tad bit more and improve handling.

[AKPS4]

I wouldn't trust anything a vendor says, at least not everything. They need to sell product and when you are not knowledgable about what you want they will sell you anything

[J.S4]

Anyone else with info on the RS4 suspension on S4? Also, any idea of cost and a good source other than an audi dealer?

Quick parts search shows ECS has an RS5 shock/strut kit for $1170, plus springs (R 8K0511115CM / F 8K0411105CP) priced @ $180 each (only a few dollars less than Audi list price). so you're looking at $1,890 in parts if you were to buy new. That's only $200-$300 less than a set of PSS10s or V3s, which isn't a great deal IMO. Best bet is to try to find someone selling used...

[Greygoblin]

Sticking my finger under the fender, I would say my winter tires are either flush with the fender or even 1/8" higher than the fender. That has to be much lower than the 1.5" average drop H&R says to expect when using their sport springs. The H&R Street coilovers start at 1" and while I have been told that you don't want to keep them at the max height, I think I could set them higher than the car currently sits and be closer to a true 1.5" drop from stock. The problem is that if it remains too low, I am screwed (having paid for springs + labor, then coilovers + labor) and still have the problem unresolved. In that event, the only other thing I can think of is installing skid plates. If I am just scraping a skid plate as I enter my garage every day, I won't mind so much. Anyone know anything about skid plates?
Thank you

[Brother Owl]

Sticking my finger under the fender, I would say my winter tires are either flush with the fender or even 1/8" higher than the fender. That has to be much lower than the 1.5" average drop H&R says to expect when using their sport springs. The H&R Street coilovers start at 1" and while I have been told that you don't want to keep them at the max height, I think I could set them higher than the car currently sits and be closer to a true 1.5" drop from stock. The problem is that if it remains too low, I am screwed (having paid for springs + labor, then coilovers + labor) and still have the problem unresolved. In that event, the only other thing I can think of is installing skid plates. If I am just scraping a skid plate as I enter my garage every day, I won't mind so much. Anyone know anything about skid plates?
Thank you

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...num-Skid-Plate

[Greygoblin]

The ECS skid plate only covers the front; when I raised the car on a lift, it looks like the area that is scraping the most is the underbody liner (the long plastic piece) about midway from front to back. I need something that will cover that area. I wonder if there is one out there or if making something custom with sheet of aluminum makes any sense.