Driver assist

[richib86]

Whats up guys, pretty much 100% on getting out of my S4 and into a S6. Having trouble deciding if driver assist is worth it. Never had it on my cars before but drive plenty of them here at the dealership(work at audi meadowlands). I know all of the reasons I tell customers to go that route but I'm not an average customer lol. Those of you with it, would you do it again? Things you like, things you hate? Those of you without it, do you wish you had it?
Thanks in advance! I'll be around much more now in these parts haha

[HyperM3]

Hey man, good to see you here! As a 4 time S6 owner(its good to work for Audi) 3 of them have had drivers assist. I never use lane assist but I have had the pre-sense braking save me about 3 times in traffic. I also ended up using the adaptive cruise a lot more than I thought I would. I dont think I would ever order a car without it at this point.

[richib86]

Hey man, good to see you here! As a 4 time S6 owner(its good to work for Audi) 3 of them have had drivers assist. I never use lane assist but I have had the pre-sense braking save me about 3 times in traffic. I also ended up using the adaptive cruise a lot more than I thought I would. I dont think I would ever order a car without it at this point.

hmm good to know, btw you guys have a gorgeous store. I always take cars from you haha

[HyperM3]

hmm good to know, btw you guys have a gorgeous store. I always take cars from you haha

If you are here personally sometime ask for me!

[chudiddy]

Hey man, good to see you here! As a 4 time S6 owner(its good to work for Audi) 3 of them have had drivers assist. I never use lane assist but I have had the pre-sense braking save me about 3 times in traffic. I also ended up using the adaptive cruise a lot more than I thought I would. I dont think I would ever order a car without it at this point.

These are my exact sentiments. Lane assist was a good novelty when I first got it but then I found myself turning it off because it was to invasive. But then I adjusted the intervention time to early via Vag Com and now its a useable feature. The laser cruise control is a nice feature that I too found myself using more than I thought I ever would. The only thing I would probably skip if I had to do it again would be the night vision but at that price point, it really didn't make that much of a difference money wise so I opted for the feature.

Are you ordering a brand new one?

[richib86]

If you are here personally sometime ask for me!

will do, bit the bullet on a mythos black with arras red interior package, driver assist, black optic, LED, and sport package. only thing it's missing that I wish I had was the alcantara headliner

[HyperM3]

will do, bit the bullet on a mythos black with arras red interior package, driver assist, black optic, LED, and sport package. only thing it's missing that I wish I had was the alcantara headliner

Im sorry, but 3g for the headliner is just silly to me. You can put that towards the down payment or let it rain at the club(not really).

[richib86]

Im sorry, but 3g for the headliner is just silly to me. You can put that towards the down payment or let it rain at the club(not really).

thats ultimately why im ok with it lol

[tonymission]

Pre-sense braking!
I don't use the lane assist but think the package is worth it


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[justcured]

I use the adaptive cruise control all the time. I live on a barrier island full of tourists who have forgotten how to drive (or never knew how). The local sheriff also patrols our little road extensively. Between the speed traps and the tourists who all must drive 20 mph under the limit, I cannot win.

From my house to the bridge (2.5 miles), there are four different speed limits. In order to protect my sanity, I just turn on the ACC when I leave my street. A couple of taps up or down at each change and I find I don't even pay attention any more to the snail's pace the car in front of me is traveling.

I use the lane assist on the highway (VCDS set to early intervention). In a couple of months of ownership, thankfully have not experienced the pre-sense braking.

[tonymission]

will do, bit the bullet on a mythos black with arras red interior package, driver assist, black optic, LED, and sport package. only thing it's missing that I wish I had was the alcantara headliner

Same config I had on my s6.. Those seats with the mythos black is A+++!!


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[Brooklyn]

DA is a tough call. I like the utility of it on long highway drives. On a recent drive from DC to NYC, the combination of adaptive cruise control and lane assist pretty much allowed me to maintain focus on the road and even pour myself a cup of coffee while the woman and children were knocked out. On the other hand, in town I've so far found it to be pretty useless. If I were on a tight budget, I don't know that I would spend the money on it because other than long highway drives (which is a rarity for me these days), I hardly use those features. But if I had the coin, I'd get it simply because in certain situations, it comes in handy.

Likes: combination of lane assist and adaptive cruise control result in damn near a self-driving car (albeit with your hands on the wheels). Lane assist can be useful as a safety feature as well (I can see it coming in handy if you're at all worried about possibly dozing off at the wheel).

Dislike: Pretty useless to me in routine traffic. ACC's preset limits keeps more space between you and cars than you would normally see in regular traffic conditions. End result is cars darting in front of you to exploit the space, and the car hammering on the brakes every time that happens. On a road with a decent speed limit, it will rocket up to speed (not a bad thing) but then hammer the brakes the minute it realizes there's a car in front of you, which might very well be at a red light. More problematically, I've had instances where, for whatever reason, it failed to detect a car that had darted into my lane. Almost as though the car somehow slipped into the lane without the radar system picking it up in time. End result - having to take manual control before driving into the back of the car.

[Brooklyn]

A word on pre-sense - that shit can get you killed. I've had multiple instances where I've changed lanes to avoid a slowing car in front of me, only to have it slam on the brakes even while I'm in the next lane because the system thinks I'm still in the prior lane and the car ahead of me has stopped. End result has been a rapid mashing of the gas to avoid the now rapidly approaching and clueless driver behind me still hurtling on at or above the speed limit. It has come in handy a few times, but for the most part it has caused unnecessary increases in my blood pressure.

[zee007]

Don't have it. Don't regret it. Hard to say if I miss it as I've never had it.

[DB22]

A word on pre-sense - that shit can get you killed. I've had multiple instances where I've changed lanes to avoid a slowing car in front of me, only to have it slam on the brakes even while I'm in the next lane because the system thinks I'm still in the prior lane and the car ahead of me has stopped. End result has been a rapid mashing of the gas to avoid the now rapidly approaching and clueless driver behind me still hurtling on at or above the speed limit. It has come in handy a few times, but for the most part it has caused unnecessary increases in my blood pressure.

I agree with your assessment completely. A few lines of code, written by somebody who can actually drive, could easily fix this feature.

[zcd2.7t]

I find the side assist very helpful in rush-hour traffic.

Night Vision is interesting technology, but to me it's more a "party trick" than a useful thing.

The pre-sense braking is more useful than I'd like to admit.

As another former S4 owner, best of luck with the new ride! It's a gorgeous thing inside and out, and a true pleasure to drive. (but I still miss the instant response of that 3.0T motor!)

[Serpent]

Pre-sense braking has "saved" me a few times and almost gotten me killed a few times. Driving in the DMV(like Brooklyn) during semi rush hour traffic means having to make quick moves in/out of traffic and brake guard feature kicks on every time. Sometimes if i'm squeezing into a turning lane or exit I have to carry more speed and get in between two cars but its moving traffic, brake guard doesn't understand this and kicks on - i have to drive defensively and anticipate brake guard kicking so the guy behind me doesn't run into me.


I like side assist, ACC and use them a lot. Would get it on my next car(and I did).

[S6Express]

Pre Sense braking has saved me from two "for sure" accidents. As others have said it has also freaked me out as well as the driver behind me. At the end of the day if you rear end someone - it's your fault. If someone rear ends you it's his fault. I'd rather have it then not have it. You also learn to use it. For example, I know I can't "time it" and hit the gas as a car in front of me is turning and nearly clip their bumper. Pre brake will definitely kick in.

[VVG]

I use the adaptive cruise control all the time. I live on a barrier island full of tourists who have forgotten how to drive (or never knew how). The local sheriff also patrols our little road extensively. Between the speed traps and the tourists who all must drive 20 mph under the limit, I cannot win.

From my house to the bridge (2.5 miles), there are four different speed limits. In order to protect my sanity, I just turn on the ACC when I leave my street. A couple of taps up or down at each change and I find I don't even pay attention any more to the snail's pace the car in front of me is traveling.

I use the lane assist on the highway (VCDS set to early intervention). In a couple of months of ownership, thankfully have not experienced the pre-sense braking.

There is a bigger issue here......until recently, technology simply enhanced human control of the car. Now it is beginning to fully replace human control of the car. There is no doubt that within the next 10 years, a majority of cars will have full self-driving capability. Going forward, roads may even be engineered differently to allow car sensors to better "read" the environment, etc. Depending on how good these systems are, we may or may not have increased safety. And the lawyers are already salivating. Imagine the potential law suits generated against manufacturers if these systems failed? And people who are deemed at fault in an accident can also just blame it on the car. What will happen with the insurance industry? This is HUGE.

As these technologies increase in function and sophistication, people will "forget how to drive", and human control of the vehicle will become increasingly dangerous as people will have less and less experience with it.

As to whether to get a car equipped with these accident avoidance technologies or not.....I think you almost have to because, increasingly, people will be depending on it. It is being forced on us by the auto industry and government. No different than the stability control systems that are now mandatory on all cars. It may be harder to resell a car that doesn't have this, for instance. I did not get it on my S6 when I bought in December 2013, because, for me, all these automatic inputs by the car, spooked me out during a test drive. But, I am now 50 years old and am a seasoned human driving enthusiast. It will be a different world for people just getting their license today, even if they are enthusiasts.

[turbello18]

Driver assist was a requirement for me because of the stop/go feature. It also had to have black headliner. B/O after having the bose for a bit should have been on the need to have list. I personally wasn't interested in the innovation package (lane assist/night vision) and after hearing what people have to say, glad i'm not missing out.

[ImpartialFocus]

I love the cruise assist, really nice to have in traffic. I like the lane assist for long highway drives. I also turn it on when I'm fiddling with temp, radio, and any other activity as added protection.


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[BlueSVT]

There's far too many of you being "saved" by pre-sense braking... what the hell are you doing?!? Hahaha

[HyperM3]

There's far too many of you being "saved" by pre-sense braking... what the hell are you doing?!? Hahaha

The three times it saved me were when I had someone in front of me at a light, they start to go but dont go as fast as I think they are going to go and my pre-sense kicks in before I see whats in their trunk.

[zcd2.7t]

There's far too many of you being "saved" by pre-sense braking... what the hell are you doing?!? Hahaha

I plead the 5th....

[tonymission]

The three times it saved me were when I had someone in front of me at a light, they start to go but dont go as fast as I think they are going to go and my pre-sense kicks in before I see whats in their trunk.

I plead the 5th....

Same


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[Serpent]

The three times it saved me were when I had someone in front of me at a light, they start to go but dont go as fast as I think they are going to go and my pre-sense kicks in before I see whats in their trunk.

I plead the 5th....

Same


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What ^ said.

[rayray]

The three times it saved me were when I had someone in front of me at a light, they start to go but dont go as fast as I think they are going to go and my pre-sense kicks in before I see whats in their trunk.

I plead the 5th....

Same

What ^ said.

One more...Nolo contendere!

[BlueSVT]

Texting and driving... got it, LOL.

[jrsAudiA6]

There is a bigger issue here......until recently, technology simply enhanced human control of the car. Now it is beginning to fully replace human control of the car. There is no doubt that within the next 10 years, a majority of cars will have full self-driving capability. Going forward, roads may even be engineered differently to allow car sensors to better "read" the environment, etc. Depending on how good these systems are, we may or may not have increased safety. And the lawyers are already salivating. Imagine the potential law suits generated against manufacturers if these systems failed? And people who are deemed at fault in an accident can also just blame it on the car. What will happen with the insurance industry? This is HUGE.

As these technologies increase in function and sophistication, people will "forget how to drive", and human control of the vehicle will become increasingly dangerous as people will have less and less experience with it.

As to whether to get a car equipped with these accident avoidance technologies or not.....I think you almost have to because, increasingly, people will be depending on it. It is being forced on us by the auto industry and government. No different than the stability control systems that are now mandatory on all cars. It may be harder to resell a car that doesn't have this, for instance. I did not get it on my S6 when I bought in December 2013, because, for me, all these automatic inputs by the car, spooked me out during a test drive. But, I am now 50 years old and am a seasoned human driving enthusiast. It will be a different world for people just getting their license today, even if they are enthusiasts.

I have a different take on why these driver assist features are becoming more important, although some of what you write is also true. Some of the driver assist features are actually very good at reducing driver fatigue on long trips, i.e. ACC. Drivers today do not really drive their car in the manner that is safe for them and others. That is they are on not totally focused on driving, instead they are applying make up, texting, on the phone talking etc..... Use of turn signals to indicate a change in lane or direction is seldom used. Maintaining speed is problematic. Hogging the passing lane while doing at or below posted speed limit is fairly common. I could go on but the various driver assist and collision avoidance systems are a reaction by the industry to just poor driving skills IMHO. Just my 2 cents on the subject.

[VVG]

I have a different take on why these driver assist features are becoming more important, although some of what you write is also true. Some of the driver assist features are actually very good at reducing driver fatigue on long trips, i.e. ACC. Drivers today do not really drive their car in the manner that is safe for them and others. That is they are on not totally focused on driving, instead they are applying make up, texting, on the phone talking etc..... Use of turn signals to indicate a change in lane or direction is seldom used. Maintaining speed is problematic. Hogging the passing lane while doing at or below posted speed limit is fairly common. I could go on but the various driver assist and collision avoidance systems are a reaction by the industry to just poor driving skills IMHO. Just my 2 cents on the subject.

I agree that cars are involving into high tech transport modules that allow more than just basic driving. It's just disappointing to this enthusiast that driving will itself become obsolete, probably in my lifetime.

[VVG]

I have a different take on why these driver assist features are becoming more important, although some of what you write is also true. Some of the driver assist features are actually very good at reducing driver fatigue on long trips, i.e. ACC. Drivers today do not really drive their car in the manner that is safe for them and others. That is they are on not totally focused on driving, instead they are applying make up, texting, on the phone talking etc..... Use of turn signals to indicate a change in lane or direction is seldom used. Maintaining speed is problematic. Hogging the passing lane while doing at or below posted speed limit is fairly common. I could go on but the various driver assist and collision avoidance systems are a reaction by the industry to just poor driving skills IMHO. Just my 2 cents on the subject.

I agree that cars are involving into high tech transport modules that allow more than just basic driving. It's just disappointing to this enthusiast that driving will itself become obsolete, probably in my lifetime. After all, why should a human pilot a car, when a computer can do it so much better so you can text all you like.