:: ECS Tuning :: NEW!! 2-Piece Direct-Fit Brake Rotors | Audi 8V S3

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Light on weight. Long on looks. The ECS Tuning 2-Piece brake rotors combine the natural advantages of a cast iron braking surface with the weight savings and rapid heat dissipation of an aluminum hat.

Cast iron-gray and durable matte black hats create an eye-catching contrast that accents painted calipers behind open-faced alloy wheels.

These beauties have all the extras: black anodized hats, cross-drilled and slotted brake faces, and unlike OEM, directionally vaned rotors for better cooling and heat dissipation over stock.


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Fits:
Audi 8V S3 2015+

Let me know if you have any questions.

Jason

[phillyquattro]

These look great but how do these cost more than the B8 S4 2 piece rotors that are actually larger?

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

These look great but how do these cost more than the B8 S4 2 piece rotors that are actually larger?

Just is what it is. Our B8 S4 rotors are also priced aggressively since they move well.

Jason

[WildHareMS]

Just is what it is. Our B8 S4 rotors are also priced aggressively since they move well.

Jason

So by that same thought process, if you want these to move well...shouldn't they be priced in a similar manner?

[m3brad]

So by that same thought process, if you want these to move well...shouldn't they be priced in a similar manner?

Agreed!! How bout an aggressive sale price to get more exposure along with owner reviews.

[markn1689]

greedy ECS, will not order from you again. was an awesome customer since 2003 but now i will just use your site to find part numbers. bye

[949]

greedy ECS, will not order from you again. was an awesome customer since 2003 but now i will just use your site to find part numbers. bye

+1

after talking to them about pricing in the past, the customer service is below par sometimes but never great if ever.
the prices is very high. I personally would never buy from them ever. I don't want to contribute to a bunch of rich people who's customer service guys don't really know the products themselves.

[markn1689]

+1

after talking to them about pricing in the past, the customer service is below par sometimes but never great if ever.
the prices is very high. I personally would never buy from them ever. I don't want to contribute to a bunch of rich people who's customer service guys don't really know the products themselves.

its like they got to big they forgot about the people (us) that got them there

[will13k7]

really? I've had nothing but a good experience ordering from them. I've had over 30 orders with them over the past 4 years. their website is second to none compared to other tuner part suppliers. they have convenient packages/kits. customer service was on par when I had to cancel an order due to Audi taking forever to supply a part.

[m3brad]

I cannot comment on their customer service, but their prices are better than the competition on this forum. I'm just not a big fan of drilling rotors, but my car won't be at the track that often either.

[LINDW4LL]

ECS is great for these in-house parts.

Obviously at this point demand is lower for S3 parts in comparison to the B8 S4, thus the higher price.

[Over9000]

ECS is great for these in-house parts.

Obviously at this point demand is lower for S3 parts in comparison to the B8 S4, thus the higher price.

Hayden is EVERYWHERE.

Also, am I completely missing something here, or is everyone losing their shit and disavowing vendors over $10?

https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S4...ors/ES2602983/

vs.

https://www.ecstuning.com/News/Audi_..._Brake_Rotors/

[LINDW4LL]

Hayden is EVERYWHERE. Also, am I completely missing something here, or is everyone losing their shit and disavowing vendors over $10?

I am omnipresent.

Also, LOL. I think the B8 rotors may have been on sale for $499 recently, so perhaps that's what they're referring to. Or, maybe I'm crazy.

[markn1689]

yea your missing the part about customer service. i'm still waiting on a response to my email from them which i figure i will probably never get.

they also have really high shipping prices too. i used them to get some part numbers then just ordered on amazon for much cheaper

you may have missed how the s4 brakes are bigger yet are cheaper. and you may have missed the lame response of "Just is what it is"

[roadrunner_oz]

Been using ECS for many years. Great service and products. I bought these rotors last week for my S3. I had them previously on my 1M Coupe and they were excellent.... far better than stock.

[phillyquattro]

Wow. I just wanted to know why these rotors cost more than the same rotor for another car that requires more materials. I see some people really took that and ran with it in the negative space. For the record I've been a customer with ECS for many years going back to my B7 days and have never even once had anything but good things to say about them.

[Over9000]

Wow. I just wanted to know why these rotors cost more than the same rotor for another car that requires more materials. I see some people really took that and ran with it in the negative space. For the record I've been a customer with ECS for many years going back to my B7 days and have never even once had anything but good things to say about them.

Lol. You should know the pitchforks are always at the ready on AZ!

To answer your question though, it's because we're not dealing with exotic materials here – most of the cost on these sorts of things is derived from r&d/production/assembly. Even excluding that, they're damn near the same size anyway (345x30 vs. 340x30, plus a couple mm difference on the centerbore). A $10 price difference in the wrong direction for the S3 is actually not bad, considering the volume on the S4s is probably much, much higher at this point than the S3, given a 5 year head start in production. Call that the longer and more thorough version of, "Just is what it is," which I can agree was probably not the best way to answer your question.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

yea your missing the part about customer service. i'm still waiting on a response to my email from them which i figure i will probably never get.

they also have really high shipping prices too. i used them to get some part numbers then just ordered on amazon for much cheaper

you may have missed how the s4 brakes are bigger yet are cheaper. and you may have missed the lame response of "Just is what it is"

Please keep this thread on topic. If you have an issue with customer service please PM me there's no reason to drag this thread off topic with customer service issues.

To address pricing concerns:

It's not in our best interest to discuss pricing on a public forum. We come up with a price that we feel is appropriate for the product we're selling and the market that it is in. If it doesn't meet your personal expectations we apologize. We feel the price we have chosen is very fair - it's not something we wish to debate.

These rotors are designed in house in Wadsworth, OH and manufactured in Taiwan at a facility that is ISO certified to make brake rotors/components for automotive vehicles.

Jason

[markn1689]

Please keep this thread on topic. If you have an issue with customer service please PM me there's no reason to drag this thread off topic with customer service issues.

To address pricing concerns:

It's not in our best interest to discuss pricing on a public forum. We come up with a price that we feel is appropriate for the product we're selling and the market that it is in. If it doesn't meet your personal expectations we apologize. We feel the price we have chosen is very fair - it's not something we wish to debate.

These rotors are designed in house in Wadsworth, OH and manufactured in Taiwan at a facility that is ISO certified to make brake rotors/components for automotive vehicles.

Jason

hows this for on topic?

[phillyquattro]

Lol. You should know the pitchforks are always at the ready on AZ!

To answer your question though, it's because we're not dealing with exotic materials here – most of the cost on these sorts of things is derived from r&d/production/assembly. Even excluding that, they're damn near the same size anyway (345x30 vs. 340x30, plus a couple mm difference on the centerbore). A $10 price difference in the wrong direction for the S3 is actually not bad, considering the volume on the S4s is probably much, much higher at this point than the S3, given a 5 year head start in production. Call that the longer and more thorough version of, "Just is what it is," which I can agree was probably not the best way to answer your question.

To address pricing concerns:

It's not in our best interest to discuss pricing on a public forum. We come up with a price that we feel is appropriate for the product we're selling and the market that it is in. If it doesn't meet your personal expectations we apologize. We feel the price we have chosen is very fair - it's not something we wish to debate.

These rotors are designed in house in Wadsworth, OH and manufactured in Taiwan at a facility that is ISO certified to make brake rotors/components for automotive vehicles.

Jason

Thank you both for the answers. Just curious but would you ever offer pattern matching in the future? I'm assuming "no" is the answer but figured I'd ask as I want to do a BBK in the near future and would like to get matched 2-piece rotors for the rear.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Thank you both for the answers. Just curious but would you ever offer pattern matching in the future? I'm assuming "no" is the answer but figured I'd ask as I want to do a BBK in the near future and would like to get matched 2-piece rotors for the rear.

Unfortunately we will only be offering our 2-piece rotors in drilled and slotted at the moment.

Jason

[A20V200]

I think its a good option and the price point is good enough....it also includes FREE SHIPPING.

Remember, our cars are "new" to the market, so items cost a bit more to begin with because parts/manufacturers are limited. As the number grows, so will competition and prices come down.

[WildHareMS]

Wow... I won't go asking any questions again. I was just trying to encourage a little better price, not get into customer service qualms. I've been an ECS customer for about 4yrs, and I'm not going anywhere.


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[markn1689]

Wow... I won't go asking any questions again. I was just trying to encourage a little better price, not get into customer service qualms. I've been an ECS customer for about 4yrs, and I'm not going anywhere.

you should leave them. these rotors are made in china and have a long history of warping and vibration issues (from multiple users): http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-0-pads-issues

i can dig up more if you want.

Get the rotors from Emmanuele Design
They are designed and cast in the USA. And backed up with awesome customer support: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-8V-S3-Fitment

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

you should leave them. these rotors are made in china and have a long history of warping and vibration issues (from multiple users): http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-0-pads-issues

i can dig up more if you want.

Actually most of the vibration issues are due to customers improperly bedding their pads. When you don't bed the pads when you first install your rotors it's very easy for brake pad material to build up unevenly across the face of the rotor.



Jason

[markn1689]

Explain this Jason: http://www.r8talk.com/forums/5-gener...ng-rotors.html

ecs 2 piece rotos made in china:

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Small cracks from track use? Seems normal to me. That will happen to every single drilled rotor. It can even happen to slotted and full face rotors that see high temps from track usage and track pads.







Jason

[will13k7]

For those whom want to be informed:

The "Warped" Brake Disc and Other Myths of the Braking System


Investigation of the Effects on Braking Performance of Different Brake Rotor Designs.

A slotted rotor design with curved vane geometries seems to be the
best option for all driving applications. In racing applications it offers cleaning of brake pads but
does not compromise structural rigidity as much as compared to the cross hole design. At the
same time, the curved vane design seems to offer the best cooling performance. Blank rotors are
not the favored choice for racing applications simply because they can not control glazing and
debris very well. At the same time, racing applications and environments allow for checking and
replacing of cross drilled or slotted rotors more often and the safety concern is not as big as on
daily driven vehicles. For spirited driving applications with some track time the same holds true
with the exception that rotor cracks are now a larger concern for safety since the vehicle is being
driven on public roads and replacement or checking intervals are a lot further apart. Because of
this the cross drilled rotor design is the least favored for this category. The curved vane design
will still give the best cooling performance which might be needed in the occasional heavy
braking applications. For daily or normal driving operation the cross drilled rotor design is not
recommended due to the same reasons as for spirited driving. There is just no performance
benefit in any category for regular street driving that indicates the need for cross drilled brake
rotors. Appeal might be the only reason but it is a very poor reason to base such an important
decision on. Vanes designs for street driven vehicles are not of high importance as long as the
structural stability of the rotor is not compromised. Curved vanes would again be the preferable
option but if cost and installation play a role the decision becomes simpler depending on user
preference.

Rotors: Blank vs Cross Drilled vs Slotted and Warping

in summary these ECS rotors are fine for daily driving, which is what 99.9% of s3 owners will do 99.9% of the time.

[roadrunner_oz]

On my 1M after numerous track days..... The BMW OE rotors were replace under warranty twice due to NVH issues, while once I went with the ECS rotors I had no issues.

[roadrunner_oz]

For those whom want to be informed:

The "Warped" Brake Disc and Other Myths of the Braking System


Investigation of the Effects on Braking Performance of Different Brake Rotor Designs.



Rotors: Blank vs Cross Drilled vs Slotted and Warping

in summary these ECS rotors are fine for daily driving, which is what 99.9% of s3 owners will do 99.9% of the time.

Most AMG & ///M are cross-drilled now and doubt those manufacturers would put them on is not safe

Stoptech Sport rotors are same design....http://www.stoptech.com/products/rot...h-sport-rotors

[will13k7]

Most AMG & ///M are cross-drilled now and doubt those manufacturers would put them on is not safe

where does it say they are unsafe?

[roadrunner_oz]

lemme guess, you didn't actually read the articles huh? no where does it say they are unsafe.

I have read those before :) StopTech has excellent articles. Was agreeing and referring to Mirza Grebovic quote

[will13k7]

Was agreeing and referring to Mirza Grebovic quote

got ya, sounded more like a rebuttal comment at first .

[roadrunner_oz]

BTW, StopTech components are also made in China, incl their BBK. Brembo has Chinese operations ... and so on :)

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

in summary these ECS rotors are fine for daily driving, which is what 99.9% of s3 owners will do 99.9% of the time.

They can be used at the track. High temps is what kills rotors. Some seem to believe if they install a very aggressive track pad that can handle extremely high temps their brakes will hold up just fine.

When in reality the pads will be able to take the heat. For the rotors to be able to battle those same temps they need substantial amounts of cooling. Likely custom brake ducting/fins that direct more air towards the rotors. It would also be a good idea to have brake fluid that has a higher boiling point. Just like modding any other area of your vehicle for performance it's always a good idea to have supporting mods. You wouldn't want to install a big turbo capable of flowing much more air than your factory turbo without additional fueling/tuning right?

Jason

[will13k7]

Some seem to believe if they install a very aggressive track pad that can handle extremely high temps their brakes will hold up just fine.
. ... For the rotors to be able to battle those same temps they need substantial amounts of cooling.

no doubt. I don't see most people who hit the track that post on these forums adding air ducting. If there was an off-the-shelf air ducting kit, maybe that would change?

I hear a lot of folks say to avoid drilled brakes at the track, but Westwest888 has even cracked a slotted light-weight 2-piece design at the track, and at the rear where the temps are lower!

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

no doubt. I don't see most people who hit the track that post on these forums adding air ducting. If there was an off-the-shelf air ducting kit, maybe that would change?

I hear a lot of folks say to avoid drilled brakes at the track, but Westwest888 has even cracked a slotted light-weight 2-piece design at the track, and at the rear where the temps are lower!

I have no doubt in my mind that if there was a high demand for a brake duct cooling kit for 8V chassis vehicles one would be available. Same as any other model. Problem is the amount of guys that actually heavily track their vehicles enough to utilize something like that is even smaller compared to the general enthusiast group which is already limited.

Not to mention guys that are big into tracking would likely just have something custom made if they needed it. I've seen a good amount of B5 S4 guys make their own dust shield replacements that have a port to attach ducting which can be routed to the front of the vehicle for more direct air flow to the rotors.

In all honesty you can crack just about any rotor if it gets hot enough. Brake rotors are like big heat sinks, and just like any heat sink it can only handle so much heat before it overheats without proper cooling. That's where you'll have cracking. Now there is a difference between stress fractures from heat and a rotor actually failing from cracks. Minimum wear thickness also has an effect. The closer you are to minimum wear thickness the greater the chances of the rotor failing if it already shows stress fractures from heat. So it's important to keep a close eye on that. Anytime stress fractures start to connect or reach the edge of the rotor you should consider replacement.

Jason