:: ECS Tuning :: B8 RS5 4.2L ECS Kohlefaser Luft-Technik Intake

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Crafted from hand-laid carbon fiber and utilizing a fiberglass interior layer, the Audi RS5 Kohlefaser Luft-Technik Intake sets a new benchmark in appearance and durability - all while resisting the performance-robbing effects of engine heat soak.

ECS has subjected this system to rigorous real-world testing, including power-gain measurements on our in-house chassis dynamometer.

The convergence of unrivaled beauty, perfected fitment, industry-standard quality, and evidence-based performance claims has resulted in a gorgeous power-enhancer beyond anything available for your 4.2L.


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Fits:
Audi RS5 (2013+)

Be sure to check out our -----> Installation PDF <-----

Let me know if you have any questions.

Jason

[Jimmy ny]

I love mine. I will be posting a video soon. Intake and Capristo exhaust.


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[JamesRS5]

I love mine. I will be posting a video soon. Intake and Capristo exhaust.

And a dyno run?

[Jimmy ny]

No Dyno. I really don't want to put the car on the rollers. It's not like your going to reach 400 rear wheel. That used to be the standard for a fast car here in the USA. Now a lot of cars are going over 500-700 to the tires. I'm sure it's going to be around 360-370 all wheel.


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[JamesRS5]

That's wishful thinking Jimmy, you're around 100hp off the mark!

You lose approximately 80hp per set of driven wheels so on Audis 4WD system that's 160hp converted to heat and noise before it hits the wheels. On a standard car you will have 250 to 260hp at the wheels and around 420 to 430 at the engine.
With a good intake and exhaust I would imagine you'd see 450 to 460hp out of these engines so 300hp at the wheels.

[Jimmy ny]

No Definitely more than that. 450 stock. Haven't you seen other RS5 DYNO numbers?


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[JamesRS5]

No Definitely more than that. 450 stock. Haven't you seen other RS5 DYNO numbers?

Wow, I'm disappointed you believe the Audi sales hype for this motor.

The RS5 makes 420 to 425hp as stock, NOT the Audi claimed 450hp. This was all over the press back when the car was released Jimmy.

Google it, you will see!

Please don't quote me a bunch of dynojet (dream maker) figures, they aren't realistic.

[Jimmy ny]

When you dyno your car you can show everybody.


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[Jimmy ny]

APR claims 350 stock all wheel. Intake and exhaust. I'm spot on. Between 360-370 all wheel.


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[JamesRS5]

When you dyno your car you can show everybody.

I'll just leave this here....




Maha LPS 3000 dyno

Google it if you doubt it's accuracy.

[Jimmy ny]

Look and see what APR got when they were developing their tune. In the USA dynojet is the company all major tuners and magazines test with. It's not a dyno queen car. If your looking for that get a mustang or camaro and put on a supercharger.


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[JamesRS5]

Jimmy this is a debate for another thread not blocking up ECS intake.

APR measure at the wheel hub, not the wheels.

[chrissurfr]

I'll just leave this here....




Maha LPS 3000 dyno

Google it if you doubt it's accuracy.

lmfao

[Hippyshakes]

I'll just leave this here....




Maha LPS 3000 dyno

Google it if you doubt it's accuracy.

LOL. Brother just "Drop The Mic" and walk away. Come home to the Eventuri thread. ;)

[Jimmy ny]

LOL. Brother just "Drop The Mic" and walk away. Come home to the Eventuri thread. ;)

Once again no insightful information. What do you know about cars, especially your own. You couldn't make it in NY.


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[LINDW4LL]

Jimmy is on the mark here. With every dyno chart I've seen, the RS 5 consistently makes around 350whp. The B7 RS, without the improvements of the RS5's updated engine, would put down ~330whp when not hindered by carbon.

No RS5 is making 290whp unless it has something wrong with the engine, mad carbon buildup, or the dyno calibration is off.

[JamesRS5]

Standard car, no carbon build up, 9000m on the clock. That's what you're putting down on the road. Runs made in 5th gear as that's the most direct gear on these cars.

[Jimmy ny]

Something is wrong with the car , dyno, or dyno operator.


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[LINDW4LL]

James, surely you can't believe those numbers are accurate. I respect you having the dyno done as the delta is all that matters in this case.

Even a stock B8 S5 makes over 250whp. A stock B8 S4 makes 290-300whp. By your logic, the RS would not be any faster than a 4.2 S5, and would be slower than a stock S4...

[JamesRS5]

No Jimmy, that is what the car is putting on the road through the tires. It's not a calculated figure, it's a measured figure from the dyno.

[JamesRS5]

I think we're confusing wheel HP and what the car is actually transferring through the tires to the road, all losses included.

Let me dig out the spec of the Maha dyno for you to explain what it's measuring.

[JamesRS5]

The second obstacle, is that most dyno's only measure "wheel horsepower" - that is the power that isn't sapped away by everything
located after the clutch (transmission, differentials, driveshaft, axles, even the wheels and tires themselves!). And since wheel
horsepower readings are dependent on the temperature of your transmission and differential oils (cold oil is like molasses and warm is like water..warm oil eats less power) and tire temperature (cold tiresoffer less resistance than warm sticky tires) so driveline loss can be inconsistant or as an expert refered to it as a moving target !

Many people simply add back a "guesstimate" of the parasitic drag of these components anywhere from 10-20% for FWD or RWD cars and 25-40% for AWD or 4WD cars. The final numbers are only as accurate as the tuner's best guess.

Many OE manufactures have felt that was an unacceptable platform to tune a vehicle from and went in search of something more precise and reliable.

The result of our search was the MAHA LPS 3000.
The inherent beauty of a dyno system like the MAHA LPS 3000, is that after it has measured the wheel horsepower, it measures the resistance of the entire drive train from the clutch to the tires So instead of dynoing a vehicle with a reported 200HP and measuring only 150HP at the wheel, and ASSUMING that 50HP was eaten up by the drag of the drivetrain and wheels The LPS 3000 actually measures the drag loss during the coast down phase. In fact, if the drag loss is only 30 HP, you know beyond a "guesstimate" that your engine only made 180HP, or if the drag was 50HP, you will know EXACTLY how much power your vehicle is really making. However, with a drag measurement you can rest assured that you have isolated ONLY the Engine's HP and not the engine's power minus an unknown amount of drag. The system also corrects for enviromental conditions.

[LINDW4LL]

WHP (wheel horsepower) IS what the car is actually putting to the ground. Thus why Brake HP/Crank HP/Flywheel HP is much higher than wheel, because the latter are pre-loss, unlike wheel.

I don't care to get into a big argument here. Just realize that no healthy RS is only putting 250awhp down. There is a near endless amount of dynos and data to show this. I still look forward to seeing your gains, though!

[JamesRS5]

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Audi-RS5-Has-422-hp.html

[Jimmy ny]

I think your wrong. I don't want to argue with you. Any RS5 is putting down stock 350 all wheel.


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[JamesRS5]

Lindw4ll, you will be very impressed with the results. I'm going back again this week to do a second set of results after the ECU adapts further but the initial figures were very good.

[JamesRS5]

WHP (wheel horsepower) IS what the car is actually putting to the ground. Thus why Brake HP/Crank HP/Flywheel HP is much higher than wheel, because the latter are pre-loss, unlike wheel.

I don't care to get into a big argument here. Just realize that no healthy RS is only putting 250awhp down. There is a near endless amount of dynos and data to show this. I still look forward to seeing your gains, though!

I'm puzzled, how can some tuners quote whp when the dyno is connected to the wheel hubs? There are losses through the tires too.

[LINDW4LL]

I'm puzzled, how can some tuners quote whp when the dyno is connected to the wheel hubs? There are losses through the tires too.

Most dynos are not connected to the wheel hubs, but rather just use rollers. The only US tuner I know of that has a hub dyno is APR, but you're right that they do quote horsepower at the wheels.

Technically wrong I suppose, but not a big deal IMO as the large majority of losses come from the transmission/drivetrain, and more importantly, the main objective of a dyno is simply to show the delta/gains pre and post-tune. Exact customer numbers will always vary slightly based on the conditions (weather), type of dyno, specific car, mods, etc...

[JamesRS5]

I will get a full explanation from the rolling road operator on the losses, you guys don't seem to use many Maha dyno's so maybe not used to seeing these results.

[melomandn]

Jimmy is on the mark here. With every dyno chart I've seen, the RS 5 consistently makes around 350whp. The B7 RS, without the improvements of the RS5's updated engine, would put down ~330whp when not hindered by carbon.

No RS5 is making 290whp unless it has something wrong with the engine, mad carbon buildup, or the dyno calibration is off.

This.

Also am I the only one who bothered to watch the video ECS put up? Very well put together and their dyno showed 370awhp.

James, I have never seen a MAHA dyno used here in the states. That's the issue were having here, we're comparing apples to oranges. Your numbers are going to be way off from ours because the dynos do not take the same measurements. On the average dyno here, as Lindw4ll said, a stock rs5 will do ~350awhp and a stock B8 S4 will do ~295awhp all day long. On the MAHA your RS5 did ~250awhp, now if you had the numbers from a stock B8 S4 then it would be easier for us to compare and figure out the difference between the two styles of dynos.

[LINDW4LL]

Ha! It was a well-done video by ECS.

Poor Jason@ECS- keeps having his threads derailed! Sorry!

[Jimmy ny]

Ha! It was a well-done video by ECS.

Poor Jason@ECS- keeps having his threads derailed! Sorry!

Ok. Does anybody else believe in or is interested in this intake? Eventuri is nice. I'm not putting it down. ECS is less money and much easier to get and telephone support if need be. Why does nobody like it. Both of these intakes did not re-invent the wheel.


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[zhclvn]

Do these intakes change the sound of the car? can you hear it sucking in more air?

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Do these intakes change the sound of the car? can you hear it sucking in more air?

Yes. There is definitely a change in sound. You can hear the engine breath. A nice throaty sound when you are in the throttle and when you rev it you can hear the engine pulling air through the filters/intake tubes.

Jason

[d1amund]

Are you sure that reading isn't in kW? I know the display says hp but if you take the well known wheel hp of about 350 and convert it to kW...it's 260.