ALP install on RS7/honeycomb grill

[tonymission]

I know SP4er and I were chatting about this in another thread, but didn't see anyone else chime in.
Does anyone have sensors installed on an RS7? Im thinking on the bottom corners (top side) of the fog light area below the headlights.
Maybe the third one on the inside top side of the bottom/ top (does that make sense? loL) of the "Quattro" CF area centered.

Looking for suggestions or pics of anyone who has done this. Don't really want to cut up the grill since I tend to keep cars for a year or so and it's already been a big pain in the ass with my drop, alp, tune and wheels getting this thing turned back in. Luckily, they've been really patient with me.

[dennisg]

The important thing to consider is that where you put the sensor is the center of a three foot circle of coverage of the front of your car (1.5 feet from the sensor itself to the edge of this "circle of coverage")

Since I was able to put mine inside the slats of the grill, I was able to optimize the positioning so that the 3 foot circles created by my positions cover the whole front of the car with only two sensors.

If I understand you correctly, it sounds like all three of your sensors will be low on the bumper and will probably not cover the upper part of the grill/bumper.

Here is a pic with optimal positions on my S6 to get away with only two sensors as recommended to me by Tom at Bestradardetectors.com:

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You should probably try to get them at least this high.

The sensors come with nice bracket, so although it is less than ideal, you could screw the brackets into the slats of the honeycomb of the grill and let the sensors stick out the front. That is of course probably unacceptable appearance wise, but it would work without visibly damaging the grill.

I have not been thinking about this stuff for a while, so I can't recall if it would be possible to mount the sensors behind the grill honeycomb without excessive interference. Probably not a good idea. I would ask Tom about it. He may have some solutions for you. I am not sure where you bought yours, but I think he is the US distributor, so he may offer support even if you bought it from another dealer.

[S6Express]

Where do you guys mount rear sensors?

Really thinking about doing this. Does ALP jam all lasers? I was looking at the Escort Laser ShiftrPro and it seems one kind of laser gun can still nail you.

[dennisg]

Where do you guys mount rear sensors?

Really thinking about doing this. Does ALP jam all lasers? I was looking at the Escort Laser ShiftrPro and it seems one kind of laser gun can still nail you.

On rear trunk lid. Rear is a good idea. Had a rear save last week. They sit in the median perpendicular to road and wait until you pass by to shoot you through their drivers side window.

Last I checked ALP was still the best. Had all the guns even the DragonEye which is the one other people could not get figured out, but things may have changed a bit. Call Tom at bestradardetectors.com. He sells everything and he is very helpful. He knows whats up.

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[agent47]

I have been putting this off for a long time. Both front and rear are important. Cops like to sit near the on ramps right after bridges and hit you on the back - experienced.. with a ticket

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[S6Express]

Thanks Dennis. Those blend well with a black car, but they'll look hideous on my Ibis White car. Is there a license plate mount or something of the like?

[dennisg]

Thanks Dennis. Those blend well with a black car, but they'll look hideous on my Ibis White car. Is there a license plate mount or something of the like?

Again, you must consider the coverage and the 3 foot circle. If you put it on the license plate you wont cover the whole rear of the car.

I don't think you will notice them that much. The underside of the trunk lid is black plastic, even on your car. They will just hang down a bit.

They are pretty small, another thing good about ALP. Other brands have much larger sensors.

[S6Express]

Again, you must consider the coverage and the 3 foot circle. If you put it on the license plate you wont cover the whole rear of the car.

I don't think you will notice them that much. The underside of the trunk lid is black plastic, even on your car. They will just hang down a bit.

They are pretty small, another thing good about ALP. Other brands have much larger sensors.

Great. Good to know. I'll give them a call. Do you guys use the bluetooth module? Doesn't seem like something that necessary.

[agent47]

What places install these ALP's? I called a stereo install place and the people were clueless.

Most of the reputable stereo shops do it (some local indy shops do it too). Sun valley stereo in PHX seems to have good reviews. Plus most of them advertise it as parking sensor installation .

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[tonymission]

Most of the reputable stereo shops do it (some local indy shops do it too). Sun valley stereo in PHX seems to have good reviews. Plus most of them advertise it as parking sensor installation .

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Pandi--Two most reputable places in Atlanta for this are CarTunes and Digital Car Audio so I'd say you're on the right track, just called the wrong outfit.
I'd maybe start on RDforum.org and see where people in your area go to.

[agent47]

Well, another shop with no clue what ALP is.

Thats weird. You just need to buy your own system and head to them. They would know how to install 'parking sensors'. Lol

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[pandi]

Thats weird. You just need to buy your own system and head to them. They would know how to install 'parking sensors'. Lol

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I told him it was a parking sensor/jammer and he said they don't do that.

[pandi]

I just called another place...

Me: Do you install laser jammers?

Female: Is that for a car?

Me: ____________________

[justcured]

Pandi,

Have you used the "contact us" page on ALP's website for a list of dealers in your area?

[justcured]

I looked for that on their site. I will try again. Thanks.

http://www.alpriorityusa.com/AL-Prio...nstallers.html

[agent47]

I just called another place...

Me: Do you install laser jammers?

Female: Is that for a car?

Me: ____________________

You should have been like "no mam, thats for the millenium falcon". Geez...

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[tonymission]

My car is going under the knife today... looks like even the slightest shave of the grill will fit them in there. Maybe even shave the actual sensor housing down a bit too. I think I want to try it, but we'll see what their tech recommends.
CarTunes is the best in Atlanta and the only ALP dealer, so I'm trusting them to pull it off. Doubt my dealership would even notice/care if the grill was barely altered whenever I trade back in.

[madyspop]

My car is going under the knife today... looks like even the slightest shave of the grill will fit them in there. Maybe even shave the actual sensor housing down a bit too. I think I want to try it, but we'll see what their tech recommends.
CarTunes is the best in Atlanta and the only ALP dealer, so I'm trusting them to pull it off. Doubt my dealership would even notice/care if the grill was barely altered whenever I trade back in.

Pics after the install please!!

[tonymission]

Pics after the install please!!

Will do! Think they convinced me to do center one above front diffuser (below quattro cutout - 14" from 4 rings) and the top of the fog light cutout areas is 12-13" from headlight so we determined that would be fine within the 18" radius of the sensor. So probably not going to see any secret honeycomb grill formula on this...

[tonymission]

They did cut a little but these will be easier to fix later if the dealer gives me a hard time even though I doubt they will. Awesome install, especially the inside stuff... light inside the vent, switch inside the center front compartment.
I do like the blend mount since mute button is easy access and not so obvious to LEO IMO.

[S4Per]

Looking good! Similar to my RS4 install. Would be good idea to get the fronts tested re are they too low or not. I just had my rears tested (same location as yours, but on S6) and it passed with flying colors, so I have no doubt you're good there.

[tonymission]

Looking good! Similar to my RS4 install. Would be good idea to get the fronts tested re are they too low or not. I just had my rears tested (same location as yours, but on S6) and it passed with flying colors, so I have no doubt you're good there.

They brought out their little laser gun and we hit it from all over. Aimed at headlights, the rings, etc... I'm pretty confident. We pre-measured as well as knowing there's 3' range or 18" radius from the sensor. I suppose I have some exposure somewhere, but not worried about it.
Have a bunch of driving tomorrow so you'll either hear back from me Monday when I get out of jail or later tomorrow night!


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[S4Per]

lol...
That's good for a basic functionality test, but - if possible, i.e. someone is in your area with a real Lidar gun (check on rdforum.org) - you should definitely get it tested to see how it performs in real life situations. Then you'll have full piece of mind :)

[tonymission]

lol...
That's good for a basic functionality test, but - if possible, i.e. someone is in your area with a real Lidar gun (check on rdforum.org) - you should definitely get it tested to see how it performs in real life situations. Then you'll have full piece of mind :)

Seems like the GA testing sessions are a couple times a year so I messaged some local testers and offered to pay for their time. Hopefully I get a bite...


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[tonymission]

Driving an hour each way to get it tested with 3 different lasers tomorrow morning. I have a 15 minute "commute" so looking forward to hitting the freeway and then getting out to the country a bit. Hopefully it all checks out and I can enjoy the drive home a little more.


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[tonymission]

We did about 30 different passes with four different guns (one Ka radar to test the 360max range) and he was unable to get a hit with any of them. Even when aiming at side mirrors or top of hood/windshield. Placement matters less than the actual sensors being level so I guess my installers did a good job there.
Radar had a range of over 2 miles with smaller hills and a pretty straight shot. 1.1 miles over much more adverse terrain. Plenty of time to alter speed or capture instant on technique on a vehicle in front of you.


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[S4Per]

Awesome ! Nothing like having that peace of mind :)


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[Thisisnoise]

Having a VIP stinger installed today , can't wait to try it out and put it through some testing - love the alp system you got , what did you use for radar ?






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[tonymission]

Having a VIP stinger installed today , can't wait to try it out and put it through some testing - love the alp system you got , what did you use for radar ?






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stinger, that's the big boy right? Like 4500? Admittedly I don't know much about it.. What makes it so expensive? Does it do laser jamming too?
I'm just using a max360 for radar... Much quieter than my max2 and average Ka range of 2 miles is good enough for me. Doesn't seem to go off nearly as much with blind spot monitoring. I know the redline has better range and there's probably better value than $650 for the max, but I'm pretty much covered so what the hell.


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[Thisisnoise]

About 6k installed but front and rear laser jamming aswell as radar detection all in one system with touch screen display . Was debating spending that much but with my lead foot and knowing I'm gonna keep this car a while figure will pay for itself


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[Thisisnoise]

Stinger fiber optic rear laser can you spot it ?


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[S4Per]

Sweet :) Here's a deal: throw me $6k and I'll rip out my ALP install that I just completed ;)

[Thisisnoise]

if you dont mind me asking how much did the alp run you ?


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[S4Per]

All said and done for 4 sensors, HiFi control module, extension cable: ~$1,275. Complimented with a Max360 radar detector for ~$580. I did the install myself, so no charge there.
Obviously different leagues here, but the ALP has been proven time and time again to be rock solid. If money were no option, I'd sure go Stinger, especially since I now see that the display fits into that storage compartment...that big display was a detractor for me before.

Good stuff...enjoy!

[zee007]

Stinger fiber optic rear laser can you spot it ?


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That's incredible.

[tonymission]

I have read on RD that the stinger isn't quite 100% foolproof yet, but they're updating the software aggressively and should be there soon.

My first ALP setup on the S6 with labor and 5 sensors was $2300. I paid $900 to remove from my S6 and put on the RS7.

[Thisisnoise]

Correct for anyone who searches the forms or ends up looking into installed radar/laser systems I researched both Alp and Stinger:

Alp: The best laser system you can buy right now hands down. Protection against all current laser threats for 1/3 of the price of stinger system also easier to transfer from car to car if you are on a lease. Only real small con is it lacks integrated radar so you are running two systems(radar and laser). If you use the bell stir i believe you loose some of its functionality with alp integration. Overall best value and best protection

Stinger: still having some kinks in the software for laser- but you get an all in one fully integrated system with future proof hardware , stealth install (see fiber optic pic above)color touch screen interface and the best radar detection avail. Would only recommend if you have money to burn and plan on keeping your car for a longlong time.

[jcopperthite]

I installed my rear one using the included mount underneath the license plate and bent at a 90 degree angle. As far as upfront, you do not want them behind the grill. no obstructions whatsoever. The need to be square and at a level position to ensure they work.

Thanks Dennis. Those blend well with a black car, but they'll look hideous on my Ibis White car. Is there a license plate mount or something of the like?