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    Blown oil pressure ruined my engine

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    So i purchased a 2006 Audi a4 2.0T less than year ago from a used car lot. Purchased as is no warranty. I still owe about $6000 on the car. The other day something in the oil pump/assembly went out and according to the shop the engine is dieing - not worth repairing. I was wondering what I should do? Im pretty lost as this is my first used car purchase. I really like Audis but this kind of soured my reputation. Shop said theyd switch out the oil with really thick oil and i could drive it to my house. Will used car lots take this as a trade in?

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    And by dying they meant there was metal flakes in the oil so he assumed rod bearing breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanyjonny View Post
    And by dying they meant there was metal flakes in the oil so he assumed rod bearing breakdown.
    Did you take it to an Audi shop or a general auto repair place?

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    Euro repair place

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    Said hes gonna change the oil/filter with 5-60 oil and it could make it to a used car place and he recommended seeing if they'd take it as trade in

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    Take it to an Audi shop. I made the same mistake of taking my car to a German auto repair facility and they screwed things up so badly that it ended up in court. By taking it to a shop that specializes in VW/Audi you'll get a clear diagnosis. You definitely want a second opinion anyway since the issue appears to be serious so get it to and Audi place. If I remember correctly, you once said you're in Houston. This place has a good reputation among Audizine users in your area: http://www.reisumotorsports.com

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    You have already been advised in your other threads. Buy a used engine. It is worth next to nothing with a fucked up motor.

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    Swap the engine out its not that hard. i did it

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    see if its Cam follower, if it is and its an 06 you might be lucky
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    If you got low oil pressure there's like a 1% chance your motor isn't fucked. Trade it in well it still runs IMO.


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    If you like the car, buy another engine for it. If you plan on going big turbo someday, build the motor now. If you want to get rid of the car, trade it in while still running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAudi View Post
    see if its Cam follower, if it is and its an 06 you might be lucky
    Yes!! Do what he said ASAP. You might get a new engine out of this if the metal fragments really ruined a whole lot in there.
    The warranty program is for 10yrs/120k miles.

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    Your repair shop is screwing you. Did they even remove the oil pan to inspect things or did they just drain the oil and assume rod bearing breakdown based on the presence of metal flakes? Get it to an Audi shop for a second opinion, seriously. If you don't intend to take it to a proper Audi mechanic I suggest selling it and buying a Ford so that any clown with a socket set can fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KJack View Post
    Your repair shop is screwing you. Did they even remove the oil pan to inspect things or did they just drain the oil and assume rod bearing breakdown based on the presence of metal flakes? Get it to an Audi shop for a second opinion, seriously. If you don't intend to take it to a proper Audi mechanic I suggest selling it and buying a Ford so that any clown with a socket set can fix it.
    ^^^this...like i said in your other thread, are they sure the flakes aren't just from your oil pump?
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    Im with the other guys who say check the cam follower. If it is the cam follower, call AOA and give them your vin# and find out the "in service date" for your car. You may be in luck and not have the 10 years run out yet.
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    If pump is the issue and not increased bearing clerances, then running thicker oil is even worse to run. Picture a screwed pump trying to pump even thicker than recommended liquid through small journals and clearances. Thicker oil is supposed to be used for when clearances increase betwen bearings and journals. Get a real diagnoses and don't start the car till then. Meaning, even have it towed to a shop. If you don't have AAA, a friend should. They only require someone there with a card. They care less whose car it is.
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    Well I got the car and it honestly drives the same as it used to, pretty normally. He said the reason he thinks its rod bearing break down is because its gold/copper flakes. Not normal metallic flakes. Driving it to a Nissan dealership tommorrow, found fairly nice 2010 A4 2.0T Quattro premium, anyone have any input on these? I also still owe about $6000 on my current car think theyll take it as a trade in for that amount and pay the loan? Car runs fine has no errors or low pressure and if you drive it cant tell theres anything wrong with it.

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    Blown oil pressure ruined my engine

    Some of the B8's have HORRIBLE oil consumption issues. Read up on it before you make a decision.
    And if you can get $6k from the dealer, take it and run cauz you'll be lucky.
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    90% of the people that post on this site either do their own repair work or have repairs done by Audi-specific shops. If you aren't comfortable with either of those options I would advise against buying another Audi. They are fun cars to drive but they simply can't be trusted with the local "all makes" repair shop. When I was looking at Audis I came across one whose carfax showed a history of maintenance done by Jiffy Lube and it had green coolant in the reservoir. Don't be that guy. If you own an Audi, take care of it the right way, otherwise you'll be in for a world of financial heartache.

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    Best advice is trade in quick...dump it. Then get another B7 that has been taken care of.

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    Yep thats what im doing tomorrow B8 though, found 2010 a4 2.0T premium w/ 60,000 miles at a Nissan dealership. Said they just need to replace the fuel injectors and its good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanyjonny View Post
    Yep thats what im doing tomorrow B8 though, found 2010 a4 2.0T premium w/ 60,000 miles at a Nissan dealership. Said they just need to replace the fuel injectors and its good to go.
    and they will give you 6k for the one you trade in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KJack View Post
    90% of the people that post on this site either do their own repair work or have repairs done by Audi-specific shops. If you aren't comfortable with either of those options I would advise against buying another Audi. They are fun cars to drive but they simply can't be trusted with the local "all makes" repair shop. When I was looking at Audis I came across one whose carfax showed a history of maintenance done by Jiffy Lube and it had green coolant in the reservoir. Don't be that guy. If you own an Audi, take care of it the right way, otherwise you'll be in for a world of financial heartache.
    Perfectly put. There is a reason consumer reports names b7 '05-06 as a car to avoid. With good oil and cam follower change history they are pretty reliable. But that history is hard to find.
    I have a friend who makes a pretty good living on the side doing b6 and early b7 engine/cam repairs. He's got it down I swear he does it with his eyes closed from doing so many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanyjonny View Post
    Yep thats what im doing tomorrow B8 though, found 2010 a4 2.0T premium w/ 60,000 miles at a Nissan dealership. Said they just need to replace the fuel injectors and its good to go.
    Trading in for another Audi at a nissan dealership? For a car that needs injectors at 60k? Oh boy.

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    Have it checked out by a knowledgeable Audi mechanic. I'd definitely have a complete Vag Com scan done and probably a compression test too to make sure the piston rings are good since that has been a problem with that year A4. Or you can just take the used car dealer's word for it and kick yourself it the keister when you find yourself going through a quart of oil every 500 miles in the next month or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanyjonny View Post
    Yep thats what im doing tomorrow B8 though, found 2010 a4 2.0T premium w/ 60,000 miles at a Nissan dealership. Said they just need to replace the fuel injectors and its good to go.
    Did you bother to ask why it needs new injectors? Cars don't "just need new injectors" for nonchalant reasons if it truly is the case. I think you're about to get into another problem-mobile. Hope everything turns out well for you though.

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    Any update on this purchase lol?

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    Blown oil pressure ruined my engine

    That sounds highly suspicious given the rampant piston ring issues of the early b8s. Just needs new injectors my ass.
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    the oil pump crapped out. you got the flashing light showing it, right? this happened to me to. the cam follower was worn right through so i suspect a failed cam follower and fuel pump can cause the oil pump to fail.

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    Sorry for my ignorance but how does a worn follower affect the oil pump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okedokey View Post
    Any update on this purchase lol?
    Check the B8 forums, he'll probably be in there with some new post about "engine not getting any gas, 'euro' mechanic said head gasket is blown, can I drive it with race fuel and trade it in for a new car?"
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    Blown oil pressure ruined my engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Okedokey View Post
    Sorry for my ignorance but how does a worn follower affect the oil pump
    Metal gets into the oil and wears out the pump internals. It affects it indirectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDX04a4 View Post
    Check the B8 forums, he'll probably be in there with some new post about "engine not getting any gas, 'euro' mechanic said head gasket is blown, can I drive it with race fuel and trade it in for a new car?"
    Actually checked the B8 forums for giggles and sure enough he bought it from the Nissan dealership!


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    Quote Originally Posted by seandon_792 View Post
    Actually checked the B8 forums for giggles and sure enough he bought it from the Nissan dealership!


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    Oh Jeeze. I mean hopefully in his case it's fine but I'm skeptical, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    Metal gets into the oil and wears out the pump internals. It affects it indirectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    Metal gets into the oil and wears out the pump internals. It affects it indirectly.
    Would audi have to replace your oil pump at this point? If your work was done under warranty for the cam follower? Hmm I mean I already bought the pump and all. Once I get my stripped bolt off the crank pulley (serpentine belt pulley) I will know if my crank shaft journals are fucked or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeoj112689 View Post
    Would audi have to replace your oil pump at this point? If your work was done under warranty for the cam follower? Hmm I mean I already bought the pump and all. Once I get my stripped bolt off the crank pulley (serpentine belt pulley) I will know if my crank shaft journals are fucked or not.
    you would have to be the luckiest man on earth to get the flashing light for low oil pressure and only have your oil pump fail and not have the engine ruined. the best thing to do to a 2.0T engine is to replace the oil pump every 100k miles and check the cam follower every now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esandes View Post
    you would have to be the luckiest man on earth to get the flashing light for low oil pressure and only have your oil pump fail and not have the engine ruined. the best thing to do to a 2.0T engine is to replace the oil pump every 100k miles and check the cam follower every now and then.
    Well I got it at 5 mph, on a cold day(5F), cold start, and turned my car off instantly.
    I pulled the pump and it is not seized. Haven't looked at the bearings yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanyjonny View Post
    Yep thats what im doing tomorrow B8 though, found 2010 a4 2.0T premium w/ 60,000 miles at a Nissan dealership. Said they just need to replace the fuel injectors and its good to go.
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