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    S6 or S7

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    Hello,


    Cant decide, maybe someone who has driven them can advise witch one is more planted, stiffer, direct, sportier, fun and better to drive - handle?


    Any advice is welcome,


    Thanks

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    Technically they are the same car. One shouldnt drive significantly more different than the other, even though some might say there is. You will hear the exhaust more(if you get sport exhaust) in the S7 because of the open hatch design. You feel like you sit lower in the S7 for some reason. You pay a premium for the S7 over the S6 for the design.
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    ....and 4 seats in S7 vs 5 in S6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4Per View Post
    ....and 4 seats in S7 vs 5 in S6.
    That too.
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    They are fundamentally the same car and the difference in driving characteristic might be there from different body but it's very insignificant. You pretty much choose the design and number of seats.
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    They're built on similar platforms, but aren't exactly the same.

    For example the S7's front and rear track width measurements are 64.7" and 64.4". The S6's numbers are 63.6" and 63.2"

    S7's steering ratio is also very slightly quicker: 15.9:1 vs 16.1:1.

    There's a $10-14K difference in price, too...
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    The cars drive differently. Period.

    I've had this discussion with HyperM3 many times. The 7 feels inherently sportier than the 6. I don't know if it's the lowered ride height or slightly extra width, the car feels more planted when driving.

    You give up a seat in the 7 but gain a tremendous amount of utility because of the hatchback design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaws12audi View Post
    The cars drive differently. Period.

    I've had this discussion with HyperM3 many times. The 7 feels inherently sportier than the 6. I don't know if it's the lowered ride height or slightly extra width, the car feels more planted when driving.

    You give up a seat in the 7 but gain a tremendous amount of utility because of the hatchback design.
    Gotta agree with you. There is whole lot of difference between the 6 & 7 . The 7 feels more tight and planted compared to the 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperM3 View Post
    Technically they are the same car. One shouldnt drive significantly more different than the other, even though some might say there is. You will hear the exhaust more(if you get sport exhaust) in the S7 because of the open hatch design. You feel like you sit lower in the S7 for some reason. You pay a premium for the S7 over the S6 for the design.
    I drove both back to back when considering upgrade to 2016, the S7 definitely had a more nimble feel and drove better

    The S6 felt a bit smoother (read: not as firm or planted)
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4Per View Post
    ....and 4 seats in S7 vs 5 in S6.
    ...and S6 has more rear headroom than S7.

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    S6 considerably less $ and pushed me to the 6. Happy with the choice.


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    Btw, there should be differences.

    Look at any manufacturer that shares chassis and drivetrain amongst models (BMW 5 - BMW 6, Audi 3 - Audi TT, MB C - MB E Coupe, etc...) and they all have different feel and are tuned to feel either more sporty, more luxurious, or more economical.

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    The S6 weighs less (100-110 LBS) which in many magazines gives it a 0.1 second (negligible) advantage in acceleration tests. While narrower, I've actually read most editorial publications say the S6 feels nimbler.

    Here's one video comparison (link to comment, there's one at the end as well):
    https://youtu.be/LHbJz64RUL0?t=388
    "The S6 just felt a little more raw, visceral, it just felt a little more alive" (summary of comments)

    http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/12/w...udis-s6-or-s7/
    "Despite sharing the identical electromechanical servotronic speed sensitive steering, the system in the S6 delivered a more direct feel and effort felt slightly heavier. The S7 steering felt marginally lighter and less accurate. The S6 felt more balanced in the corners, even though it was the narrower and taller of the two. Mid-corner corrections were more stable in the S6, as the additional weight over the rear of the S7 caused a tiny oscillation as it corrected itself in the same maneuver."

    http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/t...0S6%20and%20S7
    "It should be noted, though, that the S6 and S7 are not identical twins. Despite running identical running gear and suspension set-ups, the different bodies (in particular the S7's extra weight) make the cars feel subtly different from one another. Of the two, it is the S6 that feels marginally more taut and sharp in its responses, the heavier body in the S7 giving it a little more lean in corners, and dulling its responses a touch."

    http://www.ridelust.com/2013-audi-s6...t-first-drive/
    "As comfortable and well-equipped as the interiors may be, Audi’s S Models are all about driving dynamics. As previously mentioned, each has a distinctive personality, with the S6 being the most sporting in nature"

    "We prefer our cars with a bit of a harder edge, so the S6 was our hands-down favorite"

    I can't recall the other reviews, but I've read one somewhere that states the S7 felt sportier, but I've definitely read more about the S6 somehow feeling sportier/more raw/etc, especially in terms of steering.

    Ultimately, you're splitting hairs. Either you want to more traditional sedan lines or the hatchback utility and style. Personally, I think the A7/S7 rear boxes out too much and looks droopy. I think the BMW 6 Grand Coupe is a much sexier looking execution of the 4dr coupe, but I do venture to say that the popular vote of people like the hatch style better. I do not though (I would take a M6 Grand Coupe over M5 though, so it's not an issue against hatches, just the Audi execution).

    Make your decision based on looks, utility and price...
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    Dunno, but you may as well test drive the hell out of 'em both since you're on a deserted island.
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    Form a driving perspective these are virtually the same car until you get up to serious track speeds. In that particular case I have heard it both ways...S6 sharper and S7 sharper. This basically says to me that they drive the same. Buy the car that you like the most in terms of styling and/or practicality. For me, the S7 looked just a little big, and the rear end styling just doesn't do it for me. I have also used the 5 seats in my S6 not infrequently.
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    I considered both. If the S7 seated 5 it would have been a easy choice based on styling. Now that I own the S6 I appreciate the convenience of a 360 surround camera, the sleeper feature of the S6 and yes the ability to seat 5 has been a necessity about 15 times since I bought the car in June.

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    my two cents after owning an rs6 for 9 years, I sold an suv and the 6 for the 7. It is the perfect combination of utility and sport with the hatch as I used it to help in my move into a new home. It still stops traffic with it's looks. I have put 10k miles on this car in a few month and with the tunes it is almost the perfect vehicle. It gets 23 mpg at 90 mph, comes close to the performance of a new z06 and I can take two buddies and three golf bags.
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    Test drive both see which one you like more, i drive both before i got my s7 and 7 sits lower thus feel sportier but the 7 looks thousand times better than 6.

    In my opinion Audi 7 is the best design looking car even better than R8. Only angle look average is on the side rest are epicly sexy.

    No offense but S6 looks like longer version of S4 most people cant tell the difference. Lot of people haven't see the unique shape line of 7 and people compliment you for such a nice car.

    S6 have 1 more seat, surround camera, smaller boot, more rear head room, lot cheaper, less weight thus tiny bit faster

    For me the uniqueness and sexy look convinced me for the S7



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    serious the rear and the wing mind blowing loluploadfromtaptalk1451999546142.jpguploadfromtaptalk1451999577616.jpg

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    Please notice that almost every comment above promotes the model the commentator owns.

    That in itself should answer your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithonehand View Post

    In my opinion Audi 7 is the best design looking car even better than R8.



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    IMHO ... I would have to disagree with that statement. I've owned both and believe me .... the R8 is a stunner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianV View Post
    The S6 weighs less (100-110 LBS) which in many magazines gives it a 0.1 second (negligible) advantage in acceleration tests. While narrower, I've actually read most editorial publications say the S6 feels nimbler.

    Here's one video comparison (link to comment, there's one at the end as well):
    https://youtu.be/LHbJz64RUL0?t=388
    "The S6 just felt a little more raw, visceral, it just felt a little more alive" (summary of comments)

    http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/12/w...udis-s6-or-s7/
    "Despite sharing the identical electromechanical servotronic speed sensitive steering, the system in the S6 delivered a more direct feel and effort felt slightly heavier. The S7 steering felt marginally lighter and less accurate. The S6 felt more balanced in the corners, even though it was the narrower and taller of the two. Mid-corner corrections were more stable in the S6, as the additional weight over the rear of the S7 caused a tiny oscillation as it corrected itself in the same maneuver."

    http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/t...0S6%20and%20S7
    "It should be noted, though, that the S6 and S7 are not identical twins. Despite running identical running gear and suspension set-ups, the different bodies (in particular the S7's extra weight) make the cars feel subtly different from one another. Of the two, it is the S6 that feels marginally more taut and sharp in its responses, the heavier body in the S7 giving it a little more lean in corners, and dulling its responses a touch."

    http://www.ridelust.com/2013-audi-s6...t-first-drive/
    "As comfortable and well-equipped as the interiors may be, Audi’s S Models are all about driving dynamics. As previously mentioned, each has a distinctive personality, with the S6 being the most sporting in nature"

    "We prefer our cars with a bit of a harder edge, so the S6 was our hands-down favorite"

    I can't recall the other reviews, but I've read one somewhere that states the S7 felt sportier, but I've definitely read more about the S6 somehow feeling sportier/more raw/etc, especially in terms of steering.

    Ultimately, you're splitting hairs. Either you want to more traditional sedan lines or the hatchback utility and style. Personally, I think the A7/S7 rear boxes out too much and looks droopy. I think the BMW 6 Grand Coupe is a much sexier looking execution of the 4dr coupe, but I do venture to say that the popular vote of people like the hatch style better. I do not though (I would take a M6 Grand Coupe over M5 though, so it's not an issue against hatches, just the Audi execution).

    Make your decision based on looks, utility and price...
    I was going to say, most reviewers that I saw drive both said the S6 felt like the more planted and nimble car...
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    Pretty predictable comments. The 6 owners say their car is a better handler and the 7 owners say the reverse.
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    Mine is better
    NO MINE IS
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    Loop back and repeat.

    They are both boats! Albeit very fast, comfortable and good looking boats. Nimble is not a word I'd ever use to describe either of them.

    I think the S7 is a better looking car, but went with the S6. Performance is the same IMHO, but the 6 handled better and I need room for 5 once in a while.

    Can't go wrong with any Audi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodstock964gt3 View Post
    Nimble is not a word I'd ever use to describe either of them.
    +1

    If you want nimble, you're shopping the wrong space. If you want a rocket-couch, on the other hand…

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodstock964gt3 View Post
    Mine is better
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    Loop back and repeat.

    They are both boats! Albeit very fast, comfortable and good looking boats. Nimble is not a word I'd ever use to describe either of them.

    I think the S7 is a better looking car, but went with the S6. Performance is the same IMHO, but the 6 handled better and I need room for 5 once in a while.

    Can't go wrong with any Audi.
    Weird, others say that s7 handles better and feels more planted. Go figure whats wright or wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by audi12345678 View Post
    Weird, others say that s7 handles better and feels more planted. Go figure whats wright or wrong
    Answer is: Don't matter what others think, what is your preference? Pretty expensive decision to allow others to make.

    How was your test drive(s)? You willing to pay the premium for the 7? Whadyathink?

    As others indicate, these aren't spinners. The tip out at speed in curves is pretty bad until lowering a bit, and adding the EC swaybars, and say wider/stickier rubber. Add that to your acquisition cost if "planted" is an objective. IIRC, Autobahn Rocket is the objective, in that Audi nailed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDevil View Post
    IMHO ... I would have to disagree with that statement. I've owned both and believe me .... the R8 is a stunner.
    Dont get me wrong love the R8 but for my taste front is too flat, interior is dated and car is hard to tune.

    The new R8 however tick all the boxes

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    Its pretty clear that if you dont feel s7 look 10 to 15k better than the S6 then S6 is alot better that provide with lot of aspect s7 dont have.

    1 more seat, surround camera, more rear head room, lot cheaper, less weight thus tiny bit faster


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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBadman View Post
    They are fundamentally the same car and the difference in driving characteristic might be there from different body but it's very insignificant. You pretty much choose the design and number of seats.
    Seems like s6 and s7 are to soft and boring for me, have to go and get rs7. With Rs6-Rs7 you don't need any stupid chips, tunes, you get the perfect car from the stock.
    Thanks for the advices!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosehead1 View Post


    Dunno, but you may as well test drive the hell out of 'em both since you're on a deserted island.
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    The S7 'felt' bigger when driving it. Great car, but the headroom in the back was a severe minus for me. I take corn-fed mid western clients around and the 6 gave me a little more room in the back (I should be owning the S8 Sport!). But that said, my wife vetoed the 7's looks, which ultimately allowed me to invest in the S6. I think the S7 is a sharp looking car, if I had my own way, that would be the one I'd get.

    Besides, the S7 has a FREGGIN WING! Who doesn't want that???
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    [QUOTE=ImpartialFocus;11308095]The S7 'felt' bigger when driving it. Great car, but the headroom in the back was a severe minus for me. I take corn-fed mid western clients around and the 6 gave me a little more room in the back (I should be owning the S8 Sport!). But that said, my wife vetoed the 7's looks, which ultimately allowed me to invest in the S6. I think the S7 is a sharp looking car, if I had my own way, that would be the one I'd get.

    Besides, the S7 has a FREGGIN WING! Who doesn't want that???[:
    I we compare porsche panamera gts and audi rs7?

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    7 has horrible rear end... just too ugly for my taste, hence 6 won too bad they didn't make RS6 sedan... that would be my choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImpartialFocus View Post
    The S7 'felt' bigger when driving it. Great car, but the headroom in the back was a severe minus for me. I take corn-fed mid western clients around and the 6 gave me a little more room in the back (I should be owning the S8 Sport!). But that said, my wife vetoed the 7's looks, which ultimately allowed me to invest in the S6. I think the S7 is a sharp looking car, if I had my own way, that would be the one I'd get.

    Besides, the S7 has a FREGGIN WING! Who doesn't want that???
    Your wife should seriously reconsider.
    There is a LOT more room in the S7 trunk................for her.

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