Local 9PDX) Locksmith that can cut the VAG "Switch Blade" keys

[cjonesinbgwa]

Hello everyone,


I was wondering if anyone knew of a Portland/Vancouver area locksmith that can cut the "switch blade" keys for an Audi (B6 S4)/
I received two new blank/fobs for Christmas. I think I may be able to program them myself using a generic Hex-Can cable and VCDS, but I don't want to have to have pay an Audi Dealer to do the whole thing.

I have seen references that some locksmiths and even some Home Depot/Lowes have the newer machines that can cut the switch blade keys.

Anyone local have experience with this task?

[CupcakeS5]

You are going to run into issues with the immobilizer if you don't have the FOB programmed to your cluster. It's not a DIY thing - typically the dealer needs to do this because we car owners can no longer obtain the SKC code necessary to do this ourselves.

[viciousone]

You can always take out the original blades from your old key fob and put it in your new ones.....but then again you will need to be able to get the remotes programmed.

[cjonesinbgwa]

Looks like I need to do some more reading.


This was the source I was going to use to program the new FOBs:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...mming-with-VAG


I do see a reference to a "Remote Control Matching" thread on the Ross-Tech site:

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/car...-matching.html

And the Remote matching page clearly states that This does NOT show how to match Immobilizer components, see other items on the "Car Info & Procedures Page" to do that.

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/index.html

Which in turn has a link to Immobilizer info for VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer

Assuming I have the Gen 3 immobilizer, this excerpt from the Ross-Tech site has a few methods. I will do some more reading. Reading is free, maybe I'll get lucky and not have to go to the dealer. Then again maybe I'm just fooling myself, but I am sure to learn something along the way.


Copied from the Ross-Tech site
[Immobilizer Generation 3
Many 2002 and newer Model Year vehicles sold in the North American Region (NAR) have Immobilizer 3 and there are other Rest of World (RoW) Vehicles with Immobilizer 3 as well. Use VCDS to Select the Instrument Cluster (or Address 25 - Immobilizer in Vehicles with a separate Immobilizer Control Module) and look in the Extra Field. You should see BOTH a 14 digit Immobilizer ID number and ALSO a 17 digit VIN number in the Extra fields like this: WVZKB58001H231169 VWZ7Z0W0648696. The first 17-digit string is the VIN and the second 14-digit string in the Immobilizer ID. Keys that have been previously matched to a different Immobilizer 3 System cannot be reused with another one (which has a different Immobilizer ID). In some cases, you'll need to check in the Engine Control Module in Measuring Value Block (MVB) 081 to see the VIN and Immobilizer ID. If in doubt, check the Factory Repair Manual for your specific vehicle.

Key Matching (through Instrument Cluster)
Key Matching (through separate Control Module)
Key Matching (through Kessy)
Engine Control Unit (ECU) Swapping
Injection Pump Swapping (V6 TDI only)
Immobilizer Control Module Swapping (integrated in Instrument Cluster)
Immobilizer III Immobilizer Swapping (Separate)|Immobilizer Control Module Swapping (integrated in separate Control Module)
Immobilizer Control Module Swapping (integrated in Kessy)
Immobilizer III Measuring Blocks (Ross-Tech Website)I][/I]

[jeremy@matrix]

You can contact Chad at SOS Diagnostics. He can at least cut the key blades for you; http://sosdiagnostics.com/contact.html
I don't believe he can do the key coding for immobilizer, but ask him.

[rollerton]

If you have a spare you can mail it to http://bulgerlock.com/ and they'll copy and return it to you.
Remote matching is easy, shouldn't have a problem with that if you have the right remote.
Immo is easy too, just need a couple pieces of software and a Hex-Can cable. I do it all the time, ECU's, Clusters w/ Odometer correction, keys...not so technical these days.
All these systems eventually get hacked.