Just had a play in a 2015 RS5 finally

[jamin_00]

Found out a few weeks back my cousin who we do not see often has one and they came over today so finally got to play in one and play with him when in mine. Looks great on Glacier white.

Needless to say what a stunning pice of machinery but I can now confirm that the stage 2 bespoke map I have left the RS5 lacking somewhat. After hearing that the stage 2 lacks upper end torque I can only come to the conclusion that the owners of these stage 2 cars have a poor stage 2 map as that was certainly not the case here. The RS5 was not as quick off the line nor at any point did it even match my performance. It is close but I had the edge every time and tbh, when I was driving it it did feel like it had more grunt but it must just have been due to the sound as on the road it was just not the case.
He has now just gone shopping to Bluewater so when he comes back we gonna get some pics.

Great car and I really like it and would very happily swap mine now for an RS. Hmm, decisions decisions lol, what a weapon. I can't describe it, it feels so special and inspiring to drive but when I was in mine it just didn't seem to have the performance it feels like it has, does that make sense?

Trip to Audi I think is on the cards to have a looksie as to what is about. With a suspension mod, brake upgrade and a few little tweaks I would be a little bit happy lol :)

Oh, and he could not believe what could be had in the S5. He couldn't believe how quick it was and how tight it felt when driving at speed. But regardless of everything I have done and albeit a quicker car, its still not an RS and feel that is different is there.


Audi have really got it spot on with both the S and the RS. Us 5 owners should be very proud and happy as to the amazing cars we have :)

[JamesRS5]

Jamin, I go out in my friends Golf R and it feels quick compared to the RS, you simply can't compare the low down torque surge you get from a blown car to a revvy naturally aspirated motor, they deliver at opposite ends of the rev range.

Remember, there's nothing you can do to the RS to make it any quicker, an exhaust and now the intake options are your limit (20hp gain) which won't have much of an impact on the performance, remember that if you're seriously tempted, it will never match the performance you feel now.
Also, you have to work the RS to make it move, yours with lots of low down torque will be an easy car to drive quickly, the RS has to be worked and kept above 4000rpm to make it feel quick. Also remember, the RS gives its performance in a completely standard car, you've probably spent £10k+ on tuning to make it feel the way it does.

[doug97gxe]

Jamin, I go out in my friends Golf R and it feels quick compared to the RS, you simply can't compare the low down torque surge you get from a blown car to a revvy naturally aspirated motor, they deliver at opposite ends of the rev range.

Remember, there's nothing you can do to the RS to make it any quicker, an exhaust and now the intake options are your limit (20hp gain) which won't have much of an impact on the performance, remember that if you're seriously tempted, it will never match the performance you feel now.
Also, you have to work the RS to make it move, yours with lots of low down torque will be an easy car to drive quickly, the RS has to be worked and kept above 4000rpm to make it feel quick. Also remember, the RS gives its performance in a completely standard car, you've probably spent £10k+ on tuning to make it feel the way it does.

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[JamesRS5]

Doug, unless they are giving the KW suspension away in the UK, that's £2k on its own.

I'm not talking just the ECU tune, I mean make the car 'feel' the way it does, the feeling Jamin has when he looks at it and drives it.

I'm trying to give the positives and negatives to someone who's shown an interest in the cars.

[doug97gxe]

Doug, unless they are giving the KW suspension away in the UK, that's £2k on its own.

I'm not talking just the ECU tune, I mean make the car 'feel' the way it does, the feeling Jamin has when he looks at it and drives it.

I'm trying to give the positives and negatives to someone who's shown an interest in the cars.

oh you said tuning .. that's why i corrected that

[JamesRS5]

Sorry, I just meant altering the car to make the way it is.

[namvar]

I'm a little confused Jamin. Why would you go and spend all that money on a car that, according to your post, is lacking.

[doug97gxe]

Sorry, I just meant altering the car to make the way it is.

after i read your response i kinda understand where you're coming from.. its like with motorcycles when you get suspension mods you have it tuned to your weight.. i get it.. just around here when you say tuning.. it usually applies to ECU

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I'm a little confused Jamin. Why would you go and spend all that money on a car that, according to your post, is lacking.

i think its lacking in performance however its better in stature and presence

[jamin_00]

Jamin, I go out in my friends Golf R and it feels quick compared to the RS, you simply can't compare the low down torque surge you get from a blown car to a revvy naturally aspirated motor, they deliver at opposite ends of the rev range.

Remember, there's nothing you can do to the RS to make it any quicker, an exhaust and now the intake options are your limit (20hp gain) which won't have much of an impact on the performance, remember that if you're seriously tempted, it will never match the performance you feel now.
Also, you have to work the RS to make it move, yours with lots of low down torque will be an easy car to drive quickly, the RS has to be worked and kept above 4000rpm to make it feel quick. Also remember, the RS gives its performance in a completely standard car, you've probably spent £10k+ on tuning to make it feel the way it does.

And the rest lol :) But I love it.

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Yep, stage 2 and S Tronic map at MRC.

Doug, unless they are giving the KW suspension away in the UK, that's £2k on its own.

I'm not talking just the ECU tune, I mean make the car 'feel' the way it does, the feeling Jamin has when he looks at it and drives it.

I'm trying to give the positives and negatives to someone who's shown an interest in the cars.

The KW DDC ECU with wifi is about £3k plus fitting. I appreciate the advice of course and I might have just been a little bit excited to be in the RS5 and to actually drive and race one that I did not get a real feel for it but it did feel special and I don't like the idea of driving it hard to go fast. Like you say, mine is effortless, floor it and it throws you back in the seats and takes off.

I'm a little confused Jamin. Why would you go and spend all that money on a car that, according to your post, is lacking.

You misunderstand me, I mean the RS5 just had that special feel to it, I can't quite explain it tbh compared to the S which is certainly not lacking by any means. It just as Doug say I guess does not have the stature and presence of the RS5 although in its current form is a faster and better handling car. I'd happily spend more on it and right now with everything that has gone on it and off including all the wheels and tyres I brought I done close to £25k now since I got it at the end of March and don't regret a penny of it :)

Both epic cars and the S just has so much more potential. TBH, now the excitement has gone, it would be a waste of money to get the RS for me as they are more money to start with and then it would need mods for me. But now after this I will most certainly be looking at the new one as long as it FI :)

[namvar]

There are only two mods I want to do. The intakes and the exhaust. However, not being that mechanically inclined the idea of having to take out the intake before every visit to the audi service center is very painful. And I'm also not too sure about it all ring worth it to get only 20 bhp out of it.


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[JamesRS5]

and better handling car.

Was this a DRC equipped RS5? I'm not sure the KW kit can offer the same performance of the DRC system?

[jamin_00]

Yes mate. The Adjustable suspension wasn't as solid just on the road so I imagine the difference old be even greater on track. More body roll was instantly noticeable. The comfort mode on the kW is way more softer and is too soft imp but it's fully adjustable from bouncy soft right up to solid and its bone shaking solid and every bit in between. Much better performance and 97 x more adjustable lol. Not only can you go from 0-100 but also have a 30% difference between front and rear which helps as we all know with the dreaded under steer.


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[JamesRS5]

Strange, in dynamic mode I have zero body roll and the chassis is rock solid, it's not comfortable for road use. Comfort mode has some roll to a certain degree but even pushing on through a corner doesn't induce much roll at all. Go into the MMI and double check there is 'suspension' in the Individual settings. If you were in Dynamic and you felt it was soft and had body roll then it wasn DRC or it's got problems!

[jamin_00]

Yes mate but have you tried the solid mode (100%) in the DDC setup, then you will know what solid is, trust me, it doesn't compare, its not strange just not solid compared to it. I didn't say it felt soft, just not as solid :)

Even Paul said when he drove mine it was too stiff which it is for road driving as any slight bump in the road when going fast the car skips, its for track only imo when its set on 100%. Same with the PSS10's, when I set that to 10 to go to a trackday you couldn't drive fast on the road as it was pathetic, until you got on track.

Comfort mode on the DDC is pathetic, miles to soft, you drive hard round a bend and you'll get seasick lol but it does get a little stiffer with speed but so far I only seen it go up to 19%. I tend to have it around 30% for a decent comfort drive that can handle bends at speed to a degree but Im still playing with changing the numbers for my ultimate set up but the sweet thing is just the touch of a button and its switched modes

[AirmattRS5]

Yes mate. The Adjustable suspension wasn't as solid just on the road so I imagine the difference old be even greater on track. More body roll was instantly noticeable. The comfort mode on the kW is way more softer and is too soft imp but it's fully adjustable from bouncy soft right up to solid and its bone shaking solid and every bit in between. Much better performance and 97 x more adjustable lol. Not only can you go from 0-100 but also have a 30% difference between front and rear which helps as we all know with the dreaded under steer.


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Since it wasn't your car, i take it that you didnt press it hard enough. The car will understeer a bit and roll around if you corner at a slow speed (being that the weight is front bias), but if you go fast enough where torque vectoring can kick in, it is noticeably apparent.

[jamin_00]

I pushed it yes as Im comfortable with my driving on the ride plus I tried to keep up with him in mine lol. Im no LH for sure but Im confident in my driving to push his car and as it didn't feel as powerful I was even more confident in pushing it.

I didn't notice any understeer and tbh I have only ever noticed the understeer in mine on track really but Paul said just driving out off my road and round the corner that the ride was much more solid lol. Trust me, the difference between the 2 was instantly noticeable lol. Solid is solid, and the dynamic mode is not solid, it is very stiff but not solid. Having drove both the difference is there plain to see and Paul agreed as I said he commented immediately just going round the corner and over a few speed bumps.

[Jimmy ny]

I had a s5 with stasis tune and exhaust intake & kw v1. I like my RS much better. Car looks much more substantial. For me performance is better in my RS as well.


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[doug97gxe]

I had a s5 with stasis tune and exhaust intake & kw v1. I like my RS much better. Car looks much more substantial. For me performance is better in my RS as well.


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OP has a stage 2 tune that isn't comparable to ur stage 1 revo


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[Jimmy ny]

Very similar.


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[jamin_00]

Not knowing your stage 1 tune you had, but in my experience they are most defiantly not!!

I had a generic stage 1 map and yes, it was great that was until I went to MRC and had them work their magic and their stage 2 tweaked to suit the car was quite a night and day difference. Regardless of what the figures show the tq curve is exceptional and pulls right up to the next gear change at 7200rpm or whatever it is now. If that map is a generic map which is not even run on a don to tune to the car then you would be amazed at the difference it makes :)

BTW, MRC are renowned for being not only the best in the UK but in Europe and have won VAG tuners of the year for something silly like the past 10 years. Legends. They are more expensive than others but they are quite exceptional as to what they do to the car. They keep it on the dyno until they are 100% happy with the tune on your car.

[Beast]

time to grab a RS5 Jamin!

[doug97gxe]

i don't want to distract from the main focus of this thread.. but i will just say

[email protected] Fastest Revo Stage 1

[email protected] Fastest Stage 2

if you feel they are similar then i'm not going to convince you otherwise

[jamin_00]

time to grab a RS5 Jamin!

Lets see what the new model brings :)

But right now, I have to say despite everything, my S is a beast. Its a wolf in sheep clothing.

Really intrigued as to what the new one will offer :)