NGP Racing RS6/RS7 Stage 3 Turbo Upgrade Kit for 4.0T S6/S7 Vehicles

[mike@ngp_racing]

To say this is our biggest hardware/software collaboration to date would be an understatement! We have teamed up with APR to offer you S6 and S7 owners the *Ultimate* performance upgrade. After extensive research and development we have created three upgrade packages built around RS6/RS7 turbochargers, 100 octane fuel, and APR software that can pump out a pin-you-to-your-seat 671hp and 708tq! The best part of these OEM+ upgrade is that you can choose from 3 "from mild to wild" packages :

Basic Kit:

This kit gives you the bare minimum requirements to upgrade to RS6 or RS7 horsepower and utilizes the existing factory airbox/intake.

Includes:

OEM RS6/RS7 Turbochargers
All required hardware, gaskets, seals and hoses
AMS Turbo Cooler System
Utilizes existing factory airbox

RS6/RS7 Intake Upgrade Kit:

This kit is aimed at those looking for more of an OEM+ style kit, including the larger volume RS6/RS7 OEM airbox/intake.

Includes:

OEM RS6/RS7 Turbochargers
All required hardware, gaskets, seals and hoses
AMS Turbo Cooler System
RS6/RS7 OEM airbox

Full Upgrade Kit:

This kit is designed for those that want the absolute highest performance potential from their S6/S7 and includes an AWE S-Flo Carbon fiber intake for maximum airflow to the turbochargers.

Includes:

OEM RS6/RS7 Turbochargers
All required hardware, gaskets, seals and hoses
AMS Turbo Cooler System
AWE S-FLo Carbon fiber intake

A detailed breakdown of the upgrade options can be found HERE

More information on the software portion of this upgrade can be found HERE

[markreed]

Just to be clear, is APR's software upgrade included in the pricing?

[mike@ngp_racing]

Excellent question. The pricing listed on our site for the three hardware kits does not include the software.

[clintb]

So it's ~$10K + Labour + APR Tune to get RS7 + APR Tune levels of performance?

What's the average Labour cost in your experience?

[brianc21]

Excellent question. The pricing listed on our site for the three hardware kits does not include the software.

What kind of testing, if any, went into determining the capabilities of the DSG being able to handle that kind of power long term? It's my understanding that the rs7 has the ZF because it's more capable of handling said power.

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[mike@ngp_racing]

So it's ~$10K + Labour + APR Tune to get RS7 + APR Tune levels of performance?

What's the average Labour cost in your experience?

Labor time is coming in between 10-12 hours

What kind of testing, if any, went into determining the capabilities of the DSG being able to handle that kind of power long term? It's my understanding that the rs7 has the ZF because it's more capable of handling said power.

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When we were dyno tuning at APR, we put down 690tq on 93 octane consistently with zero slippage. Ultimately we decided to back it down slightly, if only to provide that little extra factor of safety for long-term use (and we aren't greedy- 671tq isn't anything to sneeze at). You should have zero reservations about how well your transmission will hold up to the additional power.

[brianc21]

Labor time is coming in between 10-12 hours



When we were dyno tuning at APR, we put down 690tq consistently with zero slippage. Ultimately we decided to back it down slightly, if only to provide that little extra factor of safety for long-term use (and we aren't greedy- 671tq isn't anything to sneeze at). You should have zero reservations about how well your transmission will hold up to the additional power.

May want to adjust the OP then, it states 708 tq.

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[Blairautomotive]

Pretty sure that is just the 100 octane file numbers in the OP

[mike@ngp_racing]

Pretty sure that is just the 100 octane file numbers in the OP

That's correct, note made in OP

[mike@ngp_racing]

Up!

[///M Traitor]

Awesome job on kitting this together guys! I have a question about the exhaust side of things. Are these figures with the stock cats and exhaust? What are the differences going with aftermarket downpipes and exhaust? Is there any gauge as to which exhaust systems provide the best gains with the turbo upgrades? I currently have the AWE exhaust with stock catted downpipes..

[mike@ngp_racing]

Those numbers were made with test pipes flowing into the stock exhaust (with the mid-muffler deleted).

With regards to gauging which aftermarket system will make the largest gains, keeping tabs on dyno graphs and what other enthusiasts are installing is the best way to know which exhaust may be "best". With that said, for the most part all of the aftermarket exhaust systems should be within a few HP of each other.

[mike@ngp_racing]

Up!

[mike@ngp_racing]

TGIF

[playwithonehand]

Hi Mike

Was the test pipe made by APR or other brand?

I notice your website mention 10.9 quarter mile time is that with 93 or 100octane?

Thanks

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[mike@ngp_racing]

Jeez, it's March already?!

[Fast4DR S6]

Actually car has gone faster on 100 octane. This from a very reliable source

[playwithonehand]

The car's best run was an 11.17 on 104 octane. It never ran 10's.

where did you get the source mate?
was it 11.17 then DA correct to 10.9?

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[playwithonehand]

The owner of NGP read the numbers off the best timeslip to me on the phone.

damn this is HUGE disappointment consider Apr stage 2 did 11.0 with race fuel


wtf is the stage 3 for........??

dunno why i bought the rs7 turbo for lol

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[TurtleHaste]

damn this is HUGE disappointment consider Apr stage 2 did 11.0 with race fuel


wtf is the stage 3 for........??

dunno why i bought the rs7 turbo for lol

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That was APR's first universal Stage 3 tune. You know how the software bumps go. Hell the stage 2 S4s / A6/A7s picked up I think over 50 hp from first to latest release.

I think the confidence in the S6/S7 platform (engine cooling, transmission, etc.) as none have failed, will give the green light *no pun intended* for tuners to bump the stage 3 power up and out of "tease mode". Lol

Their last Stage 3 tune was not only dialed back the first go around for warm and fuzzy sake, but since then, no slippage of clutch packs have been seen as far as I'm aware. Additionally, if these downpipes, and full bolt-ons are fitted, (especially with RS7 turbos) what would really keep an S6 from living in the 10s all day long? I think it'll happen. On 93 pump too.

There is obviously more left in the tune of an S6/S7s fitted with RS7 turbos. Just waiting till someone releases an updated tune for a full bolt-on stage 3.

Speaking of, Anyone going to the track this weekend? If I'm able to go, I'll get to test the 93 pump stage 3 setup with this intake. Milltech downpipes for now, I can compare trap speeds when I get the APR downpipes. Should be *something there*.


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[Fast4DR S6]

Everyone seems to be so negative these days. This is a work in progress and the few leaks of information folks share they get slammed purely on numbers, not the conditions or test parameters. No one has stated what the best time is, because it has not been tested.

I applaud the few on here who lead the pack and actually share......

Instead those with very little vested are suddenly the experts above those who have been testing and testing the platform for over a year.

- They should of kept the car alone when it was Stage 1 with Cat Delete on 100 file when it ran the fastest times. Hell it was close to "sciblades" time after hist RS7 turbos swap. What a waste of $$$$



- Below referenced time from NGP owner on a day that was close to 100 degrees, high humidity, and we were testing an off the shelf cooler upgrade that actually proved to be less efficient then the OEM version causing timing to be pulled and significant powerloss versus the RS7 Stage 1 with its OEM cooling keeping temps within tolerance. If you factor all that is rather remarkable how well the car performed versus the Stage 1 RS7.



Not sure how many will actually step up and do this, but all I have to say its one hell of a ride and money well spent. Open your wallets and get in line

This platform as some stated earlier can easily run in the 10's and trap over 130mph when released if thats your passion if launched and hooked up correctly. This is a luxury family saloon not a drag car, so your risk level for having something break goes up significantly.

FINAL test for me since I am not a diehard 1/4 guy, is comparing RS7 versus S6 Stage 3 (Cooling Upgrade and DCT tune) in a WOT 1 Mile Airplane Ride.


Details coming soon. Cheers - the Greek

[mike@ngp_racing]

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[TurtleHaste]

I'm curious when IATs are not an issue, (assuming AMS cooler) what the traps will be on a stage 3 S6 with all proper supporting hardware on a 104 tune. waiting... If I can get out there and do it I will. Just been busy.


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[Dguth]

I will try it once I finally get my install done.


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[KnewJack]

Saw this is on RSW site regarding C7 S6 stage 3 RS7 turbo setup and APR tune (scroll to bottom for time slips).

http://redlinespeedworx.com/audi-s6-...-attacks-1320/

Why are these times not in the C7 S6 database? These would be the fastest C7 S6 times on record, unless I'm missing something.

[TurtleHaste]

Those are my 3 time slips. I think they accidentally put my slips up there on their latest S6 build. Mine was the black S6 they first put up. I'm sure it was just a mistake.


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[KnewJack]

Those are my 3 time slips. I think they accidentally put my slips up there on their latest S6 build. Mine was the black S6 they first put up. I'm sure it was just a mistake.


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Man, thanks for clearing that up. A C7 S6 trapping 130+ on stage 3 would truly be drool worthy. RS7 makes more sense, that car is awesome! They really need to change the title or take those slips down, very misleading.

I'm guessing you would probably need the hot cams out of the RS7 to even approach that kind of performance with an S6.

[hubris]

Man, thanks for clearing that up. A C7 S6 trapping 130+ on stage 3 would truly be drool worthy. RS7 makes more sense, that car is awesome! They really need to change the title or take those slips down, very misleading.

I'm guessing you would probably need the hot cams out of the RS7 to even approach that kind of performance with an S6.

Turtle's signature says he has an S6, where do you get RS7 from?

[TurtleHaste]

Man, thanks for clearing that up. A C7 S6 trapping 130+ on stage 3 would truly be drool worthy. RS7 makes more sense, that car is awesome! They really need to change the title or take those slips down, very misleading.

I'm guessing you would probably need the hot cams out of the RS7 to even approach that kind of performance with an S6.

Haha. Thanks. And yes. It is my 2014 Stage 3 S6. Not an RS7. :-)

[hubris]

Haha. Thanks. And yes. It is my 2014 Stage 3 S6. Not an RS7. :-)

Thought it was an S6, very nice. How are you getting times that are so much better than the other stage 3 people, even APR's advertised times?

[Dguth]

Thought it was an S6, very nice. How are you getting times that are so much better than the other stage 3 people, even APR's advertised times?

There's not that many stage 3 S6 people out there. At least ones that have the full setup: turbos, intake, coolant upgrade, downpipes and ECU/TCU tune. And the field narrows even further for ones who have track slips.


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[hubris]

There's not that many stage 3 S6 people out there. At least ones that have the full setup: turbos, intake, coolant upgrade, downpipes and ECU/TCU tune. And the field narrows even further for ones who have track slips.


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True, I guess I was mostly thinking of fairbird, who IIRC had trouble even breaking 10s?

[playwithonehand]

True, I guess I was mostly thinking of fairbird, who IIRC had trouble even breaking 10s?

So far these the people I know did stage 3 upgrade with slip:

Spero S6 - 11.188 - 127.05MPH - 93Octane
Fairbird S6 - 11.043 - 126.52 - 93Octane

Turtlehaste the current record holder :) 10.746 at 130.90 with 104 octane.

Myself S7 ran 11.153 - 128.01MPH 93octane, I just got the APR TCU RS7 shift map so hoping to get into 10s this week with 93 octane

[Fast4DR S6]

Always knew that this setup has the power to get our cars into the mid 10's! Great Job to all you 1/4 mile junkies

[KnewJack]

Turtle's signature says he has an S6, where do you get RS7 from?

I misread his sig. Just saw RS7 at a quick glance not realizing it was RS7 turbos! Doh! So really there was no mistake on the website, an RS7 turbo equipped C7 S6 ran those times. Very impressive. Any video of the run? Also I love the color of your car too, TurtleHaste, what is it called?