Current info on SC cooling?

[LaCross]

Greetings!

Are there any more budget friendly S/C coolers going around? APR, AWE, etc are the options which i found but they are all around $1800+ which is quite high considering what you get. Most of the info I find is outdated

[DBL R]

Dat Audi tax.

[bhvrdr]

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-11...FZFlfgodi_kAPg

Edit: no idea the quality.

Mike

[doug97gxe]

Dat Audi tax.

lol

[miztahsparklez]

I have the PLM cooler. Pretty much identical to APR, just a lot less. It also doesn't divorce the two coolant loops.


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[rtl5009]

Awe or bust.

[LaCross]

So how will the plm cooler fair? In comparison I mean

[miztahsparklez]

Works fine ;)


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[LaCross]

Did you upgrade the water pump or anything ?

[LaCross]

actually the plm costs more than th AWE

[infinkc]

actually the plm costs more than th AWE

Not if you email them direct, they will give a pretty nice discount.

[LaCross]

Do you have the plm reservoir as well?

[miztahsparklez]

It comes with everything except the parts to divorce the stock system and the other smaller filler reservoir since it uses the stock coolant expansion tank to fill. It does have its own reservoir in the fender though, similar to another brand.


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[LaCross]

So this just uses the stock pump then? Wouldn't that be much less efficient ?

[miztahsparklez]

There is no pump. There's no pump for some of the other brands as well, as it was found that it didn't need to have an extra pump to get the benefit.

However, I'm sure adding a pump might give you max performance, but I've definitely noticed a difference even with day to day driving. It's like driving with your car cold. Lots of power all the time, almost no heat soak.


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[2000S4]

Can anyone get me dimensions of the tank that come with this kit?

TIA

[miztahsparklez]

It's identical to another brand....


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[2000S4]

It's identical to another brand....


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I realize that. Looking for the dimensions so I could make something local.

[miztahsparklez]

I think the cost difference was negligible of fabricating and getting the deal. The radiator is the most expensive part. You can use any tank that fits anywhere.


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[blingaling]

Have you done any logs to verify that its a good upgrade? Most people go off of their butt dyno which is why i ask. Because thats a good price!!


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[miztahsparklez]

Not really much to log except temperature. There's another thread that shows the temps. Remember, this doesn't gain you hp, it just prevents you from losing more than you would with the stock cooler.


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[blingaling]

Im aware, i was meaning temp logs. Like do some consecutive pulls and see how big your temp differences are beginning to end. Thats the only way to test the efficiency of the cooler


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[audistealth]

Im aware, i was meaning temp logs. Like do some consecutive pulls and see how big your temp differences are beginning to end. Thats the only way to test the efficiency of the cooler


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I think Alpha did this.

[Josh/AWE]

Greetings!

Are there any more budget friendly S/C coolers going around? APR, AWE, etc are the options which i found but they are all around $1800+ which is quite high considering what you get. Most of the info I find is outdated

LC,

Allow me to give some key points as to what our ColdFront™ provides, and why we did some of the things we did to make the ColdFront™ quite different than the other options out there:

• IATs down up to 15°F
• Reduced coolant temperatures by a maximum of 24°F
• Prevented loss of 13 hp

The ColdFront™: a thoroughly engineered and manufactured (partnered with Griffin Thermal Products and Meziere Enterprises), warrantied, and guaranteed proven solution to defeating heat-based power loss.

Considering the proven, repeatable results, and the fact its the only exchanger on the market with a drain plug and bleed screw to ensure there isn't any air trapped while adding coolant, it's quite the bang for the buck especially when getting the complete kit.

Side note regarding the pump to accommodate above concerns - due to the increased coolant capacity of the ColdFront™, it affords the ability to raise the speed at which it's circulated. The faster the coolant is sent from the SC to the point of heat dissipation, the better. We doubled the flow from 8 GPM to 16 GPM (100% gain over stock), which increases efficiency without causing cavitation while reducing potential hot spots in the system.

Im aware, i was meaning temp logs. Like do some consecutive pulls and see how big your temp differences are beginning to end. Thats the only way to test the efficiency of the cooler

I think Alpha did this.

You may be thinking of the torture testing we did on the ColdFront™ system :).

And as mentioned above, upgrading the exchanger and its complimenting components is to efficiently retain power. See the data we gathered during torture testing the ColdFront™ system, including the influence of ColdFront™ Coolant Pump, and the impacts on temperature as well as the power retained as a result of the system:









*The data above is with the ColdFront™ Coolant Pump installed, below is with the stock pump in place.











Further, here's a link to an AZ thread featuring Jeff Jones, who laid down records in his S4 with help from the ColdFront™, as well as a thread with the record-setting AWE Tuning S5.



If you have any questions, feel free to hit me here or via email!


PS: Happy holidays, everyone!

[colby7]

I think Alpha did this.

+1 for AMS/Alpha