Going to track tomorrow or FRI for Chipwerke with pulley ..old thread locked?

[bhvrdr]

Hi all,

I'm heading to PBIR tomorrow unless we get another rain out. I'm hoping for a 70 degree day. I want to test the pulley.

I was going to post in the original thread but looks like it is locked???


http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...rke-piggy-back


I dont know anything about the CW person Murat other then he has been really cool about shipping things back and forth and taking my return with no restocking fee. I havent heard a single complaint about him and it seems like he has been trying to pay to be an advertiser for months now but no one will take his money???

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...er-on-Audizine


Again, he's on the opposite coast as me but it seems the guy has sold a few hundred of these to us on the forums, has a shop in Europe and in the US now, has a website and no one will let him be an advertiser and apparently ban him???

There are many advertisers that dont even seem to list a physical address on their site like HIDconcept, Podi.ca, etc. There are some advertisers that dont even have phone numbers listed.

Again, I'm not out to stick my head out for someone I dont know but can someone explain what is up with it? The only thing that sticks out to me is that you sell 300 chipwerkes and you have taken $300,000 away from heavy hitting advertisers. I hope this isnt the case. How can AZ take money and make a guy like Matt at Ocarbon an advertiser but lock my thread?


Anyways, I'm heading out to the track tomorrow with the S4. I'm hoping to get a run in 70 degree weather and then next week i'm hopefully going to be getting an S box with a more aggressive map for the pulley. I want to see the difference.

Ultimately i'm considering going stage 2 tune or maybe stage 3 SC but I cant not test this CW before I make any changes. I really want to see what this thing will do as the weather gets cooler so I can compare it to a proper stage 2 tune.

Mike

[GeoJoe]

I noticed that too. Weird because it seems like he's wanted to be a sponsor and asked several times how to be legit.

Be safe and have fun on the track!

[SteveYem]

I noticed that too. Weird because it seems like he's wanted to be a sponsor and asked several times how to be legit.

Be safe and have fun on the track!

Agreed - we all saw him state publicly on the forum that he had sent PMs to the moderators and/or admin with requests to become a site sponsor, but I guess they weren't receptive to it for whatever reason. It's too bad that thread go shut down as there was a lot of good information there. Maybe they will re-open it after removing whatever content they didn't like from Murat.

[scottycs]

Most likely because the other vendors complained. At least he is selling hardware vs port flash for 1k+ for a 6 year old platform.

[DGVR6]

For the price he is selling it for, it'll hurt other tuners

[bhvrdr]

Thanks guys.

Well I'm not sure what I should be hoping for. I'm bleeding a tad bit of boost up top with the pulley due to my actual boost hitting the specified boost targets. Its only a percent or so but from what I have seen posted a tiny amount of bypass opening can actually equal a significant amount of boost bleed. So with the car in its current form I'm hoping for maybe a low 12.4 or even a high 12.3.

If the bpv can stay completely shut and I can run in 60 degree weather this DEC or JAN then i'm thinking maybe a 12.2 at 112mph should be a goal? I'm not sure. I'm at 12.48 at 111mph now. The car is bone stock except the intake and full weight and only sees 93 octane. It also shifts at 6500rpm.

If I get a 12.2 at 112mph do any of you guys think it would be unreasonable to hope for maybe an 11.9 at 115mph or so with a proper stage 2 tune otherwise completely stock? I dont want to be unrealistic. I guess we'll just have to see how it goes.

Mike

[AerotusX]

I agree Murat is a great seller and contributed positively to this forum. I tried his CW Pro, but ended up returning it due to significant shift lag (in multiple settings) and a few errors codes. Murat accepted the return with no problem after trying to help me the best he can.

Looking forward to your results, Mike.

[15DGR V6]

Maybe you have to be in "The good ole boys club" for your money to qualify for advertisement on this website...

[DBL R]

Looking forward to your times.

[jran76]

It is pretty funny that the thread made it that long, and just got closed now. If there was an advertising issue, it probably happened around page 20 about 6 months ago. So, the first 500 pages, and 20,000 posts of free advertising were OK? Curious about what just now crossed the line.... I understand paying vendors keep this site operational, so I don't want to speculate on what happens behind the scenes in terms of vendors and such, but there was some humor (to me at least) to see that the thread got closed after being open for sooooo long.

[S4ilicious]

It is pretty funny that the thread made it that long, and just got closed now. If there was an advertising issue, it probably happened around page 20 about 6 months ago. So, the first 500 pages, and 20,000 posts of free advertising were OK? Curious about what just now crossed the line.... I understand paying vendors keep this site operational, so I don't want to speculate on what happens behind the scenes in terms of vendors and such, but there was some humor (to me at least) to see that the thread got closed after being open for sooooo long.

+1 totally with you on that one, made me lolz too. Mike, interested in your runs Good Luck!

[Mat@1975]

Thanks guys.

I'm bleeding a tad bit of boost up top with the pulley due to my actual boost hitting the specified boost targets.

Hy Mike ,

Do you think putting 2 CW in serie could rise the boost target ?
Odd idea ? or has it a chance to work ?

Have a good day at the track !!!

BR

Mat

[ojmcneill]

Yeah, that really left a bad taste in my mouth. Free Murat! That's what I say.

[bhvrdr]

@jran and s4licious, lol, i do see your point. The thread is a bit of a monster. I dont know which of us on the forums decided that all information pertaining to CW goes in that one thread, but its definitely snowballed, lol. I'm just surprised they won't take money from the guy considering other vendors who have "made the cut." It is what it is.


Jran or mat or AZT? or others do you want to take a look at these pulley logs. The only issue I can see is the bypass is opening a tiny bit near my low 6500rpm redline. I imaging this could be worse for MT cars if they had the pulley. With the stock SC pulley the request and target boost is around 200mbar away from each other if I am recalling correctly. You see now with the pulley the targets and actual are getting much much closer. I emailed CW to see if they can do a new map to fix that. No idea if it is possible. I'll find out. I just want to see what this thing has in it so I can get a good comparison when I go Stage 2 and/or beyond.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2q...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2q...ew?usp=sharing


Any ideas on what I should be hoping for 2.266" pulley car with a stock TCU, stock car on 93 octane in say 70 degree weather or maybe around +1200 DA? I was thinking maybe if I can do 12.3 at 111-112mph with the CW maybe could I do 11.9 or 12.0 at 113mph to 114mph if I had a stage 2 tune all else being stock? Am I being unrealistic?

Mike

[Mat@1975]

Hello Mike,

These logs are with the CW right ? or stock map with only the pulley ?
the specified boost and the effective boost seems to meet up before 6000 rpm (~5700) and thus, the bypass opening is quite logical. (but i am never sure of what you get by logging pressures with a piggy back... the real one or the "false" one (due to the piggy's lie) )

Another though is about your effective timing: it seems as low as the stock one, verry conservative. So i think you should gain with an aggressive Stg1 or Stg2 MAP (like APR one)

Not sure if it will help... but let us know about your findings !

BR

MAt

[IIIAWOLIII]

... If there was an advertising issue, it probably happened around page 20 about 6 months ago. So, the first 500 pages, and 20,000 posts of free advertising were OK? Curious about what just now crossed the line...

- Murat sells a tack-on device which, while not perfect, competes with Stage 1 performance, the cheapest of which available sells for 3 times the cost of the CW, from forum-sponsoring vendors. Forum members confirm the CW offers TD1 stealth.
- Paying advertisers spend time and money on development, but none is able to offer complete TD1 stealth in a DIY performance upgrade. Their prices remain 3x that of the CW.
- After much drama and expense, a Stage 3 kit is released. With a gutted, slick-wearing, highly-modded car putting up numbers nominally better than available stage 2s. (uh oh...)
- The question is asked how the CW would fair with a pulley swap. (oh sh*t....)
- Done. No more CW.

[AudBoost]

The only thing I noticed in your logs is that the car starts to dump a good amount of fuel when you get north of 5300 rpms. Looking at the second log file at about 5332 rpms AFR goes from 12:1 to 11.13:1 and at 6180 AFR is at 10.80:1. Its much better than running lean but that's pretty rich up top.

[bhvrdr]

Thanks guys for the feedback.

All excellent points.

Yes, this is with the pulley and the CW device. What I noticed is now that "spoofed" signal has gotten much closer to boost targets so there is that bit of BPV opening. This wasnt a surprise. I was actually surprised it is keeping it closed pretty well. I asked CW if they can create a new map to lower the signal even more for use with this smaller pulley. I dont know if it will work or not. I figure I may as well try. Nothing to lose really.


The fueling is something else I noticed. I noticed it actually enriches a bit better/more than the stage 1 level which seems to just tell me the factory safeguards continue to work and there is enough fuel there too. That was what I was VERY concerned about. I had planned on basically doing one run with CW and pulley on just for curiosity sake then going back stock and then in for the stage 2 tune. I hadnt expected the fuel to be there.

The stock car enriches right at that rpm range as well and you can kind of tell it is an enrichment strategy as opposed to a fuel target. Audi has always relied well on fuel enrichment directives to dictate changes to the stock fuel curve. Supposedly the stock fuel targets are .90 to redline but you will never see a car run that fuel curve. The enrichment directives pretty much guarantee you wont see any WOT run that doesnt enrich up to .80 or more by redline. I'm not worried about being too rich since other tuners have been able to make 11:1 work from 2500rpm to redline under WOT on their tunes but was most concerned there wouldnt be enough fuel.


So that brings us to timing. Im seeing this issue too. That is what I also think is holding me back. The timing is pretty low for actual timing and there are some areas I am not having any knock correction so I think I could get some power there. I searched and found this APR stage 2 log of timing...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&output=html

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&output=html

Those logs are from a long time ago though and I wonder if people are seeing more timing on the stage 2 now on pump fuel? I thought maybe I should be seeing around 18 degrees up top on 93 if I had a proper tune? Thoughts?

Thanks all. I'll keep you updated. We're fighting the rain again today but it may dry out.

Mike

[sonic32]

Hey Mike, for comparison purposes I pulled these logs a few weeks ago

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bw37...letype=msexcel

Car: 2012 S4 6MT
Mods: GIAC stage 2 with different pulley than anything on the market and Roc Euro intake
First two complete runs were done on current north eastern 93 octane and the last one was 10 gallons 93 and 2 of e85. The timing achieved seems the same as with the APR logs and that's with the 2 gallons of e85 in the tank.


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[Mat@1975]

Thanks guys for the feedback.



So that brings us to timing. Im seeing this issue too. That is what I also think is holding me back. The timing is pretty low for actual timing and there are some areas I am not having any knock correction so I think I could get some power there. I searched and found this APR stage 2 log of timing...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&output=html

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&output=html

Those logs are from a long time ago though and I wonder if people are seeing more timing on the stage 2 now on pump fuel? I thought maybe I should be seeing around 18 degrees up top on 93 if I had a proper tune? Thoughts?

Thanks all. I'll keep you updated. We're fighting the rain again today but it may dry out.

Mike

Hello Mike,

May be you missed my air box mod, with boost and timing logs, here it is: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-Pics-and-Logs

You can see my stage 1 APR 91 Tune: timing is sllightly higher: 18- 19° at 6000 rpm, 22-23 ° at 7000 . (and only with 91 map, and crappy 93 (RON 98) french fuel)

So more timing could help you a lot, i think .

(you also can see my boost levels: i don't really understand how can they be as high... but that's cool !! ;o) )

BR Mat

[bhvrdr]

Thanks so much sonic and Mat. You guys rock. It looks like timing is a place there may be room to improve.

So sonic, you were running from 10.875 degrees up to about 15 degrees from 5000rpm to 6300rpm (where my redline is) with little to no knock correction

Mat, you were running 15 to 20 degrees "effective timing" from 5000rpm to 6300rpm but unclear what the knock correction was.

These are big differences in timing for similar fuel. I'm definitely stuck at my timing levels I think and it seems I could benefit from a tune with a more aggressive timing curve.

Mike

[sonic32]

Yeah and it seemed that adding a little bit of e85 fixed the knock correction and started at 13.25 at 5000 rpms and ended at 15.75 at 6300 and then up to redline it kept up in the high 16's up to 17, there's a lot of power left on the table after 6300 rpms


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[jran76]

- Murat sells a tack-on device which, while not perfect, competes with Stage 1 performance, the cheapest of which available sells for 3 times the cost of the CW, from forum-sponsoring vendors. Forum members confirm the CW offers TD1 stealth.
- Paying advertisers spend time and money on development, but none is able to offer complete TD1 stealth in a DIY performance upgrade. Their prices remain 3x that of the CW.
- After much drama and expense, a Stage 3 kit is released. With a gutted, slick-wearing, highly-modded car putting up numbers nominally better than available stage 2s. (uh oh...)
- The question is asked how the CW would fair with a pulley swap. (oh sh*t....)
- Done. No more CW.

It was more of a rhetorical question on my part.

[Mat@1975]

Mat, you were running 15 to 20 degrees "effective timing" from 5000rpm to 6300rpm but unclear what the knock correction was.

Mike

Mike,

Yes, the APR tune is verry "aggressive" and there are quite timing corrections, up to -6° peak (witch is reasonnable, though)

See my thread with logs with and without E85 mixes : http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ing-pull/page3

It seem that that tune "asks" for a verry large amount of timing and relies on the ECU timing correction's strategy... and all is fine...
==> with sufficient amount of E85 (or race gas) the 93 map stg1 should reach up to 30 ° of timing at red line!

Hope i am clear ;o)

BR

Mat

[jran76]

Thanks guys for the feedback.

All excellent points.

Yes, this is with the pulley and the CW device. What I noticed is now that "spoofed" signal has gotten much closer to boost targets so there is that bit of BPV opening. This wasnt a surprise. I was actually surprised it is keeping it closed pretty well. I asked CW if they can create a new map to lower the signal even more for use with this smaller pulley. I dont know if it will work or not. I figure I may as well try. Nothing to lose really.


The fueling is something else I noticed. I noticed it actually enriches a bit better/more than the stage 1 level which seems to just tell me the factory safeguards continue to work and there is enough fuel there too. That was what I was VERY concerned about. I had planned on basically doing one run with CW and pulley on just for curiosity sake then going back stock and then in for the stage 2 tune. I hadnt expected the fuel to be there.

The stock car enriches right at that rpm range as well and you can kind of tell it is an enrichment strategy as opposed to a fuel target. Audi has always relied well on fuel enrichment directives to dictate changes to the stock fuel curve. Supposedly the stock fuel targets are .90 to redline but you will never see a car run that fuel curve. The enrichment directives pretty much guarantee you wont see any WOT run that doesnt enrich up to .80 or more by redline. I'm not worried about being too rich since other tuners have been able to make 11:1 work from 2500rpm to redline under WOT on their tunes but was most concerned there wouldnt be enough fuel.


So that brings us to timing. Im seeing this issue too. That is what I also think is holding me back. The timing is pretty low for actual timing and there are some areas I am not having any knock correction so I think I could get some power there. I searched and found this APR stage 2 log of timing...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&output=html

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&output=html

Those logs are from a long time ago though and I wonder if people are seeing more timing on the stage 2 now on pump fuel? I thought maybe I should be seeing around 18 degrees up top on 93 if I had a proper tune? Thoughts?

Thanks all. I'll keep you updated. We're fighting the rain again today but it may dry out.

Mike

I think you are pretty much on point with your stage 2 timing guess if we're talking APR. My APR stage 2 tune with v2.x topped out around 14-15 degrees with 93 and no timing pulled. The new v3.x tune seems to top out at 18-19 degrees. I know some people have seen higher, but my car is pretty consistent in this range (I only log with a 1500 DA, so maybe this has something to do with it). Revo seems to go higher to around 22 degrees, and GIAC is close to APR.

Some of the older CW logs showed a lot more timing than what you are getting now, so I think that is hurting you more than anything right now. Honestly, I am also a little surprised the bypass is not opening more, so I don't think that is hurting you much (that's a pretty small amount given what you're doing). Can you mix in some race gas or E85? I'm wondering if that would get rid of the timing pull and raise your actual timing some. I think that is where your gains will be at this point.

[jran76]

My car on 93 with v3.1 (APR):





With the older 2.x version:





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Newer Revo stage 2 (1+ for them) tune on B8.5 with TCU tune. *Car had a Eurocode intake, no exhaust or coolant system. *93 octane. *Same 65 degree day or so, and on a dyno. *Timing topped out at 23 degrees.







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GIAC stage 2 v2 on B8.5 with TCU tune. *Car had a Roc-Euro intake, and an exhaust (AWE?). *No coolant system. *93 octane. *65 degree day or so, but this was on a dyno. Timing topped out around 16 degrees.

[sonic32]

I think you are pretty much on point with your stage 2 timing guess if we're talking APR. My APR stage 2 tune with v2.x topped out around 14-15 degrees with 93 and no timing pulled. The new v3.x tune seems to top out at 18-19 degrees. I know some people have seen higher, but my car is pretty consistent in this range (I only log with a 1500 DA, so maybe this has something to do with it). Revo seems to go higher to around 22 degrees, and GIAC is close to APR.

Some of the older CW logs showed a lot more timing than what you are getting now, so I think that is hurting you more than anything right now. Honestly, I am also a little surprised the bypass is not opening more, so I don't think that is hurting you much (that's a pretty small amount given what you're doing). Can you mix in some race gas or E85? I'm wondering if that would get rid of the timing pull and raise your actual timing some. I think that is where your gains will be at this point.

Would you mind taking a look at my logs? With giac stage 2 on pump map I only see about 17 max with 10 gallons 93 and 2 of e85 but with no knock correction. It would be cool if I could reach 20 that would be quite an improvement.


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[sonic32]

Actually I do seem to be getting more boost across the band than all of the logs you showed. Mike are the intake manifold readings spooked on yours or actual?


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[Mat@1975]

Would you mind taking a look at my logs? With giac stage 2 on pump map I only see about 17 max with 10 gallons 93 and 2 of e85 but with no knock correction. It would be cool if I could reach 20 that would be quite an improvement.


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Hello Sonic,

I think that if you don't see any timing corrections, you could do Nothing to rise your effective timing (by adding E85, for example) , except by changing the Map itself...

BR

Mat

[jran76]

Would you mind taking a look at my logs? With giac stage 2 on pump map I only see about 17 max with 10 gallons 93 and 2 of e85 but with no knock correction. It would be cool if I could reach 20 that would be quite an improvement.


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Actually I do seem to be getting more boost across the band than all of the logs you showed. Mike are the intake manifold readings spooked on yours or actual?


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What was the outside temp when you collected the logs you posted above? Do you have a coolant system? Your IAT's went up pretty quick, and are little high for what I'd expect of November in NY.

The GIAC car I logged above topped out at 16 degrees. I have another somewhere that was closer to 18, but both are in-line with what you are seeing. I doubt you are going to see much more if you are not seeing any knock correction. Running 2-3 gallons of E85 should push you to as good as you are going to get in terms of timing. Lowering your IAT's may help a little....

Mike's readings will read artificially lower as that is the signal being altered. Conditions can also greatly effect the pressure readings. It's not uncommon for me to see a couple PSI difference in logs on otherwise similar stage 2 cars.

[sonic32]

What was the outside temp when you collected the logs you posted above? Do you have a coolant system? Your IAT's went up pretty quick, and are little high for what I'd expect of November in NY.

The GIAC car I logged above topped out at 16 degrees. I have another somewhere that was closer to 18, but both are in-line with what you are seeing. I doubt you are going to see much more if already are not seeing any knock correction. Running 2-3 gallons of E85 should push you to as good as you are going to get in terms of timing. Lowering your IAT's may help a little....

Mike's readings will read artificially lower as that is the signal being altered. Conditions can also greatly effect the pressure readings. It's not uncommon for me to see a couple PSI difference in logs on otherwise similar stage 2 cars.

It was about 48F outside if not mistaken and no coolant system yet. I was going to order it but the clutch is gone so I need to take care of that first. I did see that the IAT's climbed significantly quick.
I was on the race map for a few days but unfortunately I didn't get to pull logs to see the difference hopefully next time I get my hands on 104 I'll log with the race file so we can have more data to compare.
I think the cw with a revised map can play with the pulley as good as an average stage 2 flash, maybe first versions of APR's tunes.


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[jran76]

It was about 48F outside if not mistaken and no coolant system yet. I was going to order it but the clutch is gone so I need to take care of that first. I did see that the IAT's climbed significantly quick.
I was on the race map for a few days but unfortunately I didn't get to pull logs to see the difference hopefully next time I get my hands on 104 I'll log with the race file so we can have more data to compare.
I think the cw with a revised map can play with the pulley as good as an average stage 2 flash, maybe first versions of APR's tunes.


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Yeah, your IAT's are a little high then. I do most my logging in 60-70F weather, and my IAT's typically stay under 55C even on the 4th or 5th hard run (I always do at least 4-5 3rd gear passes when logging). The IAT's aren't hurting you too bad since you aren't seeing any timing pull or bypass. No doubt a clutch should be a priority over cooling. I have mixed feelings on the coolant kit. It absolutely helps on a stage 2 car (a lot in some cases), but the car is fast without it. Unless you are trying to consistently make the most power, you can get by without....

[IIIAWOLIII]

It was more of a rhetorical question on my part.

My reply was for posterity.

[bhvrdr]

lol, you guys are a trip.

Thanks Jran. Yeah, I agree about trying some race fuel at some point. I like to do the 1/4 mile the way I would run my car on the road but i'm going to think about doing a race fuel run some time just to kill the curiosity.

Sonic, the manifold readings are artificially low. They go up with the pulley but are still scaled back from what the true boost is.


So, if I can get a little CW map that can lower the boost signal even more maybe I can keep the bpv closed. Then its likely maxed out. Conceivably a TCU tune could then help me since I would be losing out on some nice timing about 6300rpm, but then why not just get the whole stage 2 with TCU tune deal at that point (which I probably will).


Mike

[jran76]

I like to do the 1/4 mile the way I would run my car on the road but i'm going to think about doing a race fuel run some time just to kill the curiosity.

I'm with you there.

[Frank1298]

Sorry if im making this thread out of topic since the original thread got closed. I turned my setting to 5,1 from B,1 it was shipped that way for stock DSG (wedo have 93 octane here in TX). When I took it out for a spin tonight I let the car warm up before I got on it and when I did get on it, it hesitated between shifts. After the car shifted to 3rd I gave it the gas car pulled way harder and then got the hesitation again then the EPC light came on. Pulled over changed back to B,1 car went back to normal no more EPC light it seemed to drive back to how it had been driving. I scanned with the Carista app and pulled code more misfire cylinder 3. My question is do I have to reset ECU when I switch setting or what are the steps to switch setting or should I just leave it as is not to damage my car. Sorry in advance im a noob to Audi and a car with supercharger.

[bhvrdr]

Sorry if im making this thread out of topic since the original thread got closed. I turned my setting to 5,1 from B,1 it was shipped that way for stock DSG (wedo have 93 octane here in TX). When I took it out for a spin tonight I let the car warm up before I got on it and when I did get on it, it hesitated between shifts. After the car shifted to 3rd I gave it the gas car pulled way harder and then got the hesitation again then the EPC light came on. Pulled over changed back to B,1 car went back to normal no more EPC light it seemed to drive back to how it had been driving. I scanned with the Carista app and pulled code more misfire cylinder 3. My question is do I have to reset ECU when I switch setting or what are the steps to switch setting or should I just leave it as is not to damage my car. Sorry in advance im a noob to Audi and a car with supercharger.

Rain out yesterday guys :(



Do you have the S box (plastic) or the Pro box (aluminum)?

The S box is the one usually at b1 settings and you don't want to turn it up past d1. Turning get that box up to 5-1 would be way to much.

If it is a used pro box from before Apr of 2015, same thing.


for pro boxes after April you d start at 3-1 and can go usually to 5-1 on 93 octane


Mike

[Frank1298]

Its the Pro box I bought it brand new about a month and 1/2 ago almost every gas station here you can get 93 octane that's what I figured I can try the 5-1 setting. My car has the CTS Turbo intake and I also did the resonator delete with an X-pipe I could definitely tell that the car was pulling a lot harder in the 5-1 setting vs the 3-1. Is there a certain procedure that has to be done when you switch the setting over?

Rain out yesterday guys :(



Do you have the S box (plastic) or the Pro box (aluminum)?

The S box is the one usually at b1 settings and you don't want to turn it up past d1. Turning get that box up to 5-1 would be way to much.

If it is a used pro box from before Apr of 2015, same thing.


for pro boxes after April you d start at 3-1 and can go usually to 5-1 on 93 octane


Mike

[bhvrdr]

Its the Pro box I bought it brand new about a month and 1/2 ago almost every gas station here you can get 93 octane that's what I figured I can try the 5-1 setting. My car has the CTS Turbo intake and I also did the resonator delete with an X-pipe I could definitely tell that the car was pulling a lot harder in the 5-1 setting vs the 3-1. Is there a certain procedure that has to be done when you switch the setting over?

There isnt a way to mess up changing the settings too bad. Just do it with the car off and door locked.

If you get a CEL or any funky behavior right after a setting change, try clearing any soft codes or just press the "clear codes" button in vag-com anyway to reset the ecu. This can clear anything. If you dont have vag-com, just leave the battery disconnected overnight or you can also get the carista app I am told.

Mike

[Frank1298]

Awesome thanks man I will try what you said when I made the change with the doors open and the car unlocked. Weird that would actually make something not work right but oh well I guess. I will also try to reset the ecu via Carista app and see if that will work. If not I will leave the battery unplugged overnight my S4 is my weekend car so I have plenty of time to let my ECU reset.

There isnt a way to mess up changing the settings too bad. Just do it with the car off and door locked.

If you get a CEL or any funky behavior right after a setting change, try clearing any soft codes or just press the "clear codes" button in vag-com anyway to reset the ecu. This can clear anything. If you dont have vag-com, just leave the battery disconnected overnight or you can also get the carista app I am told.

Mike