Thoughts on audi recalls?

[JeriQo]

do you get irritated that our cars have to go for service every other month?
or are you actually glad they do this to prevent permanent damage in the long run?

does this represent audis unreliability or its just them correcting defects? --which also kinda loops to unreliability.

[richardm0025]

I mean I rather be safe than sorry. To me it's not a big deal dropping it off and getting a loaner.


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[Smellie]

I mean I rather be safe than sorry. To me it's not a big deal dropping it off and getting a loaner.


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TD1 for me :(

[bakedziti]

do you get irritated that our cars have to go for service every other month?
or are you actually glad they do this to prevent permanent damage in the long run?

does this represent audis unreliability or its just them correcting defects? --which also kinda loops to unreliability.

I'm out of warranty, but try to get AoA to commit to anything I read about on here. Other than the oil consumption, I have done nothing with the dealer or recalls, but I would be open to anything available. All the rest of the maintenance stuff I like to do myself; time permitting. German cars have a reputation for reliability for a reason, but I would like to think that most were aware of that prior to purchase; it all comes with the territory in my eyes.

[JeriQo]

I mean I rather be safe than sorry. To me it's not a big deal dropping it off and getting a loaner.


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i do enjoy the loaners as well..

but the constant "whats wrong with your car again?" from co-workers and gf is like nails on a chalkboard.

[AUDIMAN33]

I never even take the loners. Your service is faster if they see an irate customer in their show room.

[JeriQo]

I never even take the loners. Your service is faster if they see an irate customer in their show room.

man something is really wrong with you lol
you rush those guys and complain few days it wasnt done right -- you strike me as that guy that would do that.

last time i took my car in, I let the dealer keep my car for 2 days just for a battery replacement. got a nice 2015 loaner. no complaints.

[jmeenach]

I have had mine for 2 years and have received two recalls: one for the airbag coding, and now this PCV recall. The coding was done during my 35k service, so this recall will be the first time my car has gone in for service other than scheduled 10K service intervals (changing my own oil between services). I have to say I am happier with this car than any other car I have owned.

[richardm0025]

i do enjoy the loaners as well..

but the constant "whats wrong with your car again?" from co-workers and gf is like nails on a chalkboard.

Omg same fucking thing here. My gf and I have a bet that my Audi won't have another fuck up for the next 6 months. I replaced turbo, intake manifold, motor mounts and dealer replaced injectors, water pump, thermostat, lower control arms, and engine rebuild. The reason I made a bet is because what else could fucking go wrong lmao.


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[treginginco]

Huh?

[o1turbo30v]

Yes the B8 2.0T is a pos engine. I think the VW/Audi group focused to much on reaching the #1 car manufacturer and quality suffered.

[wabbit23]

Within the first few months my car was in and out if the dealer for a good majority of the major B8 issues -ie bad wastegate, oil consumption, etc.

But once everything was taken care of this thing has been awesome and runs strong as hell now. Of course Im stage 2 and have done a decent amount of mods to it but I'd say shes pretty reliable.

It also seemed as though Audi was all for taking care of me. That and the loan cars at my dealer....
'16 A6 TDI Prestige S Line


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[kaz02a4]

Yes the B8 2.0T is a pos engine. I think the VW/Audi group focused to much on reaching the #1 car manufacturer and quality suffered.

The B7 2.0T was worse off, trust me. That was the first trial for GDi as well.

I was generally pretty happy about how Audi handled warranty claims, but recently they left my dad out in the cold over the oil consumption recall. Not even a little bit of help, even with the meticulous maintenance records. It soured me a bit, given how he turned me and my brother into Audi guys. Not sure if my family will stick with the brand.

[diego_demarco]

TD1 for me :(

They don't give you a loaner if you're flagged td1?

[homelessNY_LI]

2 years having the car. One recall for the airbag and one service campaign for the Crankcase Pressure Regulating Valve. I never take a loaner and so far I don't see these as a big issue

[Smellie]

They don't give you a loaner if you're flagged td1?

Nah, I just haven't brought it in to an Audi dealer since I started modding. I just do basic maintenance on my own.

Debating whether if I want to just risk the no-scan recall fix or to just get the TD1.


Also,

Is there any way you can buy an ECU off a junkyard B8 A4 to avoid TD1? (Assuming everything else is stock)

[GilliamOS]

Nah, I just haven't brought it in to an Audi dealer since I started modding. I just do basic maintenance on my own.

Debating whether if I want to just risk the no-scan recall fix or to just get the TD1.


Also,

Is there any way you can buy an ECU off a junkyard B8 A4 to avoid TD1? (Assuming everything else is stock)

No, security coding will stop it from working.

[macscac]

Who has to go to the dealer every other month with an A4????
thats retarded...

do you get irritated that our cars have to go for service every other month?
or are you actually glad they do this to prevent permanent damage in the long run?

does this represent audis unreliability or its just them correcting defects? --which also kinda loops to unreliability.

[diego_demarco]

Nah, I just haven't brought it in to an Audi dealer since I started modding. I just do basic maintenance on my own.

Debating whether if I want to just risk the no-scan recall fix or to just get the TD1.


Also,

Is there any way you can buy an ECU off a junkyard B8 A4 to avoid TD1? (Assuming everything else is stock)

Oh ok lol just making sure they give me a loaner

[JeriQo]

Who has to go to the dealer every other month with an A4????
thats retarded...

It is indeed. Glad you havent done so.

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[Shimmy]

Is there any way you can buy an ECU off a junkyard B8 A4 to avoid TD1? (Assuming everything else is stock)

ECU is married to the VIN, so no.

[doowopaudi]

TD1 for me :(

Check with your tuner shop to see if they offer some kind of flash/reflash package. That way you can flash to stock when needed.

[Smellie]

Check with your tuner shop to see if they offer some kind of flash/reflash package. That way you can flash to stock when needed.

That doesn't avoid TD1 though.. Dealers can see how many times its been flashed, and I'm pretty sure once they see more than 1, they automatically mark you for TD1

[b6Hate4]

ECU is married to the VIN, so no.

Untill they get virginized. So yes.

[Project Quattro]

Doesn't bother me, with the 2 cars I've had for about 4 years I usually didn't have to make more than one non-routine (10k/1yr service) stop a year. And I'd rather have a part replaced quickly and proactively, i.e. this PCV thing, than deal with bigger problems which could arise from not doing so.


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[Davidx1994]

Doesn't bother me one bit. I would have an extra ~5k miles on my car if it wasn't for bringing my car in and having loaners.
I once had a Q5 TDI for 3 weeks and I put 3k miles on it.
All the issues I've had have been fixed though, and the car has been very reliable.

[homelessNY_LI]

Doesn't bother me one bit. I would have an extra ~5k miles on my car if it wasn't for bringing my car in and having loaners.
I once had a Q5 TDI for 3 weeks and I put 3k miles on it.
All the issues I've had have been fixed though, and the car has been very reliable.

What work did you have done that took 3 weeks?

[slacktide]

do you get irritated that our cars have to go for service every other month?
or are you actually glad they do this to prevent permanent damage in the long run?

does this represent audis unreliability or its just them correcting defects? --which also kinda loops to unreliability.

Are you serious? You are upset that the Audi corrects defects when they find them, instead of hiding them, backdating the evidence of the fix, and killing people like GM does?

[b6onboost]

^ I don't think the OP is irritated that Audi decides to do the right thing and issue recalls...but that recalls continues to affirm that Audi's are fairly unreliable and in frequent need of maintenance/repairs even when they're relatively new.

[homelessNY_LI]

Overall too the service at the audi dealer is amazing compared to the previous brand I had. Went to the old brand dealer for a 35k service. The waiting area was horrible. Then as I'm waiting the service guy came back trying to tell me I needed a new battery and a whole bunch of other things which were not in need of replacing. I'm glad I sold it and got my a4. Between how the car drives (esp in winter ) and how the service is handled I will stick with audi for a long time

[booost]

What work did you have done that took 3 weeks?

I'm guessing the stage 2 oil consumption, they had my car for 2 weeks for that and I racked up a ton of miles on a brand new Q5 loaner.

[Davidx1994]

What work did you have done that took 3 weeks?

The idiotic dealership I used to go to forgot that they had my car... No joke.

My turbo was rattling, so I thought that entire time they were waiting for the part. However, they forgot about it. Then they realized they were missing one of their loaner cars. Lol.

I don't go there anymore because they've messed up other things.

The new dealership I go to replaced the turbo and did stage 2 oil consumption in just one week.


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[JeriQo]

^ I don't think the OP is irritated that Audi decides to do the right thing and issue recalls...but that recalls continues to affirm that Audi's are fairly unreliable and in frequent need of maintenance/repairs even when they're relatively new.

thanks for making that clear :)

im glad audi corrects these errors but the constant trips to service makes you think "whats next?"
love the outstanding service the dealer does but i dont think anyone has gone 2 years without making a trip to the dealership for a warranty covered service/recall.

dont get me wrong, i love the brand but looking at this cars history, the fuel injector, intake manifold, spark plug and catalytic converter had already been replaced under warranty @ 8100 miles. currently at 12k, im gonna take it in again for the valve. last month i had the batteries replaced.

[slacktide]

dont get me wrong, i love the brand but looking at this cars history, the fuel injector, intake manifold, spark plug and catalytic converter had already been replaced under warranty @ 8100 miles.

THAT is a sign that your dealership does not know what they are doing, and are chasing a problem by throwing parts at it rather than thoughtfully troubleshooting whatever issue they are attempting to solve.

I thought that the topic under discussion was excessive recalls, not excessive warranty service? What other recalls were you affected by?

[JeriQo]

THAT is a sign that your dealership does not know what they are doing, and are chasing a problem by throwing parts at it rather than thoughtfully troubleshooting whatever issue they are attempting to solve.

I thought that the topic under discussion was excessive recalls, not excessive warranty service? What other recalls were you affected by?

i wouldnt know any better than those certified audi mechanics. im a yes man to whatever service they suggest. should i tell them no, i need to do ask the forum first?

recalls/warranty service -- still in and out of the dealership.

[Townending]

That doesn't avoid TD1 though.. Dealers can see how many times its been flashed, and I'm pretty sure once they see more than 1, they automatically mark you for TD1

Dealer never found my tune until I took it in with the tune...

[Smellie]

Dealer never found my tune until I took it in with the tune...

wat

[Townending]

wat

Each time I went in for recalls/service/issues, I went to my APR dealer, had it flashed back to stock, then took it in for recalls/service/issues. They never once brought up the tune.

Then I did a whole bunch of mods and was going to avoid the dealer to avoid TD1, but the independent shop messed up my steering sensor during the wheel alignment so I had no choice but to take it to Audi as I needed the car ready for the track later that day. Audi took the car in, marked me TD1 for engine tune. They didn't really care about my other mods.

[jmeenach]

That doesn't avoid TD1 though.. Dealers can see how many times its been flashed, and I'm pretty sure once they see more than 1, they automatically mark you for TD1

Your tuner can reset the load counter to the same number it was before the tune was loaded. Not all load counters are, nor should the be at one. When you take your car to the dealer for reprogramming and certain updates, your counter will go up. If your tuner doesn't do this, then yes, you can still be flagged.

[A4x]

Your tuner can reset the load counter to the same number it was before the tune was loaded. Not all load counters are, nor should the be at one. When you take your car to the dealer for reprogramming and certain updates, your counter will go up. If your tuner doesn't do this, then yes, you can still be flagged.

For example, stage 1 for the oil consumption issue involves an ECU flash for updating software and slightly changing some pressures. This would +1 the counter.

I've driven my 2011 from 60000 km to 85000 km and no issues (except oil consumption!!). I know it had injectors replaced early in it's life. Other than that, nothing. Fingers crossed I got a decent one.

Although I'd like a new turbo and pistons+timing chain before my warranty is up