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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    2.95 FATS F21 car, pump + methanol.

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    Victory dance. Sure it's a little cold (temp is in Celsius), but still very conservative corrections, and the car is running rich (low 11s, to 10.8 in the top end). I'm happy, could push it more but I feel I'm at a happy safe limit.

    25psi to redline, dual d07 nozzles with 100% methanol.













    This was taken on the same place I've used since going stage 3. Always consistent results regardless of direction. No boost logs because stock MAP. Maf is scaled on the top end to not max out load, and no AFR log because I haven't set it up to do so yet.

    Talk shit, or enjoy. Really thinking in the future, I might just need some mix flows, rods, and e85.
    Stock engine with some rods tossed in. 11.25@132mph.

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    Active Member Four Rings aysix's Avatar
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    Nice now just leave it the way it is. You're running rich so maybe mix that meth w/distilled. Other than that don't touch it.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings erykv1's Avatar
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    badass! are you tuned for the meth?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Yea, running Eurodyne. Learned a lot over the past few months. Just need to grow a pair of balls and sell this ecm/cable and go the full diy route. Only thing stopping me is that It's running so good now I don't want to touch it.

    Good point Aysix on adding water. That was the other reason I don't want to touch the fueling since going 100% methanol, in case I run out and need to switch back to washer fluid/heet temporarily.
    Stock engine with some rods tossed in. 11.25@132mph.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    Niceee. These are the golden f21s
    B5 S4- K24s, built bottom end, E85 - Gone
    B9 S4- EPL/AWE
    996TT X50 - Marski 700hp

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    Active Member Four Rings aysix's Avatar
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    oh these are feinberg's...

    awesome...do work

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    Veteran Member Four Rings MikeyB3's Avatar
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    SOLID! Now go enjoy it!

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    Veteran Member Three Rings 1thenaton1's Avatar
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    Dem golden F21s aint gonna last if yer doing FATS pulls with cold oil and coolant. That being said, way faster than my daz tuned on 91. Leave it as is and enjoy it!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1thenaton1 View Post
    Dem golden F21s aint gonna last if yer doing FATS pulls with cold oil and coolant. That being said, way faster than my daz tuned on 91. Leave it as is and enjoy it!
    I put 20k on them @26psi before they were installed on this car. They'll never die. Watch your fucking mouth!
    B5 S4- K24s, built bottom end, E85 - Gone
    B9 S4- EPL/AWE
    996TT X50 - Marski 700hp

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1thenaton1 View Post
    Dem golden F21s aint gonna last if yer doing FATS pulls with cold oil and coolant. That being said, way faster than my daz tuned on 91. Leave it as is and enjoy it!
    Lol I was wondering how long before someone commented on that.

    Both sensors are bad, and my low coolant sensor needs a new connector.

    I am always logging, and the ecm sensor works fine. Temps were around 88-89*C, and my FATS spot is about 30 minutes from my house.

    I like to live on the edge, and now its too cold to be doing non essential repairs.

    I've got a valve cover set, and new plug boots I've been sitting on for months. Between lazyness and now cold, I'll probably do the boots when my plugs go out... Valve covers, meh probably when the engine comes back out for some 25 cent clip.

    Plugs will be soon though, getting occasional misfires under WOT. They creeped up on me like this last time, then one day its just undriveable past cruising throttle.
    Stock engine with some rods tossed in. 11.25@132mph.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by CELison View Post
    I put 20k on them @26psi before they were installed on this car. They'll never die. Watch your fucking mouth!
    Truth. I will be sure to post up though if they do let go.
    Stock engine with some rods tossed in. 11.25@132mph.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings 1thenaton1's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselElectric View Post
    Both sensors are bad
    Well then, hoon on!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    That's awesome. I wish I could break into the 2's lol. I'm also on F21's with 93 and meth but haven't managed better than a 3.1.

    Maybe I'll have to try now that it's gotten colder

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    Account Terminated Four Rings
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    Awesome pull. I've managed a couple 3.1's and one 3.0 but I haven't crossed into the 2's yet. Maybe I should go out logging in this colder weather.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings FlyboyS4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselElectric View Post
    Victory dance. Sure it's a little cold (temp is in Celsius), but still very conservative corrections, and the car is running rich (low 11s, to 10.8 in the top end). I'm happy, could push it more but I feel I'm at a happy safe limit.

    25psi to redline, dual d07 nozzles with 100% methanol.
    Do you know the vehicle weight during this session?

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    Established Member Two Rings Maruzen75's Avatar
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    This is on 91 right? Very impressive sir, if/when you eventually go e85 will you keep meth? I would love to see an all out e85, rods, k04/f21, meth build and what numbers it would put down
    Nogaro stage III

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyboyS4 View Post
    Do you know the vehicle weight during this session?
    2000 model, minus CD changer, spare tire, and tool kit. Otherwise, full weight with a little over 1/2 tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maruzen75 View Post
    This is on 91 right? Very impressive sir, if/when you eventually go e85 will you keep meth? I would love to see an all out e85, rods, k04/f21, meth build and what numbers it would put down
    93+ a ton of methanol. I'll probably try it with methanol for the cooling if it benefits. We're talking at least a year out though. Buying a house in August, then get am SUV for the wife/kids, steal her Saab, and see how far I can push this car.

    I ran a 3.02 the day before this, and a 3.05 last night. Now I've hit the 2's I'm going to calm down a bit. I have to say though I'm sold on 100% methanol. I was getting 6-8* or so with 50/50. Granted I pulled 1 degree across the board since going 100% as well.
    Stock engine with some rods tossed in. 11.25@132mph.

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