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    What company is most worth the money for a set of Adjustable Upper Control Arms? This is not for track just to help get me closest to OEM standards.
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    you should do a quick search. a couple people have had issues with some Adjustable UCA's hitting the fender liner or some electrical wiring. I forget if this was a problem with all or just some. Either way, all you need to do is tie back the wires so they are not in the way. I dont see this as an issue but something to be aware of.

    I have eurocode spherical rod ended UCA's but have not installed them yet. waiting until i go coils next yr
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    I have done searches but can not figure out over the 034 motorsport or the SPC engineering or if there are other options I am missing. Also is it worth getting the wire relocation kit or just use tie straps and do it on your own? Looking for some advice from anyone who has these installed please
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    SPC's have been rock solid for me including when I hit a pothole so hard I trashed a BBS CH-R. Would buy again.

    There are other manufacturers, I don't remember the name but there's a German one ot there

    Zip ties is fine for the wires/cables

    It's been a while sine I put these on but iirc but because of the geometry they'll all rub, you have to mess around with camber a little to get them to work or else do a little creative cutting but it's pretty minor.

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    I have the spc and they work fine for me. 034 is nice because they can be rebuilt, but I'm pretty sure you can't adjust them while installed. So might be more work for an alignment tech to dial you in. The wire rubbing issue happens when you drop the car low but want to retain conservative stock camber.
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    I just put on SPC with coilovers. No issues yet bUt it has only been 2 weeks.

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    i went with the 034 ones strictly cause they could be rebuilt. The adjust-ability is much easier on the spc ones, but i figured that was a 1 time thing in my case, so didn't outweigh the rebuild factor. over 30K on mine now, no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drob23 View Post
    I have the spc and they work fine for me. 034 is nice because they can be rebuilt, but I'm pretty sure you can't adjust them while installed. So might be more work for an alignment tech to dial you in. The wire rubbing issue happens when you drop the car low but want to retain conservative stock camber.
    We use a rod-end design instead of a turnbuckle to increase strength and prevent alignment creep, but you still can adjust them without removing them from the car completely.

    You have to remove the safety washer and bolt from the pin, and slide the spherical off of the pin to adjust length. We ship the control arms adjusted to the stock length, and each half turn on the rod end (approximately 1/36") corresponds to approximately 0.1 degrees of camber. This makes it easy to get the length right the first time, without any worries of alignment creep when tightening. It is, however, more work to adjust than a turnbuckle-style arm.

    Our control arms are also rebuildable with a readily-available inner bushing, rod end, and dust boot kit and they don't hit the fender liner or any factory wiring.

    We offer both Camber Correcting B8 Audi S4 Adjustable Upper Control Arms, and Track Spec B8 Audi S4 Adjustable Upper Control Arms to provide a wider range of adjustment depending on your alignment goals.



    As with all of our other adjustable control arms, we machine and assemble these in-house using billet aluminum for the bodies, steel pins and safety washers, Density Line inner bushings, and genuine Aurora spherical bearings.
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    For those with the SPC did you get the wire relocation kit or just move them on your own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuned4Rings View Post
    For those with the SPC did you get the wire relocation kit or just move them on your own?
    It depends on your setup...if your on coils and go flush or lower I would get the relocation kit...If you plan to stay with your vogt springs you may be alright depending on how low they go
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    Sticking with what I have just adding koni shocks and struts
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    You should be fine...I have the OE's and there is no issue
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    We tend to run the SPC on everything here. Bulletproof, quiet, and functional. All you need! Give me a shout if you would like a quote!
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    Quote Originally Posted by k9lovr View Post
    It depends on your setup...if your on coils and go flush or lower I would get the relocation kit...If you plan to stay with your vogt springs you may be alright depending on how low they go
    I used the control arms to go the opposite direction, moar camber
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    Do you think Adjustable Control Arms are a must for lowered cars?
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    Adjustable Upper Control Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuned4Rings View Post
    Do you think Adjustable Control Arms are a must for lowered cars?
    Depending how much a car is dropped, camber specs may no longer be within Audi's acceptable range. AUC are intended to provide the flexibility to either go with more camber as specified drob23, or return camber specs back into the acceptable range. An alignment may solve camber issues. However, if you notice an undesirable amount of inner tire wear after an alignment, AUC may be a wise investment.

    Which is the case I currently find myself in.

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    Went through stock tires in 15000 miles and got the car new put springs on within the first couple months and did get alignment. It was not far off but it was not OEM spec and tires did not wear on outside or inside kind of wore dead even on center. My new tires are better then factory but do not want to go through them as quick.
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    I have the SPC's but some will say they are not needed with the springs...I had tire wear issues on my A4 when I had just the springs which is why I got them....no issue since
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    Besides fixing camber are they any better than OEM control arms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuned4Rings View Post
    Besides fixing camber are they any better than OEM control arms?
    My understanding is yes they are
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    Just build quality or other reasons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuned4Rings View Post
    Besides fixing camber are they any better than OEM control arms?
    Good question!

    034Motorsport Density Line Adjustable Upper Control Arms feature upgraded Density Line inner bushings to prevent deflection and maintain proper suspension geometry under load. The arms themselves are also machined from billet aluminum, and are stronger than the factory cast aluminum bodies. Another added bonus is that our kits are fully rebuildable for ~$95.

    Hope that helps!
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    I would love to have front camber adjustability but haven't pulled the trigger yet due to reliability. Especially in the saltiest city ever.
    I feel like any aftermarket solution is going to clunk or fail way faster than OEM and I just can't deal with that $##! anymore :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 034Motorsport View Post
    Good question!

    034Motorsport Density Line Adjustable Upper Control Arms feature upgraded Density Line inner bushings to prevent deflection and maintain proper suspension geometry under load. The arms themselves are also machined from billet aluminum, and are stronger than the factory cast aluminum bodies. Another added bonus is that our kits are fully rebuildable for ~$95.

    Hope that helps!
    What kind of camber range would I expect to have with either of your control arms, if I am at stock height?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drob23 View Post
    I used the control arms to go the opposite direction, moar camber
    drob how much camber were you able to achieve with the SPC's? I'm moving to Hoosier A7s for next season. They recommend at least 3° of camber for even track wear.

    If you wouldn't mind sharing with me your specs all around I'd appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurotic View Post
    What kind of camber range would I expect to have with either of your control arms, if I am at stock height?
    If you are at stock ride height, our Track Spec arms would give you approximately an additional -0.4 to -2.6 degrees of camber adjustment. The Camber Correcting arms would give you up to approximately 2.1 degrees of positive camber adjustment.
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    I have the SPC's with Bilstein PSS10 Coilovers. No issues, no noises. Love the whole package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbullin2 View Post
    drob how much camber were you able to achieve with the SPC's? I'm moving to Hoosier A7s for next season. They recommend at least 3° of camber for even track wear.

    If you wouldn't mind sharing with me your specs all around I'd appreciate it!
    I'm definitely not the most aggressive guy, go talk to westwest or boro for the real deal. Mine is meant to be a street/track balance

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    Quote Originally Posted by drob23 View Post
    go talk to westwest ... for the real deal.
    Probably the 1st person to say this seriously
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    Quote Originally Posted by creativecody View Post
    I have the SPC's with Bilstein PSS10 Coilovers. No issues, no noises. Love the whole package.
    Same and same
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    25 5/8" FTG, -1.7 Camber, spc control arm just clears the inner fender pinch weld, no relocation kit needed.





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    Are the 034 Control Arms the only ones that can be rebuilt? This is a tough choice just for some control arms. Now just need my Koni shocks and struts to go on sale and make my mind up on control arms and call it a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Owl View Post
    Probably the 1st person to say this seriously
    Haha well being a myopic troll doesn't necessarily exclude one from running excessive camber nor installing some good parts. West has arguably the best coilover setup and best BBK of anyone on any Audi boards. The aero stuff and gutted caged interior with race seats on the other hand....
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    bumping this thread.... going to install PSS10.. looking for a mild drop. Considering Upper control arm as my OEM are almost 100k kms. First of all, being CPO, is it something that could be changed on warranty ? or it's considered wear item ?

    2) I just want OEM spec and fix any possible slop/slack because my UAC have 100k kms already. Is there cheaper alternative than those spherical busing ? ( Peoples usually don't recommend spherical bushing ( think sway bar end links..) for salty climate and I don't want to rebuild every 1-2 years lol) I saw those whitelines bushing, could this be worth a shot ??

    http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...=KCA420&sq=330

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