is anybody here running meth?

**shayan_a4** · 10-03-2015 07:41 PM

just like the threads title says, is anybody here running mater/meth injection?

**blbroo** · 10-03-2015 07:44 PM

I just put -20 washer fluid in the reservoir tonight and am going to try to put this on tomorrow.

There are at least two guys running w/m on here

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**shayan_a4** · 10-03-2015 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by blbroo

I just put -20 washer fluid in the reservoir tonight and am going to try to put this on tomorrow.

There are at least two guys running w/m on here

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for sure bro let me know how it goes

**shayan_a4** · 10-03-2015 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by blbroo

I just put -20 washer fluid in the reservoir tonight and am going to try to put this on tomorrow.

There are at least two guys running w/m on here

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also which kit did you get and where did you get it from?

**Smellie** · 10-03-2015 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by blbroo

I just put -20 washer fluid in the reservoir tonight and am going to try to put this on tomorrow.

There are at least two guys running w/m on here

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I was thinking of doing this before k04.. let me know your rebroo ;)

**Carlos74** · 10-03-2015 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by blbroo

I just put -20 washer fluid in the reservoir tonight and am going to try to put this on tomorrow.

There are at least two guys running w/m on here

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You should do a DYI...

I might try running this set up as well.

**Sal_rah** · 10-04-2015 05:02 AM

I read this thread so wrong lol...

**Project Quattro** · 10-04-2015 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by Sal_rah

I read this thread so wrong lol...

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**blbroo** · 10-04-2015 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos74

You should do a DYI...

I might try running this set up as well.

I will grab my real camera and document my work. Gonna start in a few minutes after some coffee.

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**dscline** · 10-04-2015 10:21 AM

For reference, there's a huge water/meth thread in the Golf forums. Sometimes I'll troll over there because there's a lot more activity, and they essentially have the same engine less Valvelift.

**o1turbo30v** · 10-04-2015 10:39 AM

I used to but that damn Breaking Bad brought to much attention to it so I just run Coke now.

**crash1121** · 10-04-2015 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by o1turbo30v

I used to but that damn Breaking Bad brought to much attention to it so I just run Coke now.

Rocks, or powder? Coke sounds like a much classier injection process than meth...

**blbroo** · 10-04-2015 04:03 PM

I have it hooked up per instructions but am not getting spray. Need to see what wire others used off the maf and for switched 12v

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**blbroo** · 10-04-2015 05:38 PM

Figured it out. Going for my first huff run now.

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**crash1121** · 10-04-2015 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by blbroo

Figured it out. Going for my first huff run now.

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Hope it performs like James Brown did!

**blbroo** · 10-04-2015 05:55 PM

Green means that it's getting the juice.

Slightly downhill launch at the end.

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**blbroo** · 10-04-2015 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by crash1121

Hope it performs like James Brown did!

That is awesome

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**crash1121** · 10-04-2015 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by blbroo

Green means that it's getting the juice.

Slightly downhill launch at the end.

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Sweet! You content with the results?

**blbroo** · 10-04-2015 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by crash1121

Sweet! You content with the results?

No real gains without a tune, besides the cooling. Need a race file to take advantage of the higher octane. Not sure if I will get it with the k03 or wait for the k04.

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**Carlos74** · 10-04-2015 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by blbroo

No real gains without a tune, besides the cooling. Need a race file to take advantage of the higher octane. Not sure if I will get it with the k03 or wait for the k04.

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Glad you got it working!! So what's next? Besides this:

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**blbroo** · 10-05-2015 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos74

Glad you got it working!! So what's next? Besides this:

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Haha. I am going to use your meme in their thread. Was told it is really close and ready for US use.

Nothing lined up next besides putting non-drilled rotors back on the rear to stop the ticking.

On my wish list is an ECS short shifter and maybe some wheels.

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**AUDIMAN33** · 10-05-2015 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by o1turbo30v

I used to but that damn Breaking Bad brought to much attention to it so I just run Coke now.

Coke is indeed much easier to run now a days.

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**blbroo** · 10-05-2015 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by shayan_a4

also which kit did you get and where did you get it from?

I had USP price match this company.
http://www.vr-speed.com/snow-perform...olkswagen.html

The kit I got had the reservoir included and three nozzles, 100, 175 and 375. The product description states that it only comes with 2.

The install wasn't technically very difficult, just a lot of manual work. I put the pump and solenoid under the front driver side fender, where my stock intercooler pipe sound box used to be. After I was done, I saw where a guy put all of the components near or in the cabin air intake, which is a neat idea, but might slow down air flow.

**STA4** · 10-05-2015 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by blbroo

Nothing lined up next besides putting non-drilled rotors back on the rear to stop the ticking.

Is it really so bad that you have to replace them? How loud is it and during what type of braking? Do you have the drilled/slotted rotors at all 4 corners?

**blbroo** · 10-05-2015 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by STA4

Is it really so bad that you have to replace them? How loud is it and during what type of braking? Do you have the drilled/slotted rotors at all 4 corners?

It is that bad. Sounds like I have a few rocks in both rear tires. I can get a recording later today.

Happens even when not braking, and yeah. d/s on all four.

**Carlos74** · 10-05-2015 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by blbroo

I had USP price match this company.
http://www.vr-speed.com/snow-perform...olkswagen.html

The kit I got had the reservoir included and three nozzles, 100, 175 and 375. The product description states that it only comes with 2.

The install wasn't technically very difficult, just a lot of manual work. I put the pump and solenoid under the front driver side fender, where my stock intercooler pipe sound box used to be. After I was done, I saw where a guy put all of the components near or in the cabin air intake, which is a neat idea, but might slow down air flow.

Did you have to buy the solenoid separately?
How did you set up the line from w/w fluid tank? Any pics?

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**blbroo** · 10-05-2015 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos74

Did you have to buy the solenoid separately?
How did you set up the line from w/w fluid tank? Any pics?

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Yeah, I bought the solenoid separately. It is required if you are running the injection after the T/B.

For the w/w tank, I drilled a hole and tried to push the hose up through the tank to attach one end of the bulkhead fitting that comes with the kit. I couldn't get it through from the top or bottom, so I used the fitting that came for the Snow tank and threaded it into the w/w reservoir, then used a lot of sealant around it.

Have some pics that I will post off of my phone. I couldn't find any of my S/D cards for my real camera.

I pulled the fender liner back and removed the pump from the bottom of the tank It is easy to remove, just pulls up and out. Then, I drilled the hole in a flat area right behind where the pump wires connect. I'm an idiot and filled up the tank the night before after purposely draining it for a few days prior, so I wasted a gallon of $2 washer fluid.

Then ran the hose over the fender liner to the front side and connected it to the solenoid, then a short tube to the pump, then a section to the nozzle holder.

Wiring was pretty easy. I used the same 12V that I used for the podi gauge switched source and a ground under the washer filler tube.

I had to buy the throttle body adapter too. This one looks like it has the right screws, mine didn't.
http://www.uspmotorsports.com/IE-2.0...tle-Plate.html

**Smellie** · 10-05-2015 09:05 AM

What are the downsides of running meth?

and how long did this install take you? I'd probably have to double it with my dumbass behind the wrench.

I would just run 100 oct but i have to drive 15 miles to get it.. didn't seem worth it

**blbroo** · 10-05-2015 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Smellie

What are the downsides of running meth?

and how long did this install take you? I'd probably have to double it with my dumbass behind the wrench.

I would just run 100 oct but i have to drive 15 miles to get it.. didn't seem worth it

I think it would be bad if you are running a race tune and let the tank go empty. Not sure there is much bad if you keep the system set right and maintained. Make sure you are not injecting too early and risking quench.

I am not sure how long it took me all together. I stepped away quite a few times for long periods. I'd guess that I could do it again in two or three hours, if I had everything set out and ready to go.

When I got it back together the first time, the car ran like crap and a bunch of warning lights came up. I quickly remembered that I jumped the gun and had not put the intake hose back on the throttle body and left one sensor unplugged.

This morning, the car runs super smooth. I'm going to add a bottle or two of HEET tonight to bump up the meth content. HEET is 99.9% methanol. Snow recommends doing this.

People talk about risks of having a W/M tank in the car and what if something catches on fire. 50/50 W/M isn't far from washer fluid and, itself, makes a good windshield cleaner and deicer.

**Carlos74** · 10-05-2015 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by blbroo

Yeah, I bought the solenoid separately. It is required if you are running the injection after the T/B.

For the w/w tank, I drilled a hole and tried to push the hose up through the tank to attach one end of the bulkhead fitting that comes with the kit. I couldn't get it through from the top or bottom, so I used the fitting that came for the Snow tank and threaded it into the w/w reservoir, then used a lot of sealant around it.

Have some pics that I will post off of my phone. I couldn't find any of my S/D cards for my real camera.

I pulled the fender liner back and removed the pump from the bottom of the tank It is easy to remove, just pulls up and out. Then, I drilled the hole in a flat area right behind where the pump wires connect. I'm an idiot and filled up the tank the night before after purposely draining it for a few days prior, so I wasted a gallon of $2 washer fluid.

Then ran the hose over the fender liner to the front side and connected it to the solenoid, then a short tube to the pump, then a section to the nozzle holder.

Wiring was pretty easy. I used the same 12V that I used for the podi gauge switched source and a ground under the washer filler tube.

I had to buy the throttle body adapter too. This one looks like it has the right screws, mine didn't.
http://www.uspmotorsports.com/IE-2.0...tle-Plate.html

Great info! I appreciate it!!

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**blbroo** · 10-05-2015 12:32 PM

Drove the car to a dentist appointment 20 minutes from work then pushed it hard on the way back to work, with a stop off at home. It usually seems to me that the car pulls a good deal harder during cool, drizzly days. It feels like that with the W/M and it's 70 and sunny outside. Now, I am more interested in seeing what the 100 octane file would add.

Gonna try the 375 nozzle tomorrow instead of the 175 and up the meth content.

**Smellie** · 10-05-2015 12:35 PM

Any dyno runs planned? Or are you waiting for k04?

**blbroo** · 10-05-2015 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Smellie

Any dyno runs planned? Or are you waiting for k04?

The shop where I would get my GIAC tun has a all wheel drive dyno. But the numbers don't mean much compared to other peoples, due to variances. Would be interesting anyway to have him put it on before the K04 then after.

I think the GIAC tune takes a day or two to really come into it's own, so it would mean another 40 minute trip down besides the one to get the file.

**ddun** · 10-06-2015 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by blbroo

I had USP price match this company.
[url]http://www.vr-speed.com/snow-performance-20012-2-0t-stage-2-2-0t-fsi-boost-cooler-water-methanol-injection-kit-volkswagen.html[/url

Oh that's my car, those pics still up? Haha

**blbroo** · 10-06-2015 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by ddun

Oh that's my car, those pics still up? Haha

Still have it? Hopefully you've cleaned that dirt and dust. :-)

I guess you never ran this with the K03, right? I put the 375 nozzle in this morning and bumped the meth level of my reservoir up. I can feel the difference and am wondering if there is enough of a bump from the k03 100 file to warrant $150 and 40 miles to the tuner.

**ddun** · 10-06-2015 06:17 PM

Why 150$? That's a lot if they're charging you just for labor. The difference is the power difference between 100oct and 91oct tunes. Right now you're only benefiting from as if you had an intercooler.

**blbroo** · 10-06-2015 06:34 PM

$50 for labor $100 for the file

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**blbroo** · 10-18-2015 08:54 AM

The Boost Juice I ordered in late September finally arrived.

**blbroo** · 10-22-2015 08:09 AM

Curiosity overpowered frugality. Just set up an appointment to go get the 100 octane file loaded on Tuesday.

**The Infiltrator** · 10-22-2015 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by blbroo

I had USP price match this company.
http://www.vr-speed.com/snow-perform...olkswagen.html

The kit I got had the reservoir included and three nozzles, 100, 175 and 375. The product description states that it only comes with 2.

The install wasn't technically very difficult, just a lot of manual work. I put the pump and solenoid under the front driver side fender, where my stock intercooler pipe sound box used to be. After I was done, I saw where a guy put all of the components near or in the cabin air intake, which is a neat idea, but might slow down air flow.

That's a damn smart place to put that, I'll keep that in mind if I do this down the road.