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    Okay so I have a 2007 Audi s4 6 speed manual sprint blue with white leather. I love the 4.2 but the 6k-9k service bill is what’s making me wanna do an engine swap in it. I’ve been doing a lot of research and the 2.7t seems to be the obvious answer but I just wanna see if anyone else has any ideas.
    I’ve read that the 2.7t is full of problems I’m just looking for a motor with about 500-550 hp and that’s just as fun without having to worry about a 6k-9k dollar repair bill if the timing chain guides go out. Or anyone who would do the swap recommend for money I’m in the northeast part of the country. Thank you guys so much please link any forums pertaining to subject.


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    Motor swap options?

    I mean that’s what I’ve been quoted at the shops around my house and within my state. The more reliable the shop the higher the price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmcgrosky View Post
    I mean that’s what I’ve been quoted at the stops around my house and within my state. The more reliable the shop the higher the price.


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    I think the 2.7 gets a bad wrap from poor quality installs.

    I would 2.7 swap as there is a set recipe for 500whp already, and the complete swap. 07K is probably going to be more expensive but would be wicked. 3.0T is also super expensive but would probably be the most reliable. There are a pile of other motors to chose from. Hell, even a 06A topped with an AEB can yield 450whp, but the drivability might not be as refined as a 2.7.

    I'll buy your DTM if you decide to not go any route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gosser View Post
    I think the 2.7 gets a bad wrap from poor quality installs.

    I would 2.7 swap as there is a set recipe for 500whp already, and the complete swap. 07K is probably going to be more expensive but would be wicked. 3.0T is also super expensive but would probably be the most reliable. There are a pile of other motors to chose from. Hell, even a 06A topped with an AEB can yield 450whp, but the drivability might not be as refined as a 2.7.

    I'll buy your DTM if you decide to not go any route.
    PM’d you about selling it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmcgrosky View Post
    Okay so I have a 2007 Audi s4 6 speed manual sprint blue with white leather. I love the 4.2 but the 6k-9k service bill is what’s making me wanna do an engine swap in it. I’ve been doing a lot of research and the 2.7t seems to be the obvious answer but I just wanna see if anyone else has any ideas.
    I’ve read that the 2.7t is full of problems I’m just looking for a motor with about 500-550 hp and that’s just as fun without having to worry about a 6k-9k dollar repair bill if the timing chain guides go out. Or anyone who would do the swap recommend for money I’m in the northeast part of the country. Thank you guys so much please link any forums pertaining to subject.


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    As long as we're asking questions, why is an engine swap the remedy for the cost of a timing service? A big part of the bill for the timing service (when you have someone else do it) is pulling the engine and transmission out of the car and putting it back in. The same things would happen with an engine swap, plus you have to buy the alternative engine, although maybe you could sell the BHF to defray the cost somewhat. If you do the timing and maybe some other preventative services (oil check valves come to mind, which also renews the valley pan and oil filter canister gaskets, and the engine and transmission mounts) and put the BHF back in, you're at least as worry-free going forward as you'd expect to be putting some other used engine in, and without the integration headaches. Renewing the timing with the updated aluminum guides lets you expect it to be the lifetime installation it was originally intended to be; one and done with the timing service. Of course it would be "only" the 340 crankshaft horsepower of the stock BHF, not 500+, but it didn't have 500+ when you bought it and "loved" it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdsb6s4 View Post
    Why do you want an engine with that much power? Cars and coffe bragging right or are you actually going to learn how to use that power on the track?
    Wow.

    One has to justify why they want a given amount of power from their car?? 😕
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nollywood View Post
    Wow.

    One has to justify why they want a given amount of power from their car?? 😕
    I just feel that is a lot of money wasted to let it sit good in a parking lot unless he decided to utilize. I’ve been in both worlds (show car / tracking) and I feel my money spent tracking has been much more worthwhile. To each it’s own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NALS4 View Post
    As long as we're asking questions, why is an engine swap the remedy for the cost of a timing service? A big part of the bill for the timing service (when you have someone else do it) is pulling the engine and transmission out of the car and putting it back in. The same things would happen with an engine swap, plus you have to buy the alternative engine, although maybe you could sell the BHF to defray the cost somewhat. If you do the timing and maybe some other preventative services (oil check valves come to mind, which also renews the valley pan and oil filter canister gaskets, and the engine and transmission mounts) and put the BHF back in, you're at least as worry-free going forward as you'd expect to be putting some other used engine in, and without the integration headaches. Renewing the timing with the updated aluminum guides lets you expect it to be the lifetime installation it was originally intended to be; one and done with the timing service. Of course it would be "only" the 340 crankshaft horsepower of the stock BHF, not 500+, but it didn't have 500+ when you bought it and "loved" it.

    That’s my route I took. Purchased a younger engine via “vinnysS4” and while the engine was out had the tensioners and guides all replaced with new check valves and SAI delete. Just need to spend another $7-$8k for a VF charger and have that 500+ crank HP with the reliable TVS1900 charger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdsb6s4 View Post
    Why do you want an engine with that much power? Cars and coffe bragging right or are you actually going to learn how to use that power on the track?
    I’m actually gonna take it to the track if I keep it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NALS4 View Post
    As long as we're asking questions, why is an engine swap the remedy for the cost of a timing service? A big part of the bill for the timing service (when you have someone else do it) is pulling the engine and transmission out of the car and putting it back in. The same things would happen with an engine swap, plus you have to buy the alternative engine, although maybe you could sell the BHF to defray the cost somewhat. If you do the timing and maybe some other preventative services (oil check valves come to mind, which also renews the valley pan and oil filter canister gaskets, and the engine and transmission mounts) and put the BHF back in, you're at least as worry-free going forward as you'd expect to be putting some other used engine in, and without the integration headaches. Renewing the timing with the updated aluminum guides lets you expect it to be the lifetime installation it was originally intended to be; one and done with the timing service. Of course it would be "only" the 340 crankshaft horsepower of the stock BHF, not 500+, but it didn't have 500+ when you bought it and "loved" it.
    That’s is correct and I do still love the car but if I can get more for less I would like to plus Change is always a fun thing love the BHF but would like to see what my options are.

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