Best Spring/Shock combo

**AFbb2001** · 10-08-2005 07:51 AM

What does everyone think the best spring/shock combo is?

**fast_audi** · 10-08-2005 08:08 AM

h andr race/bilstein grooved

**fixn2xlr8** · 10-08-2005 08:45 AM

Originally posted by fast_audi
h andr race/bilstein grooved

Best for the money IMO. Thats what I got.

**spool twice** · 10-08-2005 09:29 AM

i hear h&R race and koni adj. yellows. whats the difference between these and the bilsteins?

**ny02s4** · 10-08-2005 04:09 PM

Originally posted by spool twice
i hear h&R race and koni adj. yellows. whats the difference between these and the bilsteins?

Bilsteins are NOT adjustable as far as stiffness. Whereas the Konis are. But the only thing with the Konis is that you cannot adjust them once they are installed(no acess to the upper portion of shock). Its kind of like a one time thing so technically either is a good choice for a shock. Oh and the Bilstein's offered at ECS tuning have the optional "grooved" body to allow you to sit the spring a 1/2" lower or higher to even out the drop.

My question here is does KYB AGX have a shock for the S4? cause if they do then you can simply reach behind the wheel and turn a dial to the settings you like. My old car had these and it was perfect for when id have a full car of people going out for the night or for when i wanna mess around on some turns.

Ant

**QuickTip** · 10-08-2005 09:29 PM

May I suggest the Eibach Pro System. I originally had the H&R/Koni setup, and the car sat way too low for me, even at their highest setting. Plus the ride was harsh..

The matched Eibachs gave me a much nicer ride quality (closer to OEM), perfect ride height, and they're affordable.

I picked them up through Tire Rack. They don't currently list them on their site, but I'm sure if you gave the the part number [1546.780], they could quote it.

**derek** · 10-09-2005 07:59 AM

had the h&r/bilstein combo and it was way too soft ... now i have vogtland/koni and it is great .... way better than the h&r/bilstein setup

**jones3000** · 10-09-2005 06:05 PM

I can vouch for that. Bilstein is a bit soft. But anything harsher would be almost annoying.

**jkimspe** · 10-09-2005 07:07 PM

Originally posted by derek
had the h&r/bilstein combo and it was way too soft ... now i have vogtland/koni and it is great .... way better than the h&r/bilstein setup

thats the setup im planning to get

**imola_Jon** · 10-09-2005 11:32 PM

^me too, once PureMS has them back in stock. Anybody know where else to find them for a good price?

**Speedymon** · 10-10-2005 05:10 PM

I like the OEM setup are far as ride quality. It just sits too high and weight transfer is a bitch.

**Rican_S4** · 10-10-2005 07:58 PM

I love my MTM/Koni setup.

**derek** · 10-10-2005 09:25 PM

Originally posted by Speedymon
I like the OEM setup are far as ride quality. It just sits too high and weight transfer is a bitch.

with the vogtland/koni setup...ride feels almost as comfortable as stock but more responsive and way less body roll. i also forgot to mention that i had a floaty feeling with h&r/bilstein setup at high speeds which was one of the main reasons for switching to the vogtland setup

contact mike for any questions as he is very very informative and knows what he's talking about

**knl66** · 10-13-2005 11:45 AM

I'm with you speedymon, just ordered mine last week from purems.com...Damned backorders! I have a 98 non s4, I just want more aggressive handling but daily driver comfort, guess I'll have to wait and see if this does the trick.

**LEDFoot** · 10-13-2005 11:54 AM

what's the drop on a vogtland/koni setup?
I don't want too much of a drop, needs to be < 1 inch.

**knl66** · 10-13-2005 01:56 PM

From the posts i've seen, 1.4 inches front and rear.
I little more than I want too, but for the price and quality, what the hell. I'm dropping from stock (without sport suspension) so it'll look like more whatever I do.
I've got room to go down.....

**LEDFoot** · 10-13-2005 02:00 PM

prolly less of a drop for the S4?

**derek** · 10-13-2005 02:16 PM

Originally posted by LEDFoot
what's the drop on a vogtland/koni setup?
I don't want too much of a drop, needs to be < 1 inch.

think it was around there....if you want less than an inch you're going to need to go with coilovers. the vogtland was definitely less of a drop than with the h&r's. also the h&r's seemed to sag more and more with time

**ItsJ** · 11-13-2005 12:18 PM

is the grooved feature absolutely necessary. can i get a nice drop just with the bilstein shocks and hr sport springs.

thanks

**derek** · 11-13-2005 02:12 PM

oh you'll get a really big drop with the h&r/bilsteins. mine kept getting lower and lower as time went by....absolutely hated it especially with the crappy roads here in LA

**ny02s4** · 11-13-2005 05:01 PM

Originally posted by derek
oh you'll get a really big drop with the h&r/bilsteins. mine kept getting lower and lower as time went by....absolutely hated it especially with the crappy roads here in LA

how did that setup feel compared to stock though? im lookin for a nice low stance but better handling compared to stock.

thanks,

Ant

**ny02s4** · 11-13-2005 05:06 PM

Originally posted by derek
with the vogtland/koni setup...ride feels almost as comfortable as stock but more responsive and way less body roll. i also forgot to mention that i had a floaty feeling with h&r/bilstein setup at high speeds which was one of the main reasons for switching to the vogtland setup

contact mike for any questions as he is very very informative and knows what he's talking about

mike from where? maybe ill go with the Vogtland springs instead of H&R now...

Ant

**stealthysilver** · 11-13-2005 08:12 PM

Just found these and I am working my way to them. Motons Rock!!!
http://www.arlanmotorsport.com/about...audi_moton.asp

**DannyDeez** · 11-13-2005 08:29 PM

Originally posted by o1S4
is the grooved feature absolutely necessary. can i get a nice drop just with the bilstein shocks and hr sport springs.

thanks

No its not necessary at all. Its just in case you want the car to sit even lower.

**derek** · 11-14-2005 08:05 PM

Originally posted by ny02s4
how did that setup feel compared to stock though? im lookin for a nice low stance but better handling compared to stock.

thanks,

Ant

yes better handling as anything is better than stock. again the setup felt very floaty on the freeway almost to the point where it didn't feel safe during high speed sprints.

mike kim @ pure motorsports

**derek** · 11-14-2005 08:09 PM

Originally posted by DannyDeez
No its not necessary at all. Its just in case you want the car to sit even lower.

or in my case...sit higher

**One Nice Audi** · 11-14-2005 08:13 PM

I have H&R with Bilstein. I have 1 notch lower in the front so the ride is even out.

Here is how it look with 19s.

**Monchichi8** · 11-15-2005 02:05 PM

Originally posted by One Nice Audi
I have H&R with Bilstein. I have 1 notch lower in the front so the ride is even out.

Here is how it look with 19s.

Would they be Race or Sport springs?Once again..I LOVE you car!

**batmannie** · 11-16-2005 04:28 AM

i have the same setup

**route66** · 11-16-2005 09:32 AM

H&R sport and Bilstein sport is what i am running, very happy but after reading this thread i wonder about the floaty fealing others talk about.

**One Nice Audi** · 11-16-2005 01:16 PM

Sport.

**fubacari** · 11-17-2005 10:07 PM

Originally posted by AFbb2001
What does everyone think the best spring/shock combo is?

what is your budget?

also, when you mean "best," r u referring to performance outright or combination of (compromise between) performance and ride comfort?

take care.

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