Auto or Manual Shifting in Dynamic Mode

[GT-R & S4]

I am so used to putting my S4 in manual mode and shifting with the paddles, that I decided to just keep it in auto while changing to Dynamic mode for a change of pace. Holy Cow, what a difference! I didn't launch it, but from different speeds this sucker took off like nobody's business (Stage 2 engine and transmission tune)! There are times I will prefer to paddle shift, but I can see if I want some serious acceleration, auto appears to be the way to go. I even had a guy on a bike take off at a light, in which he was at the head of the line of three lanes, thinking he'd move well past everyone - except me.

[Pyromatic177]

Huh, wouldn't have expected it to be that way. Cause as you know without the DSG tune it shifts way earlier in auto unless you floor it.

[Maitre Absolut]

Cause as you know without the DSG tune it shifts way earlier in auto unless you floor it.

Not in S mode, which is what hes referring to.

Also there is no difference in acceleration, it just means you are keeping the RPMs too low in manual mode.

[drob23]

When you put the trans in automode (vs dynamic), it filters the pedal input a lot. So part of what you are feeling isn't that the car is slower, it's just that it takes longer for the pedal input to register with the ECM. I prefer to drive in dynamic/manual mode all the time. Even in sunday traffic. I prefer the immediacy of the throttle pedal, and can shift the trans myself to keep it in high gear for regular work driving. I re-enabled the auto downshift with the APR TCU tune, so I can blip the kick down to downshift if I need some immediate torque.

[Pyromatic177]

I was referring to Dynamic Mode. Should've clarified. Even being the case when my S4 is in dynamic it's fun but like I said it doesn't shift at 6800RPM unless you floor it.

[Pyromatic177]

Well my whole point I'm trying to make is I want the Stage 2 and DSG tune lol

[raudiace4]

I rarely ever drive my car in Dynamic anymore, it stays in comfort or auto 80% of the time bc of traffic, and soccer moms doing 5 under the limit on one lane roads.

[hotleadsingergu]

There's a bit of confusion here. In Dynamic mode, the thing that's really affecting drive and acceleration is Sport mode. Dynamic automatically switches the car into Sport mode, instead of Drive. Sport mode keeps the revs up higher, generally in a gear lower than Drive would, and won't ever put the car into 7th. You notice a lot more immediate acceleration because you're closer to the power band.

You can do the same thing in any mode just by dropping the gear selector (which will switch you to Sport mode). I do it every once in awhile when I'm coming up to a turn that I want to accelerate a bit harder out of, since it'll downshift up to the turn and maintain the gear out of it. Or just hit the paddles and handle it yourself.

[ThatOneDude]

There's a bit of confusion here. In Dynamic mode, the thing that's really affecting drive and acceleration is Sport mode. Dynamic automatically switches the car into Sport mode, instead of Drive. Sport mode keeps the revs up higher, generally in a gear lower than Drive would, and won't ever put the car into 7th. You notice a lot more immediate acceleration because you're closer to the power band.

You can do the same thing in any mode just by dropping the gear selector (which will switch you to Sport mode). I do it every once in awhile when I'm coming up to a turn that I want to accelerate a bit harder out of, since it'll downshift up to the turn and maintain the gear out of it. Or just hit the paddles and handle it yourself.

Ok wait. Just for clarification, if I'm in Dynamic and the shifter is sitting in the "D/S" slot but to the left (so in "D"), this means it's automatically in "S" anyway?

Also, I've heard all these people talk about being in S mode using the auto DSG, but every time I try pushing the lever over to the right into "S", the auto transmission goes away and the car won't change gears unless I do it manually. Am I missing something.

...and before any of you roll your eyes like... "omg what a NOOB". Well, yes I am a very new noob. Never had an S4 and I just bought this one a couple weeks ago. I don't even know how to work the navigation yet.

[s4_209]

Ok wait. Just for clarification, if I'm in Dynamic and the shifter is sitting in the "D/S" slot but to the left (so in "D"), this means it's automatically in "S" anyway?

Also, I've heard all these people talk about being in S mode using the auto DSG, but every time I try pushing the lever over to the right into "S", the auto transmission goes away and the car won't change gears unless I do it manually. Am I missing something.

...and before any of you roll your eyes like... "omg what a NOOB". Well, yes I am a very new noob. Never had an S4 and I just bought this one a couple weeks ago. I don't even know how to work the navigation yet.

After you put the shifter into "D", grab the shifter and pull it back, let go and it'll swap to "S". Pull the shifter back again and let go and it will go back to "D". You don't necessarily have to let go but it may help explain it better. You don't have to push the shifter button either to swap from "D" to "S" or "S" to "D"

[Pyromatic177]

With the B8.5's. With my B8 with the Drive Select the sport mode is "Dynamic"

[ThatOneDude]

After you put the shifter into "D", grab the shifter and pull it back, let go and it'll swap to "S". Pull the shifter back again and let go and it will go back to "D". You don't necessarily have to let go but it may help explain it better. You don't have to push the shifter button either to swap from "D" to "S" or "S" to "D"

by "pull it back" I would think you mean to move it toward the MMI console buttons... in the direction toward the rear of the car (where there is an arrow just below "D/S")?

Interesting. That's not very intuitive. If that is the case that's really funny because I thought since it said "D/S" that D is "left" and S is "right". I haven't ever tried going further down than D/S.

[Lamprey]

by "pull it back" I would think you mean to move it toward the MMI console buttons... in the direction toward the rear of the car (where there is an arrow just below "D/S")?

Interesting. That's not very intuitive. If that is the case that's really funny because I thought since it said "D/S" that D is "left" and S is "right". I haven't ever tried going further down than D/S.

Hope this isn't adding to the confusion as I have full ADS. So, when I select Dynamic mode, it puts the transmission into Sport (S) mode. When I select Comfort mode the transmission goes in to Drive (D) mode. In either transmission mode Sport or Drive, if you have the transmission "stick" in it's normal driving position you can tap/flick it back to switch between modes.

[ThatOneDude]

Hope this isn't adding to the confusion as I have full ADS. So, when I select Dynamic mode, it puts the transmission into Sport (S) mode. When I select Comfort mode the transmission goes in to Drive (D) mode. In either transmission mode Sport or Drive, if you have the transmission "stick" in it's normal driving position you can tap/flick it back to switch between modes.

you have B8 or B8.5?

[superswiss]

by "pull it back" I would think you mean to move it toward the MMI console buttons... in the direction toward the rear of the car (where there is an arrow just below "D/S")?

Interesting. That's not very intuitive. If that is the case that's really funny because I thought since it said "D/S" that D is "left" and S is "right". I haven't ever tried going further down than D/S.

Left is automatic mode and right is manual mode. While you are on the left you can toggle between D and S by pulling on the shifter in the direction of the arrow below D/S. You will see in the display between the gauges what mode you are currently in. The thing to understand is that if the transmission is in D, the engine and transmission are in Auto mode regardless of your current Drive Select mode. If the transmission is in S, then the engine and transmission is in Dynamic mode. If you put it to the right to go to manual mode, then you are either in Auto or Dynamic mode, depending on if you were previously in D or S. Moving the shifter to the right simply tells the transmission computer that you now want to shift manually instead of the computer deciding when to shift. In manual mode as far as the S4 is concerned it still shifts up automatically at redline and shifts down if you let the revs drop too low.

With the B8.5 it's nice that you don't have to mess with Drive Select if you want to drive a bit more spirited all of sudden. Simply pull back on the Shifter to put it in S. Steering etc. stays in the current Drive Select mode, but by putting the transmission in S you installed put the engine and transmission in Dynamic mode for crisper throttle response and higher shift points etc.

[Lamprey]

you have B8 or B8.5?

8.5 - 2013

[ThatOneDude]

Left is automatic mode and right is manual mode. While you are on the left you can toggle between D and S by pulling on the shifter in the direction of the arrow below D/S. You will see in the display between the gauges what mode you are currently in. The thing to understand is that if the transmission is in D, the engine and transmission are in Auto mode regardless of your current Drive Select mode. If the transmission is in S, then the engine and transmission is in Dynamic mode. If you put it to the right to go to manual mode, then you are either in Auto or Dynamic mode, depending on if you were previously in D or S. Moving the shifter to the right simply tells the transmission computer that you now want to shift manually instead of the computer deciding when to shift. In manual mode as far as the S4 is concerned it still shifts up automatically at redline and shifts down if you let the revs drop too low.

With the B8.5 it's nice that you don't have to mess with Drive Select if you want to drive a bit more spirited all of sudden. Simply pull back on the Shifter to put it in S. Steering etc. stays in the current Drive Select mode, but by putting the transmission in S you installed put the engine and transmission in Dynamic mode for crisper throttle response and higher shift points etc.

Fantastic! Thanks for the nice points here. So what this means is... I've yet to even feel my new S4 in Sport mode. lol

One thing that is odd though, is that of all the combos you described, none of them had anything to do with the Drive Select buttons. It's almost as if the Drive Select buttons do absolutely nothing. This can't be true, so maybe I'm misunderstanding.

[superswiss]

Fantastic! Thanks for the nice points here. So what this means is... I've yet to even feel my new S4 in Sport mode. lol

One thing that is odd though, is that of all the combos you described, none of them had anything to do with the Drive Select buttons. It's almost as if the Drive Select buttons do absolutely nothing. This can't be true, so maybe I'm misunderstanding.

Drive Select adjusts more than just the engine/transmission. It adjusts the characteristics of several subsystems, depending on how your car is equipped. Each Drive Select mode affects engine, transmission, steering, dynamic steering, suspension, sport differential etc. So for example if you change Drive Select to Dynamic it will make the steering stiffer, the suspension stiffer if you have adaptive suspension, it makes the sport differential more agile if you have the sport differential and it puts the transmission in Sport mode. They go together. However, you can put the transmission in Sport mode independently of Drive Select. That's really the main difference. In order to change how the steering feels, you have to change the Drive Select mode, however if you want to change how the transmission shifts and how responsive the throttle is you don't have to change the Drive Select mode at all, you can just put the transmission in S.

I rarely touch Drive Select. I have my Individual mode setup with all the components just how I like them for 90+% of my driving and I simply go back and forward between D, S and manual modes depending on how spirited I wanna drive. I only change my Drive Select mode if I go on a long highway trip in that case I change everything to Comfort mode or if I go for a drive in the canyons and in that case I change everything to Dynamic mode.

[Pyromatic177]

I could never tell if I have the adaptive suspension. I know I have drive select. That's kinda obvious lol

[hotleadsingergu]

Left is automatic mode and right is manual mode. While you are on the left you can toggle between D and S by pulling on the shifter in the direction of the arrow below D/S. You will see in the display between the gauges what mode you are currently in. The thing to understand is that if the transmission is in D, the engine and transmission are in Auto mode regardless of your current Drive Select mode. If the transmission is in S, then the engine and transmission is in Dynamic mode. If you put it to the right to go to manual mode, then you are either in Auto or Dynamic mode, depending on if you were previously in D or S. Moving the shifter to the right simply tells the transmission computer that you now want to shift manually instead of the computer deciding when to shift. In manual mode as far as the S4 is concerned it still shifts up automatically at redline and shifts down if you let the revs drop too low.

With the B8.5 it's nice that you don't have to mess with Drive Select if you want to drive a bit more spirited all of sudden. Simply pull back on the Shifter to put it in S. Steering etc. stays in the current Drive Select mode, but by putting the transmission in S you installed put the engine and transmission in Dynamic mode for crisper throttle response and higher shift points etc.

I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that's not true. The only difference between S and D is that S makes the transmission switch to a sportier shift pattern, while D is for better gas mileage/comfortable drive. It doesn't change anything about the engine or responsiveness. When you switch to M (Manual mode), it doesn't care at all what you were in (D or S), as that doesn't matter anymore (since you're doing the shifting, not the computer).

The Dynamic Select is for all systems, but the only interaction it has with D or S driving modes is that when you switch the transmission to Dynamic (whether in the Dynamic selection or Dynamic Transmission on Individual Settings), it switches to S. My Individual Settings mode is all Dynamic except for transmission, so if I switch to Individual it leaves it in the D driving mode. It's the same as putting it on the Dynamic selection and then switching from S to D.

[superswiss]

I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that's not true. The only difference between S and D is that S makes the transmission switch to a sportier shift pattern, while D is for better gas mileage/comfortable drive. It doesn't change anything about the engine or responsiveness. When you switch to M (Manual mode), it doesn't care at all what you were in (D or S), as that doesn't matter anymore (since you're doing the shifting, not the computer).

That's not true. I don't know how noticeable it is in the S4, but the difference in throttle response between S and D and whether you were in S or D before going to manual is quite noticeable.

[jareds941]

First off, if you spent a little time and read the owner's manual, (RTFM!) or hell, even watched it, you'd probably learn a hell of a lot about the car. Not understanding Sport mode on an S4 is crazy...prepare to have your mind blown if you like the car in D!

One thing to note is that even if you tell the car to always be in Dynamic mode, when you start it up, the ADS will be "Dynamic" but the trans/engine will not be in true Dynamic/S mode. You either need to push the ADS button again, or to pull back on the shifter.

[IIIAWOLIII]

That's not true. I don't know how noticeable it is in the S4, but the difference in throttle response between S and D and whether you were in S or D before going to manual is quite noticeable.

Also don't think there is a difference once you go to manual, whether you were in D or S prior. Will test on the way home, though. The only thing I can think is possibly throttle feel, but you are choosing the shift points yourself once in M.

[ThatOneDude]

That's not true. I don't know how noticeable it is in the S4, but the difference in throttle response between S and D and whether you were in S or D before going to manual is quite noticeable.

First off, if you spent a little time and read the owner's manual, (RTFM!) or hell, even watched it, you'd probably learn a hell of a lot about the car. Not understanding Sport mode on an S4 is crazy...prepare to have your mind blown if you like the car in D!

One thing to note is that even if you tell the car to always be in Dynamic mode, when you start it up, the ADS will be "Dynamic" but the trans/engine will not be in true Dynamic/S mode. You either need to push the ADS button again, or to pull back on the shifter.

Just got back from a little drive.

HOLY CRAP!!!!

It is not even close. I pulled back and saw the dash ticker change from "D" to "S". The rpms changed immediately even though I didn't do anything yet. I was just cruising and the rpms went from like 1500 to about 2000.

Then I touched the throttle. Daaaaaayyyyyyyum. Now I know why a lot of the YouTube Video Reviewers were always talking about the throttle response in the S4.

In normal D mode, I just was not feeling it. Actually wondered if I was expecting too much or what.

But in Sport mode, throttle response is INSTANT! It's like it wakes up the whole car.

Without any doubt on this planet, S mode absolutely positively tightens the acceleration characteristics of the S4.

[jareds941]

Just got back from a little drive.

HOLY CRAP!!!!

It is not even close. I pulled back and saw the dash ticker change from "D" to "S". The rpms changed immediately even though I didn't do anything yet. I was just cruising and the rpms went from like 1500 to about 2000.

Then I touched the throttle. Daaaaaayyyyyyyum. Now I know why a lot of the YouTube Video Reviewers were always talking about the throttle response in the S4.

In normal D mode, I just was not feeling it. Actually wondered if I was expecting too much or what.

But in Sport mode, throttle response is INSTANT! It's like it wakes up the whole car.

Without any doubt on this planet, S mode absolutely positively tightens the acceleration characteristics of the S4.

Glad you've finally "found it". I have to ask, how long have you had your S4?

[superswiss]

Also don't think there is a difference once you go to manual, whether you were in D or S prior. Will test on the way home, though. The only thing I can think is possibly throttle feel, but you are choosing the shift points yourself once in M.

Not sure what else to tell you. The ECU has two throttle maps it chooses from depending on the mode. This has been shown by folks who reverse engineered the ECU. The first throttle map is balanced and is chosen when the engine is in comfort or auto mode. As shown in the user manual, the engine and transmission don't actually differentiate between comfort and auto mode. The second throttle map is sporty and is chosen when the engine is in dynamic mode. The balanced throttle map feathers the throttle for comfort and requires more pedal travel to achieve the same response as the sporty throttle map. The differences are more pronounced in the lower rev band, the higher up you go the two maps pretty much align with each other.

On top of that with the DSG, the engine mode is tied to the transmission mode. D = comfort/auto and S = dynamic. There's no magic to the sport mode. It's just another word for dynamic. Therefore, it very much depends on what mode you are in before going to manual mode. Manual mode simply tells the TCU not to automatically shift gears anymore. That's all manual mode is. Whether you are in D or S before going to manual mode also affects how aggressive it shifts when you change gears.

[ThatOneDude]

Glad you've finally "found it". I have to ask, how long have you had your S4?

about 3 weeks.

but i've been absolutely swamped beyond all reason. working 11+ hour days M-F. So I literally have had zero time to dive into anything as far as learning the S4. I took my family to dinner the other night and my little guy (3yo) rolled down the back window from his carseat. My Mother in law was like "What! You don't have it locked??!"

I literally haven't even figured THAT out yet.

The only thing I've done is the wash detail job + Nano Resin.

Operation S4 - Detail + Protect" w/ Dr Beasley's Nano Resin + CarPro Leather Coating

[pdqgp]

One thing to note is that even if you tell the car to always be in Dynamic mode, when you start it up, the ADS will be "Dynamic" but the trans/engine will not be in true Dynamic/S mode. You either need to push the ADS button again, or to pull back on the shifter.

I can only speak for my car as it is since I had the APR Tunes applied right after it came off the showroom. I only test drove it stock.

However in my car the ADS Starts in Auto Mode. If I switch it to Dynamic which is where I spend about 75% of my time, the shifting automatically goes to S-Sport Mode. I don't have to pull back or push the ADS Button again.

I did use VAG COM to initiate the car to start in Individual Mode but then the MMI only showed either Individual or Auto. The other modes wouldn't show up. That said, I switched back o the standard settings and just resolved myself to starting it in auto and switching before I leave my parking spot.

I have my car configured to allow me to take over in manual mode simply by tapping the paddles or shifter. Works in any mode. What's nice is that I'm in full manual control until I come to a stop or simply pull the shifter back once then it goes to S or D whichever the default is for the mode I'm driving in.

[14S4GWM]

Theres a ton of effort in this thread. Go home and read everypage of your manual twice tonight. You will learn so much.

[Maitre Absolut]

Not sure what else to tell you. The ECU has two throttle maps it chooses from depending on the mode. This has been shown by folks who reverse engineered the ECU. The first throttle map is balanced and is chosen when the engine is in comfort or auto mode. As shown in the user manual, the engine and transmission don't actually differentiate between comfort and auto mode. The second throttle map is sporty and is chosen when the engine is in dynamic mode. The balanced throttle map feathers the throttle for comfort and requires more pedal travel to achieve the same response as the sporty throttle map. The differences are more pronounced in the lower rev band, the higher up you go the two maps pretty much align with each other.

On top of that with the DSG, the engine mode is tied to the transmission mode. D = comfort/auto and S = dynamic. There's no magic to the sport mode. It's just another word for dynamic. Therefore, it very much depends on what mode you are in before going to manual mode. Manual mode simply tells the TCU not to automatically shift gears anymore. That's all manual mode is. Whether you are in D or S before going to manual mode also affects how aggressive it shifts when you change gears.

I leave my car in ADS dynamic mode all the time (actually individual with all dynamic except the engine sound) and i alternate between Auto and Manual as I drive. When in auto I quickly override the S to D once and it will stay like that as i switch between manual and auto.

Does that mean my manual shifts are not on the aggressive map? (since i come from D to manual even though in full dynamic in the ADS)

[jareds941]

I can only speak for my car as it is since I had the APR Tunes applied right after it came off the showroom. I only test drove it stock.

However in my car the ADS Starts in Auto Mode. If I switch it to Dynamic which is where I spend about 75% of my time, the shifting automatically goes to S-Sport Mode. I don't have to pull back or push the ADS Button again.

I did use VAG COM to initiate the car to start in Individual Mode but then the MMI only showed either Individual or Auto. The other modes wouldn't show up. That said, I switched back o the standard settings and just resolved myself to starting it in auto and switching before I leave my parking spot.

I have my car configured to allow me to take over in manual mode simply by tapping the paddles or shifter. Works in any mode. What's nice is that I'm in full manual control until I come to a stop or simply pull the shifter back once then it goes to S or D whichever the default is for the mode I'm driving in.

Drive your car and have it in Dynamic/S mode. Then turn it off. Then start it up. On the dash, does it indicate "D" or "S". On my car, it would be "D" until I either pull the lever or push the ADS button. Sure, once the car is on and you push the ADS to Dynamic you don't need to pull back on the lever.

And 14S4GWM nailed it (and I said it earlier): READ THE MANUAL. It is one set of "instructions" that will bring you more pleasure by reading.

[moose_head]

Maybe mentioned earlier, but in S mode the car will seemingly never choose 7th gear except when cruise control is on. Maybe it does at some really high speed. Something to keep in mind if you are on the highway without using cruise. You need a VCDS mod to easily see which gear you are in.

[superswiss]

Does that mean my manual shifts are not on the aggressive map? (since i come from D to manual even though in full dynamic in the ADS)

That's correct. The transmission mode overrides the engine/transmission setting in Drive Select. It takes precedence over whatever you have set in Drive Select.

[brianc21]

Not sure what else to tell you. The ECU has two throttle maps it chooses from depending on the mode. This has been shown by folks who reverse engineered the ECU. The first throttle map is balanced and is chosen when the engine is in comfort or auto mode. As shown in the user manual, the engine and transmission don't actually differentiate between comfort and auto mode. The second throttle map is sporty and is chosen when the engine is in dynamic mode. The balanced throttle map feathers the throttle for comfort and requires more pedal travel to achieve the same response as the sporty throttle map. The differences are more pronounced in the lower rev band, the higher up you go the two maps pretty much align with each other.

On top of that with the DSG, the engine mode is tied to the transmission mode. D = comfort/auto and S = dynamic. There's no magic to the sport mode. It's just another word for dynamic. Therefore, it very much depends on what mode you are in before going to manual mode. Manual mode simply tells the TCU not to automatically shift gears anymore. That's all manual mode is. Whether you are in D or S before going to manual mode also affects how aggressive it shifts when you change gears.

Not sure the last part of this is correct. My car is always in dynamic mode, and will shift into 7th. Blip it into sport mode and it's more aggressive and tops out in 6th. So I can be in dynamic mode without being in sport mode. Pretty sure the D everyone is referring to stands for "drive", not dynamic.

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[superswiss]

Not sure the last part of this is correct. My car is always in dynamic mode, and will shift into 7th. Blip it into sport mode and it's more aggressive and tops out in 6th. So I can be in dynamic mode without being in sport mode. Pretty sure the D everyone is referring to stands for "drive", not dynamic.

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If you are in dynamic mode but the transmission is in D, then you are not in full dynamic mode. In this case the engine/transmission reverts to comfort/auto but everything else stays in dynamic.

[xtremepsionic]

Not sure the last part of this is correct. My car is always in dynamic mode, and will shift into 7th. Blip it into sport mode and it's more aggressive and tops out in 6th. So I can be in dynamic mode without being in sport mode. Pretty sure the D everyone is referring to stands for "drive", not dynamic.

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Strange, I think some cars with full ADS must have different settings. I drive in Individual mode all the time (toggle it from Auto to Individual on start up) with engine/transmission set to Dynamic. When the shifter is in the Drive position, the dash shows "S". However even in the S mode the transmission doesn't seem to hold gears any higher and it definitely goes into 7th on the highway.

Going to have to try the Dynamic mode instead of individual and see if there's a difference in how the DSG shifts, some of you are saying it shifts more aggressively?

[brianc21]

If you are in dynamic mode but the transmission is in D, then you are not in full dynamic mode. In this case the engine/transmission reverts to comfort/auto but everything else stays in dynamic.

Pretty sure this is also wrong. But I'm giving up on this thread now.

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[Maitre Absolut]

That's correct. The transmission mode overrides the engine/transmission setting in Drive Select. It takes precedence over whatever you have set in Drive Select.

Will test to see if there's a difference. Technically at that point i'm still in dynamic in ADS menu+ M mode transmission, therefore should have the aggressive map (there should be no relation to where i came from). Selecting D in the shifter has not changed the ADS setting, maybe just temporarily over ridden the transmission setting while in auto.

To me, the best way to use this transmission is aggressive map while shifting manually and switching over to auto-D to let the gears downshift to a stop or coast. Switching to S before going back to manual would be an extra unnecessary step.

Not sure the last part of this is correct. My car is always in dynamic mode, and will shift into 7th. Blip it into sport mode and it's more aggressive and tops out in 6th. So I can be in dynamic mode without being in sport mode. Pretty sure the D everyone is referring to stands for "drive", not dynamic.

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Technically if you are in dynamic and it shifts into 7, its because you've manually switched the S setting on the transmission to D, and therefore over ridden the transmission ADS setting,

[pdqgp]

Drive your car and have it in Dynamic/S mode. Then turn it off. Then start it up. On the dash, does it indicate "D" or "S". On my car, it would be "D" until I either pull the lever or push the ADS button. Sure, once the car is on and you push the ADS to Dynamic you don't need to pull back on the lever.

Gotcha. I know that answer. It starts in D not S. That's because the ADS starts in Auto.

I'm either in Dynamic or Individual Mode. I don't drive in Comfort or Auto Mode at all.

[superswiss]

Pretty sure this is also wrong. But I'm giving up on this thread now.

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That's probably a good thing. I'm done, too. I've tried to explain it several different ways, but it doesn't seem to sink in. I know it can be confusing, but once you wrap your head around the fact that D = comfort/auto and S = dynamic it starts to make sense. This all just affects the engine/transmission setting. Everything else is unaffected by this. One more tidbit that supports what I'm saying is that you can use launch control in comfort mode. All you need to do is put the transmission into S first. Once it's in S you can put it in manual. That's probably the best prove that S = dynamic and it matters whether you are in D or S before going into manual mode. You can try this yourself if you don't believe me.

EDIT: Btw all I've been saying only applies to the B8.5. The B8 is different in several areas.