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    Am I missing something?
    Sometimes it seems to work fine, but yesterday I changed my oil and since I don't have a dipstick yet I need to double check the MMI.
    If the ignition was off, the MMI told me that I needed to turn it on to check the oil level.
    If the car was on, the MMI told me I needed to wait around 2 minutes and the ignition needed to be off. WTF?
    I drove the car for nearly an hour and still had the same message. Previously, I always check the oil level while driving.
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    ^doing the hard reset on the MMI will not do anything for you in this case.


    I just posted this in the S4 section a few days ago...

    The MMI checks the top liter of oil.

    The vehicle needs to be at operating temperature and parked on a level surface, shut it off for 2 minutes. Read oil level on MMI.

    After an oil change you need to drive a minimum of 500kms for the system to reset.

    You checking the oil while driving does not work and will not give you any accurate info.

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    ^ Confused.
    With no dipstick, you are supposed to use the MMI, are you not?
    If so, how can you need to drive 500kms before checking the level? And how does it know I changed the oil?
    When the car is off, the oil level selection is grayed out and if I try to select it, it says the ignition must be on to configure this system.

    I know the MMI checks just the top liter, but it has always worked before while driving.
    I check it every so often to make sure I don't need to top off and always do it while driving or stopped at a light.
    Have looked at it parked and it's the same reading.
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    No need for panic,after oilchange it can take even few days,system knows if oil is changed as you reset interval etc,sensor will calibrate the figures with new data. I had no oilreading 1,5days after changeout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennisA4 View Post
    ^ Confused.
    With no dipstick, you are supposed to use the MMI, are you not?
    If so, how can you need to drive 500kms before checking the level? And how does it know I changed the oil?
    When the car is off, the oil level selection is grayed out and if I try to select it, it says the ignition must be on to configure this system.

    I know the MMI checks just the top liter, but it has always worked before while driving.
    I check it every so often to make sure I don't need to top off and always do it while driving or stopped at a light.
    Have looked at it parked and it's the same reading.
    I'm not sure what's confusing...it is what it is. I guess the best bet would be to buy a dipstick if you don't like how Audi engineered it?

    I know on my S4 that when I go through the proper procedure of warming the oil, shutting it down and then checking I get a very similar reading to my dipstick. If I push the button when driving it seems to always be full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theedge111 View Post
    I know on my S4 that when I go through the proper procedure of warming the oil, shutting it down and then checking I get a very similar reading to my dipstick. If I push the button when driving it seems to always be full.
    I've had no problems with the readings while driving. It simply needs time to determine the oil level after it changes, so for getting readings during or immediately after an oil change, a dipstick cures that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dscline View Post
    I've had no problems with the readings while driving. It simply needs time to determine the oil level after it changes, so for getting readings during or immediately after an oil change, a dipstick cures that.
    Maybe the system is designed differently for the A4/S4's I know that for the S4 it's not designed to give an accurate reading while moving. It's got to be warm, shut down for 2 mins and on a level surface.

    Sounds like it is the same for both models after an oil change, I know mine can take up to 5 days depending on how much I drive to work again.

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    When I changed my oil last it took more than a day before the level registered.
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    This is not the first time i changed the oil.
    Previously, I poured in the new oil, got in the car and use the MMI to see if it was filled enough.
    This time, no go.

    And this is an in-between 10k change. Doing the 5k's myself. So I'm not "resetting" anything, which is why I asked how it would know.
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    I believe the opening/closing of the hood is also involved in when it when it resets. I think I've read in the past of people having the hood sensor go bad and causing issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dscline View Post
    I believe the opening/closing of the hood is also involved in when it when it resets. I think I've read in the past of people having the hood sensor go bad and causing issues.
    ^ This. After the hood is open it resets the oil readout and it takes a few days (usually 2-3 days of normal driving in my case) before it'll display again.


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    Yup, popping the hood resets your MMI oil readout. However w/ my non-nav '09, sometimes I'm able to get the oil level readout to display in the DIS w/ the hood open if I turn off the ignition, turn it back on, and play around w/ the wiper stalk before the DIS displays the door open alert. Even tho I have the Assenmacher adjustable dipstick that Audi techs use, I use this method as a secondary check so I don't have to wait until my MMI decides to show.

    I'd love to know the exact inputs required on the wiper stalk to get the DIS to display the oil readout but unfortunately after 6 yrs of changing my own oil, it still seems random lol. Also I seem to remember that this may not work on '10s and newer (ie the models w/ the DIS that can display oil temp). Doesn't hurt to try and experiment.
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    I'd love to know the exact inputs required on the wiper stalk to get the DIS to display the oil readout but unfortunately after 6 yrs of changing my own oil, it still seems random lol. Also I seem to remember that this may not work on '10s and newer (ie the models w/ the DIS that can display oil temp). Doesn't hurt to try and experiment.[/QUOTE]

    You need gateway and DIS soft update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnark100 View Post
    You need gateway and DIS soft update.
    Please elaborate. By gateway I assume you mean CAN gateway? I can already get the DIS readout to show w/out any VAG-COM mod, I just don't know how to do it consistently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsDubC View Post
    Please elaborate. By gateway I assume you mean CAN gateway? I can already get the DIS readout to show w/out any VAG-COM mod, I just don't know how to do it consistently.
    Its so to say efficiency program,which gives you oil temp and other figures on Dis, im not sure,maybe to get oiltemp all you need is dis soft update,if im right 252 or 253 and higher,audi can help with that,if you like have more toys on dis,you need can gateway update aswell 117 or higher,audi cant help with that as its not there own,kufatec should provide this. Ive just done this few months ago,not much use☺

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    ^Interesting; thanks for the info. I believe the efficiency program can be enabled on MMI low in '09s, but not sure if that will show oil readout. I'll look into it. If possible, it'd definitely be much better than playing the guessing game w/ the wiper stalk lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsDubC View Post
    ^Interesting; thanks for the info. I believe the efficiency program can be enabled on MMI low in '09s, but not sure if that will show oil readout. I'll look into it. If possible, it'd definitely be much better than playing the guessing game w/ the wiper stalk lol
    Not sure about red dis update,but ive have seen picture of red screen with oil temp somewhere.
    Dis update should be something like SVM-CODE:B817A003(ask audi).

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