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    Podi stepper boost gauge wiring help.

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    Need some help with my podi boost gauge install. The wire colors I have are different than the wiring guide that dame with the gauge. Ive contacted podi and they are not familiar enough with the b5 to offer specific instruction. Thanks in advance for any help.
    these are the wires I have coming from the controller box:


    this is where I have the ground:


    As far as the constant and switched power I had it wired as I thought I should but the gauge displayed the common delayed startup problem so I'm asking for assistance from those who have correctly wired podi stepper gauges:


    Are two of these posts the best place to get constant and switched power or should I use a fuse tap or something different all together?


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    This is a little guide I used to help me clarify when I did mine. Works beautifully. Start at post # 12 for specific instructions but doesn't hurt to read the whole thing.

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ic-boost-gauge
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    OK so to be sure, as the wire colors for my podi seem to be different than others, the switched (my blue wire) goes to 75x, constant (my yellow wire) goes to any 30 post and then the orange wire I have left goes to nothing.


    ???

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    I used post #1 for all my wiring.
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    I'd suggest moving your ground to where the brown wire runs to below #1. Just makes a little more sense. (FYI, I had my ground where you had yours, but moved it to the in car ground post there.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austonwerner4 View Post
    I used post #1 for all my wiring.
    Both constant and switched to post #1?

    Quote Originally Posted by Timtheguru View Post
    I'd suggest moving your ground to where the brown wire runs to below #1. Just makes a little more sense. (FYI, I had my ground where you had yours, but moved it to the in car ground post there.)
    Will do also, good looking out.

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    Bump...

    I'm dealing with the same thing. The wires on the new style controller do not match anything on their web site and I did not get a pin out or schematic in the box.

    Blue = ?
    Yellow = ?
    Black = Ground ?
    Orange = ?

    I know I need constant power, switched power and a ground. What is the 4th wire for and what do the colors mean?

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    I never really figured it out either, I currently have the both the power and switched (blue and Yellow) wire on post #1 in my picture. Black is on the ground post and Orange is unused. I don't have the delayed startup but the needle will remain at the vac-level the motor is at when shut down. It won't return to zero as there is no power for it to run its shutdown sequence.

    Please chime in if you get it sorted out.

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    I have mine with the blue wire on the switched (#1 in your pic), the yellow on the constant (#2 in your pic), black to the screw above the fuse and orange taped up. I get the 0 reading with the key on and engine off but the gauge has a few second delay in startup everthing else works. I haven't heard back from Podi yet regarding the wire function. One thing I did notice was this sending unit shows me to be running a few In-Hg less but a few PSI more than before. I'm not sure what the MTM tune my car has set for boost levels to verify if the gauge is reading accurately. I might hook my Vag-Com up and compare the gauge to the MAP sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokin Joe View Post
    Bump...

    I'm dealing with the same thing. The wires on the new style controller do not match anything on their web site and I did not get a pin out or schematic in the box.

    Blue = ?
    Yellow = ?
    Black = Ground ?
    Orange = ?

    I know I need constant power, switched power and a ground. What is the 4th wire for and what do the colors mean?
    The new power box is a new item that we now include to help resolve the turn on delay issue that exists with the VW Mk5/M6 platform.

    The blue wire goes to switched +12v.

    The yellow wire goes to constant +12v.

    The black wire goes to ground.

    The orange wire is for the turbo timer function that is now part of the power box, unfortunately, this function can not be used with the factory VW/Audi alarm. The alarm can not be turned activated if the ECU knows the engine is running. Since the orange wire does provide a +12v output I suggest that you cut off the end and tape it up to prevent an accidental short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by achb5 View Post
    I never really figured it out either, I currently have the both the power and switched (blue and Yellow) wire on post #1 in my picture. Black is on the ground post and Orange is unused. I don't have the delayed startup but the needle will remain at the vac-level the motor is at when shut down. It won't return to zero as there is no power for it to run its shutdown sequence.

    Please chime in if you get it sorted out.
    If you connect switched (blue) and constant power (yellow) to a switched source, once the engine is turned off (no power to switched power location) the needle stops wherever it is as the gauge does not have any power to move the stepper motor and "park" the needle at -30. The needle does not go to zero like a mechanical gauge when the engine is turned off.

    If you connect the yellow to a constant power source then the gauge will do a shutdown sequence when the engine is turned off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokin Joe View Post
    I have mine with the blue wire on the switched (#1 in your pic), the yellow on the constant (#2 in your pic), black to the screw above the fuse and orange taped up. I get the 0 reading with the key on and engine off but the gauge has a few second delay in startup everthing else works. I haven't heard back from Podi yet regarding the wire function. One thing I did notice was this sending unit shows me to be running a few In-Hg less but a few PSI more than before. I'm not sure what the MTM tune my car has set for boost levels to verify if the gauge is reading accurately. I might hook my Vag-Com up and compare the gauge to the MAP sensor.
    If the gauge when powered up, engine is off, and reads zero then the readings shown are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    The new power box is a new item that we now include to help resolve the turn on delay issue that exists with the VW Mk5/M6 platform.

    The blue wire goes to switched +12v.

    The yellow wire goes to constant +12v.

    The black wire goes to ground.

    The orange wire is for the turbo timer function that is now part of the power box, unfortunately, this function can not be used with the factory VW/Audi alarm. The alarm can not be turned activated if the ECU knows the engine is running. Since the orange wire does provide a +12v output I suggest that you cut off the end and tape it up to prevent an accidental short.
    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    If the gauge when powered up, engine is off, and reads zero then the readings shown are correct.
    THANKS! I did wrap the orange wire with electrical tape and secured it to the rest of the wire bundle. VAG-Com did confirm the readings are correct. I did take several pictures of the installation. Would you like me to put a quick document together to make a quick installation guide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokin Joe View Post
    THANKS! I did wrap the orange wire with electrical tape and secured it to the rest of the wire bundle. VAG-Com did confirm the readings are correct. I did take several pictures of the installation. Would you like me to put a quick document together to make a quick installation guide?
    If you could put together a DIY that would be great, so I have something I can forward customers to for B5 installation tips.

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    So is the delayed start-up a thing? More importantly, a fixable thing?

    If I just key my ignition on, the gauge does its sweep almost immediately. But if I skip keying it on first and just start it, there is a few seconds of lag before the gauge comes to life. I figured this was just how it was and never bothered to look into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalieman24 View Post
    So is the delayed start-up a thing? More importantly, a fixable thing?

    If I just key my ignition on, the gauge does its sweep almost immediately. But if I skip keying it on first and just start it, there is a few seconds of lag before the gauge comes to life. I figured this was just how it was and never bothered to look into it.
    The turn on delay is a known issue with the VW Mk5/6 platform.

    Only recently have we been receiving calls from a few B5 owners describing a turn on delay and we are unsure as to what is causing it, since power tap locations shown in DIY have been pretty much the same for years.

    If you can post up a video of the "lag" you are seeing it would help determine if it a turn on delay or something else.

    Here are some videos of what the turn on delay looks like: http://podi.ca/turnondelay.aspx

    The boost gauge when activated does not startup right away because the initial power suppled on the switched +12v wire was interrupted, so the gauge detects this as the car being turned off so it begins its shutdown sequence (needle sweeps to -30 and the needle is already there, backlight turns off, needle lighting turns off, needle flashes once to say "bye"), once this is completed the gauge detects the restored power on the switched +12v wire and starts up again, this time it completes the startup routine and displays a reading.
    Last edited by [email protected]; 05-12-2015 at 01:11 PM.

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    Winston, I just emailed you a Word document I put together as a how to for connecting the new control box.

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    Yeah. Annoying. I am trying to do my gauge now. Instructions for wire color don't match. I don't have a blue wire anywhere. I don't have a box thing like referenced here. No wire pin out or schematic. Nothing but a "quick start guide" that doesn't match what I have. And worst of all is every post I read is somewhat different. No consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4iowa View Post
    Yeah. Annoying. I am trying to do my gauge now. Instructions for wire color don't match. I don't have a blue wire anywhere. I don't have a box thing like referenced here. No wire pin out or schematic. Nothing but a "quick start guide" that doesn't match what I have. And worst of all is every post I read is somewhat different. No consistency.
    Wiring up the gauge setup before the introduction of the power box described above has been always the same, how you connect it to your car to power it up can be done many different ways.

    The quick start guide version for use without the power box is here: http://www.podi.ca/Pdf/PODI.QUICKSTART.STEPPER.pdf

    If you can PM me your order information I would like to confirm what you ordered is what you received.
    Last edited by [email protected]; 07-01-2015 at 07:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Wiring up the gauge setup before the introduction of the power box described above has been always the same, how you connect it to your car to power it up can be done many different ways.

    The quick start guide version for use without the power box is here: http://www.podi.ca/Pdf/PODI.QUICKSTART.STEPPER.pdf

    If you can PM me your order information I would like to confirm what you ordered is what you received.
    That quick start guide looks like what I should have got. Instead I got something else that has no info on the sender and references the orange wire as turbo timer. Among other things that don't match up.

    I'll pm you my order but that guide link to the correct guide looks to clear it up.

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