Any EPL Stage 2 1/4 mile times yet?

[blackbenzz]

Just wondering if there are any independent 1/4 mile times yet with EPL stage 2. It's alot cheaper than the others. A pulley is just a pulley so if it's the same diameter as others it will make the same boost and EPL supposed to be a good Porsche tuner. Wonder what it runs.

[AudBoost]

I believe boseephuss has their Stage 2 tune but has to install it. Interested in the results as well.

[tgsweat]

Saxon has some.


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[boseephuss]

I should be getting my parts in the mail this week, and looking to install the first week of March. I know Saxon had the tune, but not sure if he ever did any 1/4 runs with the EPL flash. I know he has posted his APR 104 times, but don't recall EPL specific runs other than dyno.

[blackbenzz]

Saxon showed dyno runs on EPL and APR to be very similar for 93 but didn't compare race tunes nor did I see any 1/4 numbers. I'm tempted to order it. Do some runs stock, swap the pulley, and upload tune at track and do more runs. Then do 104 octane runs. I rent the track so I would have time to do it. But I want to see some numbers before I put in that much effort.

[QuattroLife]

[shadycrew31]

I heard they were running 10.5 running nitrometh and a lightweight battery.

[d.p]

He ran a 12.35@112 1.79 60' on pump with EPL tune.

[Santorin Dream]

This feels like deja vus all over again. When EPL and I pioneered the K16/16g package for the Porsche 996 Turbo market it was the same story.

First we posted our dyno results (both base tune and turbo upgrade) and everyone said there was no way the tune could safely make as much or more power than all of the existing tuners in that market (Protosport, UMW, Softronic, GIAC, APR) and certainly not at the price point EPL was selling it at. Some even baselessly accused Tony of stealing other people's tuning IP:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...rmed-long.html
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ning-long.html

Then we posted 1/4 mile times and despite the strong trap speeds, everyone took pot shots at my crappy driving:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ack-996tt.html

Then finally, when we posted a driftbox 60-130 time that blew all others out of the water, people finally came around.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...it-7-flat.html

Now, years later, EPL is the gold standard tune for that market and is single handedly responsible for cutting the price for tuning in half in that market (which is why, I assume, the other tuners had their minions come out in force to troll every thread). It's the natural evolution of things. Vehement opposition followed by everyone accepting as fact... just give it a few months.

[blackbenzz]

He ran a 12.35@112 1.79 60' on pump with EPL tune.

Thanks. I heard this was run on pump on stage 2 as well

[email protected] with a 2800ft DA

Comparable to APR no? Does EPL have a race gas file?

Tune only EPL ran 12.5 @ 110 (best of 11 for the day)

[Dudemans4]

I just finished my flash today the car feels very strong tony helped me out a lot I had some computer issues before I could flash but we fixed the problem. He stayed over on a Friday till about 6pm to square me away. I am extremelymely happy with the product and look forward to get getting you guys some times.

[Jabroni1485]

http://www.malonetuning.com/30tfsi

[boseephuss]

I just finished my flash today the car feels very strong tony helped me out a lot I had some computer issues before I could flash but we fixed the problem. He stayed over on a Friday till about 6pm to square me away. I am extremelymely happy with the product and look forward to get getting you guys some times.

Right on, great to hear!

[blackbenzz]

I just finished my flash today the car feels very strong tony helped me out a lot I had some computer issues before I could flash but we fixed the problem. He stayed over on a Friday till about 6pm to square me away. I am extremelymely happy with the product and look forward to get getting you guys some times.

Just tune. Or tune/pulley?

http://www.malonetuning.com/30tfsi

1/4 times?

[d.p]

Thanks. I heard this was run on pump on stage 2 as well

[email protected] with a 2800ft DA

Comparable to APR no? Does EPL have a race gas file?

Tune only EPL ran 12.5 @ 110 (best of 11 for the day)

Honestly dude there is only so much anyone can do with a smaller pulley and ECU tune so I would expect all tunes to be relatively close in terms of performance.

[Dudemans4]

Just tune. Or tune/pulley?

1/4 times?

Tune and pulley

[saxon]

Epl tune is capable of low 12's but I found it to not be as consistent as apr. If he fixed the bugs in my tune and had a dsg flash ( he mentions on Facebook that he does ) I could see it comparing with apr And giac

Tony unfortunately could never get my car to not bleed boost though

[k9lovr]

I just finished my flash today the car feels very strong tony helped me out a lot I had some computer issues before I could flash but we fixed the problem. He stayed over on a Friday till about 6pm to square me away. I am extremelymely happy with the product and look forward to get getting you guys some times.

Where in Va are you?

[Dudemans4]

Where in Va are you?

Roanoke I used to live in Fredericksburg I was stationed at quantico for 4 years

[AZT]

Periods are your friend Dudeman.

[Boris]

This feels like deja vus all over again. When EPL and I pioneered the K16/16g package for the Porsche 996 Turbo market it was the same story.

First we posted our dyno results (both base tune and turbo upgrade) and everyone said there was no way the tune could safely make as much or more power than all of the existing tuners in that market (Protosport, UMW, Softronic, GIAC, APR) and certainly not at the price point EPL was selling it at. Some even baselessly accused Tony of stealing other people's tuning IP:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...rmed-long.html
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ning-long.html

Then we posted 1/4 mile times and despite the strong trap speeds, everyone took pot shots at my crappy driving:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ack-996tt.html

Then finally, when we posted a driftbox 60-130 time that blew all others out of the water, people finally came around.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...it-7-flat.html

Now, years later, EPL is the gold standard tune for that market and is single handedly responsible for cutting the price for tuning in half in that market (which is why, I assume, the other tuners had their minions come out in force to troll every thread). It's the natural evolution of things. Vehement opposition followed by everyone accepting as fact... just give it a few months.

Im glad EPL exists, in my experience they come in once the market is more mature and spice it up. Accusations of 'stealing' tunes always float around between companies, but in reality, after the first firm creates an aftermarket flash, why wouldn't any subsequent developer at least start with those maps and go from there. Shit, you can't rediscover the wheel, and often the gains still left on the table are pretty minor or clever tweaks. EPL is always a pleasant evolution to the existing tuning market.

you also see the proper use of a trap speed in the above guys quote, to whatever heckler that was that attacked me for only caring about 1/4 miles just bc i referenced a trap. this place is a joke.

Do they have a race file?

[derek.kritz]

Yes they do. 100 and 104


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[Jabroni1485]

Just tune. Or tune/pulley?

1/4 times?

havent had time to make it to track, the local track turned into 1/8th mile after a wreck

[blackbenzz]

Yes they do. 100 and 104


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Apparently not for B8.5 yet

[derek.kritz]

Apparently not for B8.5 yet

Correct. Only b8. Would think that the b8.5 will be done in a month or so. Along with the dsg tune. EPLabs is devoting this whole first quarter of the year to the S4 B8/8.5 platform.


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[mikenice]

I've had my epl flash flash for about 25k miles and have had no issues. I did their pulley upgrade about 10k miles ago and it's been awesome. I've never been to a track yet but I did have my car dyno ed a few weeks ago and I was impressed with the #'s. I could post the dyno sheet although I don't have baseline #s

[derek.kritz]

I've had my epl flash flash for about 25k miles and have had no issues. I did their pulley upgrade about 10k miles ago and it's been awesome. I've never been to a track yet but I did have my car dyno ed a few weeks ago and I was impressed with the #'s. I could post the dyno sheet although I don't have baseline #s

Post them up brother!!!


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[boseephuss]

I have the car in the shop for installation now. I was able to get in on the Alpha cooling system group buy, and waited so that I could kill two birds with one stone. I am pretty sure I won't get it in time for the event this weekend (which looks like it'll likely get rained out anyway) but hope to get some details and times, though I doubt it'll be soon. I will at the minimum post my impressions.

[derek.kritz]

I have the car in the shop for installation now. I was able to get in on the Alpha cooling system group buy, and waited so that I could kill two birds with one stone. I am pretty sure I won't get it in time for the event this weekend (which looks like it'll likely get rained out anyway) but hope to get some details and times, though I doubt it'll be soon. I will at the minimum post my impressions.

In for impressions!!! I'm loving mine!!! But my buddy just had his flashed. No increase in speed, boost, nothing. Not looking to be the tune though. Think he is having a boost leak, supercharger issue. Sucks. Here is a thread I started all about it:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=642369


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[Dudemans4]

Posted some 1/8th mile times in a new thread