Thinking about MK6 Golf R...

[papadelogan]

I love my A4... but I'd love it more (I think) if it were a little hatchback that could carry more... so I've been looking around and it doesn't seem like you can find what I'm really after:

Hatchback
Turbo motor
Manual trans (6 speed preferred, 5 will do) - AUTOMATIC IS NOT AN OPTION
AWD
nice interior
price around $30k or less (less is better )

I'm not overly concerned about speed/mega performance, but it must be able to cruise comfortably and be reasonably quiet @ 100mph or so, so comments like "you can upgrade to a Stage 3+, FMIC, blah blah blah...." won't matter to me. I've been on APR Stage 1 for 4 years and am fine with the performance & mileage I get.

If the A3 can be had with the 2.0T, 6sp MT & quattro, then great!!! But I don't think it ever was.

I've looked at WRXs, but they seem to be super cheap shitboxes any more... FAST, but cheap.

So that has led me to the Golf R... even though it's FWD biased, has no Auto Headlamps or rain sensor... I drove one and it was nice. Like the A4, but with more supportive seats, but didn't feel as quick as my A4.

I like the creature comforts of my Audi and am past the point of wanting a hooligan-mobile... I want something functional, but refined... and the U.S. market SUCKS for that niche. I'm reaching out to the Audi community because you'll know best who the competitors are and how they stack up. I'm not in a rush at all, just seeing what is out there. Thanks all!!!

[jimrobbington]

I think you better start looking at station wagons....

[papadelogan]

I think you better start looking at station wagons....

I've considered the A4 avant but it just doesn't look that appealing to me.... I do plan to check more out in person though. I think the A3 is more the size I'm looking for, but may not be available in the configuration I desire, but we'll see. I am still going to look at & drive some WRXs... I can put in better seats, amenities, etc.... but the guy I rent a room to has a 2015 WRX and the clutch SUCKS.

[seco007]

I've considered the A4 avant but it just doesn't look that appealing to me.... I do plan to check more out in person though. I think the A3 is more the size I'm looking for, but may not be available in the configuration I desire, but we'll see. I am still going to look at & drive some WRXs... I can put in better seats, amenities, etc.... but the guy I rent a room to has a 2015 WRX and the clutch SUCKS.

I am just curious as to why the 201 WRX clutch sucks...I was thinking of going this route.......I am happy with my '07 A4 6MT APR stage 2, but eventually I would want something more refined....and maybe faster but an S4 is more than what I would like to spend....also thought about going the mitsu evo path...

[mec]

I am just curious as to why the 201 WRX clutch sucks...I was thinking of going this route.......I am happy with my '07 A4 6MT APR stage 2, but eventually I would want something more refined....and maybe faster but an S4 is more than what I would like to spend....also thought about going the mitsu evo path...

Because a 201 WRX is an old car made 1814 years ago! clutches weren't great back then.

Brendan, my vote is for a TTRS :) totally impractical but super fast. Plus 5 cylinder.
Bitches love an odd number of cylinders.

[Hypn0t1q79]

I went from a B7 A4 to a Mk6 Golf R (Totalled the A4) and I can say the Golf R is a lot more fun in my opinion. Im not sure how modded your A4 is if at all but I feel my R is faster then my A4 but they were both stockish (A4 may have been tuned before I purchased it)

As far the concerns you have the R has a little less space but not by much. The auto headlamps can be retrofit for about $100 but turning the dial never bothered me. The suspension is quite stiff compared to my old A4 with the sport suspension and as far as the "FWD" bias its really not as bad as people make it out to be. But the worst part would be the gearing. In 6th doing 75-80MPH on the highway its turning 3000-3300RPM. I honestly do not think you will be happy with a Golf R because it is more of a hoon machine then the A4. I would suggest an S4 avant but you have already said you really do not prefer the wagons. But it is the best Impractical/Practical compromise I could find.

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[aluthman]

Buy a used CTS-V wagon...

[ktish]

Buy a used CTS-V wagon...

Dat V8... but no AWD :/

You could track down a Porsche Cayenne with a manual...

[SykoraA4]

I'd seriously recommend atleast trying to find and test driving an avant before jumping to the Golf R. My wife has a Tiguan with the same 4motion awd, and hands down Quattro trumps it in the snow. In fact, even with decent tires, Id say quattro still out performs 4motion when it comes to driving character.

Mine and hers,


out and about yesterday


and tackling nearly a foot of snow.


Also, since you're willing to wait, the Focus RS is making it's way here sometime in 2016. It's a pretty solid contender based on your requirements. but it has an ugly face!

[drumnjuny]

everything will said... his answer was perfect.

[Operator]

Manual trans (6 speed preferred, 5 will do) - AUTOMATIC IS NOT AN OPTION

That knocks out ALOT of options.....

[drumnjuny]

That knocks out ALOT of options.....

i know right, thank god...

haha sorry dave

[SykoraA4]

well one thing I didn't touch on was DSG. I love (LOVE) my manual, but I'm also a huge fan of the dsg transmission, despite the lack of clutch pedal. there's something extremely satisfying about that dsg "fart" between upshifts and down shifting with the paddles. It truly operates like an automated manual, because it is. the wife's eos was dsg and i loved driving it, and i wish the tig had one too.

[vce1232000]

I am looking into the Golf R myself. But so used to this DAMN quattro system. Dont know how I would adjust to the halidex differential vs the quattro we have. Becuase this rox in the rain and snow

[aluthman]

I'm keeping my B7 until the wheels fall off. I may be adding a TDI Q7 to the stable at some point though.

[mpv314]

Avant Audi > Golf R

[funky_snowman]

Mk7 golf r comes with a manual in 2016

[papadelogan]

That knocks out ALOT of options.....

I know, but I also know what I like, and I like rowing gears. My current truck is an automatic but my first was an F350 CrewCab Dually that beast was stick shift. Manual shifter is non-negotiable for me.

Avant Audi > Golf R

Might very well be true, and I do love the quattro in the snow. Gonna check out Avants... an 03 2.7T 6MT Allroad might be my ideal ride....

Mk7 golf r comes with a manual in 2016

yep, knew that, but definitely not dropping nearly $40k

Brendan, my vote is for a TTRS :) totally impractical but super fast. Plus 5 cylinder.
Bitches love an odd number of cylinders.

Hmmmm... didn't know that about odd numbers of cylinders. Fortunately I have a super hot GF that doesn't worry about cylinder count. TT is not an option. Must have 4 doors. Yeah, I'm picky.

[mec]

I know, but I also know what I like, and I like rowing gears. My current truck is an automatic but my first was an F350 CrewCab Dually that beast was stick shift. Manual shifter is non-negotiable for me.



Might very well be true, and I do love the quattro in the snow. Gonna check out Avants... an 03 2.7T 6MT Allroad might be my ideal ride....



yep, knew that, but definitely not dropping nearly $40k




Hmmmm... didn't know that about odd numbers of cylinders. Fortunately I have a super hot GF that doesn't worry about cylinder count. TT is not an option. Must have 4 doors. Yeah, I'm picky.

Rs3! Be hipster like and be the first one to import it! Also the new s3's are so sick. Unfortunately not manual


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[papadelogan]

Rs3! Be hipster like and be the first one to import it! Also the new s3's are so sick. Unfortunately not manual

Hipsters should get the Fargo treatment (think wood chipper) for being fruity little bitches.

S3 looks nice but no manual = HUGE FAIL. More than I'm willing to spend as well right now. I drove a 2015 A3... weak.

[mec]

Hipsters should get the Fargo treatment (think wood chipper) for being fruity little bitches.

S3 looks nice but no manual = HUGE FAIL. More than I'm willing to spend as well right now. I drove a 2015 A3... weak.

My original vote for rs6 is still in!


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[Firefox250]

Hmmmm... didn't know that about odd numbers of cylinders. Fortunately I have a super hot GF that doesn't worry about cylinder count. TT is not an option. Must have 4 doors. Yeah, I'm picky.

Rule #22, Sir

But to continue with your thread I agree the Mk6 Golf R would be decent replacement. Just make it a stage 2+ car and you should be happy

[funky_snowman]

yep, knew that, but definitely not dropping nearly $40k.

2016 Golf R with 6mt is on track to be 35,1xx. It's 1100 cheaper than the dsg apparently.

Load a gti up with the features that the golf r comes with standard. You'll end up paying 30k+ optioning it out. 5k more for what has become a pretty nice awd system, and a lot more power, among other things. Doesn't sound so terrible to me given the (new car) options.

[vtwinjunkie]

I am looking into the Allroad as my next car....Keeping my B7 sline but looking ahead a few years down the road at my next move.

[papadelogan]

New AllRoads are only automatic. Maybe I will convert and old '03 AllRoad over to stick. Nothing on the market right now excites me that much..

[VroomTT]

I don't think the mk6 Golf R came in manual in the USA at all... Unless you are in Europe, it never met your requirements to begin with

[papadelogan]

I drove a 6MT Golf R on Saturday. Nice but felt bland...

[Tyler@IE]

I don't think the mk6 Golf R came in manual in the USA at all... Unless you are in Europe, it never met your requirements to begin with

The MK6 Golf R only came in a 6 speed manual in the US.

The MK5 R32 came only in DSG.

For what it is worth, I have spent a lot of time in the MK6 Golf R in the last year. I'm selling all 3 of my personal Audis and getting into a MK6 R, it is a spectacular car... and feel much lighter than a B5/B6/B7/B8/etc... chassis and it is very easy to make make power with. I think you would be pleased OP.

[papadelogan]

The MK6 Golf R only came in a 5 speed manual in the US.

Maybe I drove an imported Euro-spec Golf R, but it was most definitely a 6-speed trans.

[aluthman]

Because a 201 WRX is an old car made 1814 years ago! clutches weren't great back then.

Brendan, my vote is for a TTRS :) totally impractical but super fast. Plus 5 cylinder.
Bitches love an odd number of cylinders.

That means 3 cyl. will get me bitches too right?

[Tyler@IE]

Maybe I drove an imported Euro-spec Golf R, but it was most definitely a 6-speed trans.

6 speed is what I meant, typo. No DSG MK6 Golf R in the US anyhow.

[drumnjuny]

if i got a golf R i would have to upgrade to the navi unit they put in the european model and the seats from the euro model too. there's a guy local to me that has done that (and apr stage 3 and a ton of other shit i'm sure lol)

[papadelogan]

No OEM headunit for me. I have a Pioneer AppRadio that is integrated with my phone so I have touch control of my phone through the stereo. Google Maps, Netflix... you name it. If it's on my phone, I get it on my stereo screen.

[drumnjuny]

No OEM headunit for me. I have a Pioneer AppRadio that is integrated with my phone so I have touch control of my phone through the stereo. Google Maps, Netflix... you name it. If it's on my phone, I get it on my stereo screen.

linky link? i'm never a fan of the way aftermarket head units look, idk why there isn't one with an incredibly thin, non-glossy bezel (seriously nobody's interior is gloss black, it never matches any car lol), no neon backlit buttons, just all touch screen with a tiny power button with a tiny red led

[papadelogan]

Pioneer SPH-DA210 is what I have. Will snap some pics later today for ya.

[VroomTT]

The MK6 Golf R only came in a 6 speed manual in the US.

The MK5 R32 came only in DSG.

For what it is worth, I have spent a lot of time in the MK6 Golf R in the last year. I'm selling all 3 of my personal Audis and getting into a MK6 R, it is a spectacular car... and feel much lighter than a B5/B6/B7/B8/etc... chassis and it is very easy to make make power with. I think you would be pleased OP.

I stand corrected. Was def thinking r32, my bad