Results from Track Night with fellow Audi's

**triz08** · 02-21-2015 11:34 AM

I went out the Palm Beach International Raceway last night with my buddy RonBars on the C7 S6 forums. I randomly met up with another S4 there that has GIAC Stage 2+ with the DSG software. The weather was perfect for sunny south Florida in the low 50's and I ended up getting the best times I have ran in this car before. See the videos and time slips below.

And my best run of the night....

**MrFunk** · 02-21-2015 11:40 AM

Nice hit man! Enjoyed the vids...!

**triz08** · 02-21-2015 11:45 AM

And one from my buddy's C7 S6 APR stage 1 vs me in the left lane. I had no chance going against his 11.4 second car!

**d.p** · 02-21-2015 12:25 PM

Nice times man. Knocking on 11s on pump not bad at all!

60' could be better though.

**AZT** · 02-21-2015 12:46 PM

Nice - looks like APR's 2015 tune is running well to trap 113.7 mph on pump gas and no DSG program.

**Blurspeed** · 02-21-2015 01:25 PM

Nice. Congrats!!!

**mrmomo313** · 02-21-2015 01:32 PM

I wonder if that GIAC stg 2 s4 was the dude who got banned. Nice results from apr on a 2015 s4!

**derek.kritz** · 02-21-2015 01:49 PM

Wow!!! Nice run. Guess that kinda squashes the "issue" with apr and the b8.5 tune...

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**Shamu** · 02-21-2015 02:02 PM

^ was thinking that exactly especially after all the posts/threads about the '14+ s4 ECU tuning issues that apr's had! Kinda shocked actually...!

**ptper** · 02-21-2015 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by mrmomo313

I wonder if that GIAC stg 2 s4 was the dude who got banned. Nice results from apr on a 2015 s4!

Come to think of it, I think he did have an Ibis, lol.

**saxon** · 02-21-2015 02:35 PM

what did the giac car run?

With a dsg tune you have 115+mph traps and high Elevens easy

**Shamu** · 02-21-2015 03:09 PM

^ 12.54 per the OP time slip...

**saxon** · 02-21-2015 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Shamu

^ 12.54 per the OP time slip...

i didnt see the small red writing on the time slip, thanks!

**triz08** · 02-21-2015 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by mrmomo313

I wonder if that GIAC stg 2 s4 was the dude who got banned. Nice results from apr on a 2015 s4!

Haha! I met him when I went the weekend before and he told me about how he got banned from the forums. Russian guy with the white Ibis S4. He ran a 11.98 last weekend with GIAC Stage2+ and DSG software and E85 gas mix. He said that was his best time ever in that car.

**triz08** · 02-21-2015 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by derek.kritz

Wow!!! Nice run. Guess that kinda squashes the "issue" with apr and the b8.5 tune...

I was thinking the same thing but I did not want to bring it up and start some sort of war. Now only if APR would release that DSG software.....

**derek.kritz** · 02-21-2015 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by triz08

I was thinking the same thing but I did not want to bring it up and start some sort of war. Now only if APR would release that DSG software.....

Haha. No kidding. They always wanna bash apr. I am getting the EPLABS tune this Tuesday. Couldn't pass on the $850 stage 2 deal they had last week that included the pulley and belt. Bought the flash at home cable too. Would have prob gone APR iF not EPLABS. Excited on getting a dyno for comparison.

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**B8 S4** · 02-21-2015 04:19 PM

Use launch control?

**Usa** · 02-21-2015 04:24 PM

Cant wait for APR DSG software

**triz08** · 02-21-2015 04:46 PM

You are definitely saving a lot of money by going with eplabs. Id be interested to see that dyno as well. Its going to be a whole different beast after that tune!

And yes, launch control was used every run.

**GTItoS4** · 02-22-2015 06:50 PM

Interesting that there's a 3 mph difference between the best run and the earlier run, both with essentially the same 60' time. Was there a big drop in DA / temps that night?

**triz08** · 02-22-2015 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by GTItoS4

Interesting that there's a 3 mph difference between the best run and the earlier run, both with essentially the same 60' time. Was there a big drop in DA / temps that night?

The one thing that has been on my mind is the best run of the night was my 2nd run down the track and there was no wait in between runs. The run vs the S4 there was about 45 min worth of downtime where the car was off and the hood open. I am thinking the oil, transmission, and tires all like to be running at optimal temperatures. Here I was so worried about heat soak... I would like to do more testing like this but its hard as the track fills very quickly with the different classes of cars.

**Jones2012s4** · 02-22-2015 10:46 PM

It has been shown that the B8/8.5's love to hot-lap down the track. My best runs have often been the 6-7 run or even higher. "Heat soak" is some what of a myth. Great times!

**saxon** · 02-23-2015 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by Jones2012s4

It has been shown that the B8/8.5's love to hot-lap down the track. My best runs have often been the 6-7 run or even higher. "Heat soak" is some what of a myth. Great times!

its weird, because my car is the complete opposite, maybe its because i dont have any cooling mods

my best time was when the car had the most time inbetween to cool off

**d.p** · 02-23-2015 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by saxon

its weird, because my car is the complete opposite, maybe its because i dont have any cooling mods

my best time was when the car had the most time inbetween to cool off

I don't think it has anything to do with cooling mods.

I have no cooling mods and my fastest times were always after 3-4 runs deep except for when I ran the race tune. Since it was my first and only run it was the fastest (by default).

**drob23** · 02-23-2015 05:51 AM

Nice times, definitely the best I've seen for an APR stg 2 B8.5 on pump!

**Phil@USP** · 02-23-2015 06:13 AM

Nice times... a little more seat time and I think 11s are so close!

Glad you like the way the car came out.

Phil

**blackbenzz** · 02-23-2015 06:44 AM

Why was the 60 foot in the GIAC car so bad? If you take that into consideration you both would have had near identical ET's

**d.p** · 02-23-2015 06:48 AM

Cause the guy can't drive.

Come on man its not rocket science.

**saxon** · 02-23-2015 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by d.p

Cause the guy can't drive.

Come on man its not rocket science.

Dsg with the power stage 2 makes doesn't need any skill from the driver imo, hell my wife could drive my car into the 11's

**d.p** · 02-23-2015 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by saxon

Dsg with the power stage 2 makes doesn't need any skill from the driver imo, hell my wife could drive my car into the 11's

Alright take your wife to the track and see what kind of 60' she can cut.

Otherwise my point remains..anyone can fuck up a launch regardless if its DSG or 6MT.

**blackbenzz** · 02-23-2015 07:20 AM

Launch control is pretty hard to fuck up. Maybe he didn't use launch control?

**ronbars** · 02-23-2015 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by blackbenzz

Why was the 60 foot in the GIAC car so bad? If you take that into consideration you both would have had near identical ET's

The owner of that car said he was having some inconsistencies with the GIAC DSG tune, so perhaps the LC wasn't perfect. Additionally, the track workers were a little liberal with the water in the burnout box, so there was no way to completely avoid getting the tires wet.

**blackbenzz** · 02-23-2015 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by ronbars

The owner of that car said he was having some inconsistencies with the GIAC DSG tune, so perhaps the LC wasn't perfect. Additionally, the track workers were a little liberal with the water in the burnout box, so there was no way to completely avoid getting the tires wet.

Oh I see. Thanks

**drew4392** · 02-23-2015 08:33 AM

Wasn't it determined that LC doesn't help 1/4 time any better vs. mashing the gas?

**skiS4fun** · 02-23-2015 08:41 AM

Nice Vid!

**ptper** · 02-23-2015 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by d.p

Cause the guy can't drive.

Come on man its not rocket science.

haha, dude must be fumin since he's been banned and can't respond, lol.

**triz08** · 02-23-2015 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by ptper

haha, dude must be fumin since he's been banned and can't respond, lol.

This was actually a different White Ibis S4 but we met that guy the weekend before. Do you remember what his username was before he was banned?

**triz08** · 02-23-2015 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Phil@USP

Nice times... a little more seat time and I think 11s are so close!

Glad you like the way the car came out.

Phil

Thanks Phil! Trust me, I WILL get into those 11s! Even if I have to wait til next year for cool weather.

Thanks for tuning the car at USP Motorsports. I wouldn't be able to get these times if it wasnt for you guys! You guys are the best.

Thanks!