Fender Bender

[fast_furious]

Got into an accident in the snow, car slid and the right side hit the railing. As soon as it happened I could feel the steering wheel tighten up to where turning it required a lot of effort. Drove it the rest of the way home. Some error messages popped up, "steering wheel defective: don't drive" and "TPMS" error message popped up. Got the car to the dealership today and the insurance appraiser won't be out there till Monday, asked him to call me when he was looking at the car, and he refused.... apparently it ruins his "train of thought" like a "doctor with his patient" type of stuff, have you guys heard this before? What about the damage to the car, pretty bad? Should the engine be alright (will it drive like a lemon now)? ETA on the repairs?
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[b8audis4]

Well, at the least you need two new doors and fender, repairs will need to be made to the rear quarter panel. Plus painting the whole side. I wouldn't be surprised if pricing comes close to $5k. Car should be fine after but make sure that they check the underbody structural components as well. Wheels and tires also.

[chaos2984]

Nice you pancaked it very nice. Probably will be like 2weeks to fix.

[ModdedEuros]

Glad you are ok. Car doesn't look too bad. Some doors and paint. Def gonna be a few grand to fix but should be fine afterwards

[blackfunk]

I'm gonna say 12-15k to repair. Ask me how I know. You also have suspension/steering issues that I did not have. I also did not have quarter panel damage , mine rang in at 11k for repairs.

[jygesq]

what tires were on the car?

[MrFunk]

Well, at the least you need two new doors and fender, repairs will need to be made to the rear quarter panel. Plus painting the whole side. I wouldn't be surprised if pricing comes close to $5k. Car should be fine after but make sure that they check the underbody structural components as well. Wheels and tires also.

It's going to be FAR more than 5k with all those panels needing to be replaced. There's almost always more damage than what can be seen at first glance... plus suspension and steering issues...

Nice you pancaked it very nice. Probably will be like 2weeks to fix.

At least 1 month I'd say.

I'm gonna say 12-15k to repair. Ask me how I know. You also have suspension/steering issues that I did not have. I also did not have quarter panel damage , mine rang in at 11k for repairs.

Yup! I'd say you are right on the mark...

what tires were on the car?

LOL - first thing I looked at in the pics - looks like the OE all seasons...?

[Okan509]

Well, at the least you need two new doors and fender, repairs will need to be made to the rear quarter panel. Plus painting the whole side. I wouldn't be surprised if pricing comes close to $5k. Car should be fine after but make sure that they check the underbody structural components as well. Wheels and tires also.

gonna be way more than that, I'm afraid. My dinky little repair came out to be ~7,500.

[fast_furious]

If you see the car in person, its almost as if the body shifted to the left, you can tell the body isn't centered with the wheels. I'm worried theres a lot of structural damage inside...... Should I tell the dealership to appraise it before the insurance appraiser? I doubt they will put there honest time in it because they know I'm gonna have the insurance coming in too..

[fast_furious]

what tires were on the car?

OEM Continentals, the all weather ones

[Bizzles]

OEM Continentals, the allmost weather ones

Fixed. Good luck!

[Elderan]

Sucks to see this, I feel your pain right now with my accident as well.

[drob23]

Rear 1/4 panel is the worst place to have damage. Make sure you get a top notch shop to do this kind of work. A lot more work than just replacing parts/painting.

[SDV325]

frick, i just got a quote after my car suffered a hit and run by a coward.

slightly dented fender, repairs to the 3M (bumper, headlight, and fender), paint match the fender and door, and realign a headlight. $2700!

i could see this easily reaching $10K+

[sacandagaD]

If you see the car in person, its almost as if the body shifted to the left, you can tell the body isn't centered with the wheels. I'm worried theres a lot of structural damage inside...... Should I tell the dealership to appraise it before the insurance appraiser? I doubt they will put there honest time in it because they know I'm gonna have the insurance coming in too..

Ouch, sounds more like a frame bender than a fender bender. Can you get the car to an Audi-Certified body shop for an initial estimate? In any case, your adjustor is going to give you an estimate on what is apparent to his/her inspection, then once you take to get it repaired, if they find additional damage, they will write a supplemental estimate. Got to be way over 10k in damage if sub-frame and suspension is involved.

[b8audis4]

Rear 1/4 panel is the worst place to have damage. Make sure you get a top notch shop to do this kind of work. A lot more work than just replacing parts/painting.

Agree with that. You will literally never be able to fix that 100% properly.

[AWDLover]

Bummer! Hopefully no structural damage.

This ended up being $7,500 repaired at an AOA approved body shop (was a dealership with a body shop). My insurance wouldn't buy new doors though as my car was older than 3 years, so they sourced used doors. I also got $3,000 in diminished value, but not sure you could get that if you were "at fault".

[fast_furious]

lollll, just to let everyone know, this took 27K to fix.... 27K!!!!!!! Holy crap the insurance company was pissed

[TMurt]

lollll, just to let everyone know, this took 27K to fix.... 27K!!!!!!! Holy crap the insurance company was pissed

That's wild, I just spent less than that to buy my S4. What was the cause of the extra costs?

[Senseless]

Wow; that's crazy. Makes me wonder why my insurance premium is so reasonable.

[vwblackb5]

Back from the dead, but this just sealed the deal for me. Definitely going with Blizzak WS80's on the winter rotors instead of DWS06.

[fast_furious]

structural damage, suspension work.... I have the final papers with all the labor/parts, but a lot of extra costs went into the detailing, the trunk needed to be re-hauled since a gallon of milk in the trunk burst open and leaved an odd smell... just a nightmare. If you can avoid driving in the snow, always avoid it, even if you have an s4... i used to think this car was a tank, let me tell you its the opposite. And this was all at like 45mph

[fast_furious]

also took 2.5 months to finish all the work, and I still hear extra air escaping from the windows where the accident happened, gonna take it back to the dealership for them to fix.... but yeah, huge nightmare.

[E.Anderson]

structural damage, suspension work.... I have the final papers with all the labor/parts, but a lot of extra costs went into the detailing, the trunk needed to be re-hauled since a gallon of milk in the trunk burst open and leaved an odd smell... just a nightmare. If you can avoid driving in the snow, always avoid it, even if you have an s4... i used to think this car was a tank, let me tell you its the opposite. And this was all at like 45mph

You used to think this car was a tank? what were you expecting to happen when you lost control and hit a guard rail at 45? total the guard rail and buff out the audi? these cars can get up and go in the snow.... It's the turning and stopping that causes issues. Get a dedicated winter set, makes all the difference

[fast_furious]

You used to think this car was a tank? what were you expecting to happen when you lost control and hit a guard rail at 45? total the guard rail and buff out the audi? these cars can get up and go in the snow.... It's the turning and stopping that causes issues. Get a dedicated winter set, makes all the difference

Lol don't get butthurt.... obviously it is not a tank!
I'm wanting my forum members to learn from my mistakes and not drive in bad weather, nothing is important enough unless you have to get to the hospital!
I'm happy you think you're so wise with your "what do you expect attitude" but bro.... tragedy can strike at any moment and that "dedicated winter set" wont save you from mother nature...... so AVOID bad weather, even if you have a real tank. Stay at home with your family and continue to post haughty remarks because bro, would rather put up with this than have someone lose their life
Stay at home, don't risk your life and your car in the elements, and I pray you guys don't have to learn this by experience
Stay safe guys

[theedge111]

Lol don't get butthurt.... obviously it is not a tank!
I'm wanting my forum members to learn from my mistakes and not drive in bad weather, nothing is important enough unless you have to get to the hospital!
I'm happy you think you're so wise with your "what do you expect attitude" but bro.... tragedy can strike at any moment and that "dedicated winter set" wont save you from mother nature...... so AVOID bad weather, even if you have a real tank. Stay at home with your family and continue to post haughty remarks because bro, would rather put up with this than have someone lose their life
Stay at home, don't risk your life and your car in the elements, and I pray you guys don't have to learn this by experience
Stay safe guys

Lol it would be a very long winter if I stayed home everytime it snowed here.

30 years driving...last 15 with Quattro and snows...zero issues...

[deadpool7777]

BRO, have you ever been in or driven a real tank?

[JoshDub]

structural damage, suspension work.... I have the final papers with all the labor/parts, but a lot of extra costs went into the detailing, the trunk needed to be re-hauled since a gallon of milk in the trunk burst open and leaved an odd smell... just a nightmare. If you can avoid driving in the snow, always avoid it, even if you have an s4... i used to think this car was a tank, let me tell you its the opposite. And this was all at like 45mph

Lmao just use the proper tires. I drive in terrible conditions all of the time. Just the past week I have spent more time driving ~40-50mph on compact snow and ice than anything else, avoiding all of the idiots who were not prepared or uneducated for those driving conditons.

Sucks you got caught in light snow with improper equipment and little if any experience, but to suggest that these cars are incapable is silly. Don't blame the car, blame yourself.

Yes, your "dedicated winter set" will in fact save you from mother nature and coupled with experience. You just suck at driving.

[Snakeshot]

Ummm, when it snows I purposely go out and drive my car

[E.Anderson]

Lol don't get butthurt.... obviously it is not a tank!
I'm wanting my forum members to learn from my mistakes and not drive in bad weather, nothing is important enough unless you have to get to the hospital!
I'm happy you think you're so wise with your "what do you expect attitude" but bro.... tragedy can strike at any moment and that "dedicated winter set" wont save you from mother nature...... so AVOID bad weather, even if you have a real tank. Stay at home with your family and continue to post haughty remarks because bro, would rather put up with this than have someone lose their life
Stay at home, don't risk your life and your car in the elements, and I pray you guys don't have to learn this by experience
Stay safe guys

Get snow tires and quit your whining. You'll thank me later

[BJYorko]

This is the best advertising for Blizzaks I've seen yet...

[Geomatics_Tech]

This is the best advertising for Blizzaks I've seen yet...

I switched to Blizzak WS80's this year after 12 years on Nokians, and I will definitely be going back to Nokian next time around.

[fast_furious]

Look guys all I'm saying is that you shouldn't be over confident behind the wheel, anything can happen, don't be naive you guys aren't superman and you aren't professional drivers either
I've lived in the appalachian mountains of WV for over 30 years and have driven the harsh winters here just as much, so experience doesn't mean shit!

I'm sure there are many ways to increase your chances of success in adverse conditions and all are very good options, but when the wind is strong enough, those tires can only do so much to keep your car grounded

POINT OF MY POST - take CAUTION when driving in the elements, even if you're the "best driver in the world with no accidents in 15 years, and always drive in the snow, you're a professional, nobody in the world has better driving skills than you, I was a stunt driver for the transporter movies"........ use your best judgement otherwise you will sink just like the Titanic

Sure this car is much better than others in the snow - that's not the point - the point is there is no car that is 100% effective in the snow

So just use your best judgement guys in the elements guys, there is no 100% guarantee, please realize this and use your best judgements and think of the costs
If you really find this to be bad advice than I will happily enjoy while Darwin and natural selection give you some better advice

The question isn't if snow tires help, of course they do, the point is in some conditions you can have whatever, tragedy still strikes
So please just think twice, good luck guys, do as you please, maybe I sound like your mom, but maybe your mom was always right :P

[JoshDub]

Look guys all I'm saying is that you shouldn't be over confident behind the wheel, anything can happen, don't be naive you guys aren't superman and you aren't professional drivers either
I've lived in the appalachian mountains of WV for over 30 years and have driven the harsh winters here just as much, so experience doesn't mean shit!

I'm sure there are many ways to increase your chances of success in adverse conditions and all are very good options, but when the wind is strong enough, those tires can only do so much to keep your car grounded

POINT OF MY POST - take CAUTION when driving in the elements, even if you're the "best driver in the world with no accidents in 15 years, and always drive in the snow, you're a professional, nobody in the world has better driving skills than you, I was a stunt driver for the transporter movies"........ use your best judgement otherwise you will sink just like the Titanic

Sure this car is much better than others in the snow - that's not the point - the point is there is no car that is 100% effective in the snow

So just use your best judgement guys in the elements guys, there is no 100% guarantee, please realize this and use your best judgements and think of the costs
If you really find this to be bad advice than I will happily enjoy while Darwin and natural selection give you some better advice

The question isn't if snow tires help, of course they do, the point is in some conditions you can have whatever, tragedy still strikes
So please just think twice, good luck guys, do as you please, maybe I sound like your mom, but maybe your mom was always right :P

Blah blah blah now you are changing your stance.

Tragedy can strike in any condition. No point in living your life in fear. Nor is anyone here saying you don't have to be careful while driving in snow. Having proper equipment and experience is key (experience being the ability to make good decisions). You're just being a big baby because lack of experience caught your ass out in the cold.

[fast_furious]

Blah blah blah now you are changing your stance.

Tragedy can strike in any condition. No point in living your life in fear. Nor is anyone here saying you don't have to be careful while driving in snow. Having proper equipment and experience is key (experience being the ability to make good decisions). You're just being a big baby because lack of experience caught your ass out in the cold.

Lol bro stop FLEXIN! we are on the internet, do you feel strong??? I shall call you Mr. Oedipus since I'm sure you even gave your dad flack
You're from seattle? you probably bitch at all the hipsters while youre getting your morning coffee and complain that macklemore is still on the radio, so sir continue to spoil your mood and flex on the internet, I have nightcall on the MICU tonight so I'm going to sleep! I'm sure you will continue to rot your mind Mr. Oedipus!

[turbo_junkie]

If you can avoid driving in the snow, always avoid it, even if you have an s4... i used to think this car was a tank, let me tell you its the opposite. And this was all at like 45mph

LMAO

Your car is only as good as the tires that connect it to the ground. You were driving way too fast in the snow on crappy all seasons... and it's the car's failing The only lesson here is don't cheap out on proper tires, whether it's a good summer or winter set and SLOW DOWN