In love with car again after best mod ever - DSR Disable

**hyboost** · 02-18-2015 08:11 PM

We've had the car for close to a year now and did some mods almost immediately after buying the car (KW's, Caractere, AluKreuz, 21x10.5 AG's, 295 tires). The car was a blast, nice and low, pretty wide and handled great! But I have to be honest...after 13K miles, both my wife and I didn't enjoy driving the car anymore. We remembered it to be more fun, to handle much better. The car all of a sudden felt floaty, loose, like it wanted to drive itself. She initially noticed it and I dismissed it and told her she was crazy. But she kept complaining and she was right, it felt strange, like driving a Lincoln and not a performance car. It wasn't tight, it handled like crap.

We checked alignment, tires, bushings, suspecting maybe the rack (I'm sure Audi would laugh at me trying to warranty that as they would blame the suspension changes for the issue). We were frustrated with no solution in sight.

So I started researching it online and ran into all the DSR (Driver Steering Recommendation) issues on the A4/S4 and then saw that the problem also existed on Q5s. Today, we flipped the setting to off and WOW...the car is back. I took it out for a spirited run tonight and fell in love with it all over again. What a difference!

For those of you who haven't done it...don't wait. Go turn the damn thing off. Steering feels heavier, car stays planted and doesn't want to change lanes on you, you no longer have to keep correcting it as it tries to drive itself. We almost gave up on the car and I'm happy to say that we will now keep it and probably mod more (exhaust and APR Stage 2 coming soon I'm sure)

**zachf88** · 02-18-2015 09:05 PM

How does one turn it off? Is this just an SQ5 thing?

**Jay337** · 02-18-2015 09:13 PM

ok but what does it change to disable the DSR ?

can you still choose between comfort auto and dynamic steering ?

**ND40oz** · 02-18-2015 09:21 PM

I haven't noticed any steering issues, but I only use drive select in individual with the steering set to dynamic or dynamic, so I assume this doesn't come into play with those settings?

**snig** · 02-19-2015 03:54 AM

C'mon guys...Google.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...es-VAG-COM-Fix

**hyboost** · 02-19-2015 04:08 AM

Thanks snig. That's the link I used as well and has the details on the VAG-COM setting that needs to be flipped.

When it happens to your car, it affects all driving modes. Dynamic feels a little better than comfort, but still very spongy. When DSR is disabled, you can still use all the settings of the car. It just turns off the car trying to compensate for certain conditions. It seems to be caused by a software issue with no updates from Audi yet.

**Black3.2** · 02-19-2015 04:46 AM

I just recently picked up an SQ5 last week (had a b8 S4) and i was driving this morning and felt the exact same way you did. I then remembered about people complaining about this issue on their S4's and what do you know first post here this morning. Will be using VAG to uncheck that box.

Thanks

**Transfer** · 02-19-2015 06:27 AM

I had wanted to do this from the first day I had my SQ5 but I don't have VAGCOM or a laptop and no one had confirmed it helps our cars, so I never did. Now I'll get VCDS mobile or something so I can get it done. Thanks for posting up. Car looks amazing BTW. :)

**Jay337** · 02-19-2015 09:18 AM

does it will improve the car to drift in snow when the spin recovery will be disengage ?

**idahospeed** · 02-19-2015 09:24 AM

So I guess the real question is who in Orange County can hook me up?

**brad281** · 02-21-2015 08:35 AM

Is this an issue on the Q5 as well?

**snig** · 02-21-2015 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by brad281

Is this an issue on the Q5 as well?

Just the fast ones. ;-)

**brad281** · 02-21-2015 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by snig

Just the fast ones. ;-)

2013 3.0T S - line, stage 2 APR and some other mods. I think it qualifies.

**brad281** · 02-22-2015 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by hyboost

We've had the car for close to a year now and did some mods almost immediately after buying the car (KW's, Caractere, AluKreuz, 21x10.5 AG's, 295 tires). The car was a blast, nice and low, pretty wide and handled great! But I have to be honest...after 13K miles, both my wife and I didn't enjoy driving the car anymore. We remembered it to be more fun, to handle much better. The car all of a sudden felt floaty, loose, like it wanted to drive itself. She initially noticed it and I dismissed it and told her she was crazy. But she kept complaining and she was right, it felt strange, like driving a Lincoln and not a performance car. It wasn't tight, it handled like crap.

We checked alignment, tires, bushings, suspecting maybe the rack (I'm sure Audi would laugh at me trying to warranty that as they would blame the suspension changes for the issue). We were frustrated with no solution in sight.

So I started researching it online and ran into all the DSR (Driver Steering Recommendation) issues on the A4/S4 and then saw that the problem also existed on Q5s. Today, we flipped the setting to off and WOW...the car is back. I took it out for a spirited run tonight and fell in love with it all over again. What a difference!

For those of you who haven't done it...don't wait. Go turn the damn thing off. Steering feels heavier, car stays planted and doesn't want to change lanes on you, you no longer have to keep correcting it as it tries to drive itself. We almost gave up on the car and I'm happy to say that we will now keep it and probably mod more (exhaust and APR Stage 2 coming soon I'm sure)

Tried to uncheck this on my 2013 q5 and it said coding rejected. Any issues getting it to take?

**brian5s** · 02-23-2015 02:07 PM

Same here, error #22. I have the WSC set, but, the Equipt. # is 0000, so I'm sure that's probably it? Can anyone share their complete WSC?

EDIT: Thanks to those who have recommended the "Keep Trying" approach. It worked after a few engine stop/starts.

**ed@mtl** · 02-23-2015 02:42 PM

if the code is rejected. try to turn the engine off and on. it should work. that's what i did.

**hyboost** · 02-23-2015 04:24 PM

We didn't run into any issues but I've read on the A4/S4 forums that a few have had to try a few times as ed@mtl suggested.

**zachf88** · 02-24-2015 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by snig

C'mon guys...Google.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...es-VAG-COM-Fix

Whats the point of posting if we can just google?

Also, that link dind't provide that much info

**bigoltater** · 02-25-2015 01:32 AM

I got a Q7 2013 supercharged, 3.0T, is this on mine? Can it be changed?

**eastbayrae** · 02-25-2015 06:54 AM

Damn them wheels look like Rottiforms.

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**prophecy** · 03-02-2015 08:21 PM

Definitely corrects the wondering feel. Steering feels great. Two thumbs up for this mod!

**Smittylube** · 03-27-2015 08:38 AM

I agree - simple to do and no down side. Steering is still very easy to turn, but now has a more normal feel mostly 35 mph & ^

Funny how there are so many good to great things about these cars its a bit mind boggling how or why there is this 'feature'

**VroomVroom** · 05-01-2015 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by hyboost

...For those of you who haven't done it...don't wait. Go turn the damn thing off. Steering feels heavier, car stays planted and doesn't want to change lanes on you, you no longer have to keep correcting it as it tries to drive itself.

Finally got around to doing this today. Thanks very much for pointing out the solution. Thus far I've only driven a handful of miles, but those were on a stretch of local freeway that has historically driven the car as opposed to the other way around. MUCH better. Your description is spot-on. Very happy...thanks again.

**Transfer** · 05-01-2015 11:07 PM

F me. I'm getting VCDS to do this now.

**snig** · 05-02-2015 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by Transfer

F me. I'm getting VCDS to do this now.

Floaty feeling accelerating through a slight turn is no Bueno.

**Transfer** · 05-02-2015 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by snig

Floaty feeling accelerating through a slight turn is no Bueno.

Agreed. Ordered! I've put off buying it for years but DSR puts me over the edge.

**will822** · 03-03-2016 11:55 AM

Sorry to dig up an old thread. I was searching the forum and came upon this thread. Was wondering for all those that performed this mod, is it all positive feedback? Any negatives? I would love to perform this mod and was wondering if there are any members here from NJ that would be able to help a fellow enthusiast?

Thanks.

**Smittylube** · 03-03-2016 03:53 PM

you can always switch it back - but you wont want to. It drives 'right' after its set right.

**yakev724** · 03-03-2016 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by will822

Sorry to dig up an old thread. I was searching the forum and came upon this thread. Was wondering for all those that performed this mod, is it all positive feedback? Any negatives? I would love to perform this mod and was wondering if there are any members here from NJ that would be able to help a fellow enthusiast?

Thanks.

I'm in Jersey City, near the water. If you want to make the drive I'd be happy to help you out.

Drive Auto Works has two locations and they also offer free vag-com coding. Might be closer to you.

**will822** · 03-04-2016 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by yakev724

I'm in Jersey City, near the water. If you want to make the drive I'd be happy to help you out.

Drive Auto Works has two locations and they also offer free vag-com coding. Might be closer to you.

Thank you yakev724. I am sometime in Jersey City visiting friends. Can I PM you if I am going down that way? Very much appreciated.

**RevTo9k** · 03-30-2018 04:43 AM

I’m in Morrisplains NJ and I just got a vagcom to do just this on my 2013 s6.
I see an earlier post of a fellow mebr in NJ needing assistance .... ping me . I like to work on cars and now that I have the full shop manual and Ross vagcom, I will be working on this beast a lot more

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**RevTo9k** · 03-30-2018 04:44 AM

Before I fire up vag com for this DSR change , is this something easy to do? Is it self explanatory when I load up VcDS and just mess around through the menus?

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**RevTo9k** · 03-30-2018 05:02 AM

I’m new to vag com . I just got it today to do this DSR update!!
Can someone babysit me through the steps ?
I couldn’t find a step by step on how to flip the bit to turn of DSR.
I have a 2013 s6

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**Smittylube** · 03-30-2018 05:47 AM

I did that the first day I bought mine. The latest software update recall made it even better IMO.

**VroomVroom** · 03-30-2018 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by RevTo9k

I’m new to vag com . I just got it today to do this DSR update!!
Can someone babysit me through the steps ?
I couldn’t find a step by step on how to flip the bit to turn of DSR.
I have a 2013 s6
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As linked in a post above...first post in this thread: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...es-VAG-COM-Fix

**Pittdawg** · 03-30-2018 07:29 AM

Do most aftermarket tunes automatically disable this?

**MSq5** · 03-30-2018 11:04 AM

I think there are maybe six questions asked and no answers given in this thread about whether this is a feature on the non-S version of the Q5 Those of us with the "regular" Q5 but with the 3.0T engine can be as quick as the SQ5 or considerably quicker than the stock SQ5 once we have aftermarket mods and tuning. I'm EPL Stage 2 and with mods am much quicker than a stock SQ5, probably at about 430 crank horsepower, give or take. We were dismissed earlier in this thread with a snide remark about "only if you have a fast car" or words to that effect. Still no clear answer.

I have VCDS. I don't want to spend a lot of time going through the sub menus and getting to a screen only to find out that it will not take the change or that it is grayed out, if this is exclusively an SQ5 feature and has already been determined to be so. If it is unique to SQ5 suspension or a particular suspension package, then it would be helpful to know this.

Can anyone actually answer the question being raised several times? Has anyone with a "regular" Q5 been able to make this coding change in VCDS? Inquiring minds want to know. I'm willing to go through that process in order to bring closure to the question, but it would be helpful to know if someone else has already done this successfully.

**VroomVroom** · 03-30-2018 11:17 AM

I believe it applies to vehicles equipped with ADS. If so, this certainly includes Q5's with the package. In any case, the vehicles have *much* more in common than in what distinguishes them, and I'd be surprised if the electronic steering components were in the latter category.

VCDS programming has nothing to do with ECM performance tuning, so that derailment probably should have been avoided.

That said, we're talking about a < 30-second time investment to see if the coding change is applicable. Do it when you're adding other goodies and the opportunity cost is even less significant.