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    Trading the RS5 for an S7?

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    Hey Guys - I just opened a new business that requires a lot of driving and hauling some goods around. I am contemplating trading my RS5 (2013 with 25k miles) for a 2014 S7. I am not only considering this because of the practicality of a larger car, 4 doors, and a semi-hatchback, but also because I really miss tuning and feel there are a lot more goodies out there for the turbocharged platform vs the NA V8 (Ive posted multiple times begging for some fun stuff to come to market for this engine)

    I am thinking I can find a good trade of equal value? What do you think?

    Any drawbacks that anyone can think of that I should consider before making up my mind?

    Thanks for the input!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings namvar's Avatar
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    I was seriously considering buying an S7 before getting my RS5. My wife and I had decided that my next car should be a 4 door because of how difficult it has been to get our daughter in the back. So I researched all the sedans in the price range I was looking and came to the clear conclusion that the S7 was best in class. When the time came, we decided that switching from Coupes to Sedans, no matter how awesome of a car I was getting, would be a major shock to my system (Been driving coupes for 30 years).

    The other thing that I eventually realized is that there was always the RS7 that I would be looking up at. That would have eventually bothered me too.

    As far as driving and handling are concerned the S7 is a wonderful car but it is a sedan and a bit noisier than the coupes.

    Disclaimer: this was my story and I would recommend that you drive the S7 more than a couple of times to make sure that you will not be disappointed.


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    Veteran Member Four Rings oascom's Avatar
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    I think it's a fair trade. Ideally it would be rs7 but s7 is awesome too
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    Veteran Member Three Rings Octothorpe's Avatar
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    The 7 is pretty damned sweet. I wound up getting the 5 because I prefer smaller cars (the 7 is giant in comparison to my former DD, and to the 5). I also looked at the over 100k price on the RS, and couldn't break that psychological barrier.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings ttusqrl's Avatar
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    I was on the fence between a S7 and a RS5. My wife (surprisingly) convinced me to just go for the RS5. Am I happy? Absolutely. That said, I would have been happy either way.

    Moral of the story: you have chosen two wonderful options!


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    Veteran Member Four Rings namvar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octothorpe View Post
    The 7 is pretty damned sweet. I wound up getting the 5 because I prefer smaller cars (the 7 is giant in comparison to my former DD, and to the 5). I also looked at the over 100k price on the RS, and couldn't break that psychological barrier.
    No kidding!

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    Veteran Member Three Rings lsondubz's Avatar
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    I was thinking the same thing as I love the s7, however after visiting 10+ dealerships I reaized my trade-in value was 5-10k below every s7 on the market.

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    @cojoe just made this switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsondubz View Post
    I was thinking the same thing as I love the s7, however after visiting 10+ dealerships I reaized my trade-in value was 5-10k below every s7 on the market.
    How about selling the RS5 on the private market. Do you have a '13 or '14 RS?

    I've got a '14 that I may have to trade in for a larger car for the same reason.. That and the roads where I live in No California are crap and diving the RS on crappy roads is getting old... Wish we had adjustable suspension so that I could run it in a soft mode while driving in the city.

    Drove a friends bmw 535d w/ oem adjustable suspension and really liked how comfortable it was over rough roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scmguru View Post
    How about selling the RS5 on the private market. Do you have a '13 or '14 RS?

    I've got a '14 that I may have to trade in for a larger car for the same reason.. That and the roads where I live in No California are crap and diving the RS on crappy roads is getting old... Wish we had adjustable suspension so that I could run it in a soft mode while driving in the city.

    Drove a friends bmw 535d w/ oem adjustable suspension and really liked how comfortable it was over rough roads.
    Would something like a PSS10 with IRC make sense? Obviously the RS models don't have ride control, but the IRC module with PSS10s gives us that option.
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    Senior Member Two Rings jlifschutz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by scmguru View Post
    How about selling the RS5 on the private market. Do you have a '13 or '14 RS?.
    I have a 2013 with every option, including the ceramics. There's no chance a dealership would ever give me more than 56k for my car so I'm thinking I'll try to get the most for it privately and then make the S7 purchase when the right color combo comes up. I tend to be pretty particular when it comes to the optional packages and color combos, and I need those damn diamond cut seats!


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    Quote Originally Posted by namvar View Post
    My wife and I had decided that my next car should be a 4 door because of how difficult it has been to get our daughter in the back. ..
    my wife been making this complaint lately and wants to give up her A5 .. i told her that's fine.. maybe she get something more accessible now and a B9 A5 when my son gets older enough to climb in the back himself but she knows i'm not giving up my 5
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    The S6, no te gusta?

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    I had the S6 for a while and if you're going for the S7 for size then don't look back. It was the overbigness of the S6 that was wrong for me but the rest was pretty good (big boat thing you will have get used to) . A colleague has the S7 and he's very smiley about it. Great engine, get the $$$ audio too if you can justify it.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings lsondubz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by scmguru View Post
    How about selling the RS5 on the private market. Do you have a '13 or '14 RS?.
    the market for these cars is horrible. I have mine at $57,500 right now and getting low balls of $51k.. best offer on the table right now is $56k which is nowhere near an s7 price, I have 24k miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsondubz View Post
    the market for these cars is horrible. I have mine at $57,500 right now and getting low balls of $51k.. best offer on the table right now is $56k which is nowhere near an s7 price, I have 24k miles
    Having just been shopping for these, I can tell you a couple of things I've found that may or may not be useful:
    1.) Year model -- common sense dictates that a 2013 be less than a 2014, but typically, I see first model years hold their value a little better than the '13 does over the '14 since it is the same look. This may be due to the fact that there are a considerably larger amount of '13s available than '14s
    2.) Saturation -- I have posted in other threads that the sheer amount of used RS5s available actually scared me -- it was making me think something was wrong with the car. Within 500 miles of DFW there were 30 RS5s available while only 4 S6s, 10 S7s, and 11 RS7s. This is driving market price down considerably in my opinion.
    3.) Differentiation -- I feel that many people do not see a long list of pros for the RS5 over the S5. While us owners disagree, just look at the number of threads out there about how S4s and S5s are faster than RS5s and suggest buying the non-R version. I can personally say that while they may be faster, there is a significant different to my brain, but maybe it is just my brain. Take the other models, like the 6 and 7, and you'll see that there is no R version for the 6 and the 7 breaks the mental price barrier of 6 digits. There is obvious reason to choose the S over the A, but that becomes the end of the discussion (for the most part).

    I paid significantly more than 51k, 56k, or 57.5k, but I feel I got a gem that is somewhat unique (audi exclusive color that is my favorite) with low mileage and not modded out (I did not want something that someone else might have messed up). Your mileage may vary, but this so-called limited production car seems to be more available than other cars not tagged with that moniker.
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    Are you only looking at a preowned S7? Or new? I work for Audi Beverly Hills and I know we have a couple new ones, but I can check on Preowned for you if you like

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    I test drove the S7 before buying the RS5... The comfort of the S7 is fantastic and I do like the way you can tune the crap out of a forced induction car as I had a TTRS before the RS5... That being said, the V8 in the current RS5 is the end of an era and nothing sounds like the high-revving V8 in the RS5... It's interesting that Audi left the old RS4 V8 in the current R8 V8 rather than updating it to the current RS5 V8 which was updated and based on the 5.2 V10... Good luck with your S7 purchase, it's a great car...
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    Senior Member Two Rings jlifschutz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by trenton735 View Post
    Are you only looking at a preowned S7? Or new? I work for Audi Beverly Hills and I know we have a couple new ones, but I can check on Preowned for you if you like
    Im only looking for a used S7 or a used 2014/2015 S6. Mainly going for the size but the S7 is definitely sleeker. Going really for size.

    I want used because I want to just trade my car straight up for it and not have to throw in extra cash.

    As mentioned above the market for the RS5 is horrible right now. There are a lot for sale for some reason, so if thats the case I may just hold out a bit longer.
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    Yeah, you won't be able to trade your RS5 straight up for a S7 even if it is used, and that goes for the S6 as well unless you start including 2013's.


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    Trading the RS5 for an S7?

    Here's my opinion on the resale value and poor response to private sale dilemma:

    1. All dealers low ball you; in the history of car trade-ins that's how it always is unless you have something really special and even then they are going to try and low ball you.

    2. The market for a used car in the 60-70k price range that also looks (to 95% of the population) nearly identical to a new one (A5 and S5) in the 50-60k range is going to be quite small.

    3. Most in the market that can afford a used 60-70k car can also afford a new 80-100k car without it putting a dent in their finances.

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