Cel light after piggies and jhm tune. HELP!

[irulea2]

Hello all,
I had my pre-cats gutted a couple of weeks ago in addition to adding ecs h-pipe. I picked up the car from the shop with the cel on which I was told was normal for "piggies" however once I got my jhm tune it would code it out. I just got the jhm tune installed on Thursday and in less than 15 miles the cell is back. I have attached the scan that I ran this morning. I clear the codes and took it on another spin and cel just came back with just the 2 fault codes.

Could the O2 sensors have been damaged during piggie install? I also have been noticing slight moisture droplets coming from where the O2 sensors may be. If I let the car run for a few minutes in the driveway and then move it. I see to identicle moist spots on ground which I'm baffled about.

Am I overthinking things here? Could the installer of the tune messed up and not tuned correctly, what I mean is that when he was attempting to select which program to install, he wasn't sure as he said that jhm had a couple of software options to choose from for the rs4. I told him that I had the h-pipe and piggies installed and it seemed like he didn't really understand what I was talking about. Thank you all in advance!



Saturday,01,November,2014,09:02:23:32264
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
Data version: 20120401



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Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6/B7
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 67
69 75 76 77

VIN: WUADU78EX8N902462 Mileage: 163400km/101532miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BNS1.lbl
Part No SW: 8E1 910 560 A HW: 8E1 907 560
Component: 4.4L 91/V6 JHM ª0060
Revision: 57H19--- Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Coding: 01040009180F0160
Shop #: WSC 22302 444 54544
VCID: 244DF249E7C0DE9

3 Faults Found:
000313 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2
P0139 - 004 - Response too Slow - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 163357 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 3261 /min
Load: 16.9 %
Speed: 86.0 km/h
Temperature: 79.0°C
Temperature: 32.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.716 V

004372 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2
P1114 - 008 - Internal Resistance too High - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 163357 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 3210 /min
Load: 16.9 %
Speed: 85.0 km/h
Temperature: 79.0°C
Temperature: 32.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 970.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.589 V

000320 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2
P0140 - 004 - No Activity
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 163398 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 776 /min
Load: 14.9 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 93.0°C
Temperature: 39.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.589 V

Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 G HW: 8E0 614 517 BD
Component: ESP8 quattro H06 0150
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0004533
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2B5F19758A1E111

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 36
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x4022
Hex Value: 0x0013
Hex Value: 0x8593
Hex Value: 0x0001


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 3233
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6DDBD76D278ADF1

1 Fault Found:
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 N
Component: int. Lastmodul ECE 0907
Coding: 01021
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 3D7B272D376A8F1

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 N HW:
Component: SDAR SIRIUS
Revision: Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0247360
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 346D020954204E9

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -

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Address 11: Engine II Labels: 079-910-560-BNS2.lbl
Part No SW: 8E1 910 560 A HW: 8E1 907 560
Component: 4.4L 91/V6 JHM ª0060
Revision: 57H19--- Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Coding: 01040009180F0160
Shop #: WSC 22302 444 54544
VCID: 244DF249E7C0DE9

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 M HW: 8E0 959 655 M
Component: Airbag 9.41 H01 4240
Revision: 91H01424 Serial number: 003CS000H1L$
Coding: 0432607
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 41835BDD1892EB1

Part No: 8E0 910 339 D
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. H03 0080

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549-T.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 T
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0401
Coding: 04441
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 448D52C95480FE9

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 983 F HW: 8E0 920 983 F
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H10 0100
Revision: 0100 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0023208
Shop #: WSC 22302 444 54544
VCID: 32610411AE34409

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: F1E34B1DBBB2BB1

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 P HW: 8E0 035 192 P
Component: RNS-E US H75 0250
Revision: 05S Serial number: AUZBZ7H2402566
Coding: 0309637
Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
VCID: 31630B1DAB327B1

2 Faults Found:
02261 - Data Medium
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 42
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.12.10
Time: 14:33:59

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 1012
Clock: 14:34

00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 23
Reset counter: 43
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.11.19
Time: 17:47:55

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 1402
Clock: 08:47


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 CP
Component: Komfortgerát T7B 4336
Coding: 11880
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 81031BDD8B12AB1

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801G
Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0706

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802G
Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0706

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0606

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0606

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 F HW: 4F0 907 357 F
Component: AFS 1 H01 0020
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000019
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2953E37D80E2031

Part No: 8E0 941 329 A
Component: AFS-Modul links H05 0030

Part No: 8E0 941 329 A
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH05 0030

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 28
Time Indication: 0


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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 P HW: 8E0 035 192 P
Component: RNS-E US H75 0250
Revision: 05S Serial number: AUZBZ7H2402566
Coding: 0309637
Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
VCID: 31630B1DAB327B1

2 Faults Found:
02261 - Data Medium
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 42
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.12.10
Time: 14:33:59

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 1012
Clock: 14:34

00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 23
Reset counter: 43
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.11.19
Time: 17:47:55

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 1402
Clock: 08:47


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Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 8E0-907-273.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 907 273 A HW: 8E0 907 273 A
Component: Reifendruck 3 H04 0130
Coding: 0062523
Shop #: WSC 02197 785 00200
VCID: 2A511C7186E4089

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 8E0-919-283-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 919 283 D HW: 8E0 919 283 D
Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0010
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 00067802020807
Coding: 0000304
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 31630B1DAB327B1

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 R HW: 8P0 862 335 R
Component: FSE_255x BT H26 0350
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005069950
Coding: 0011877
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 458B4FCD0FBAC71

No fault code found.

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[Stubek]

most all of that is caused by your secondary O2 sensor reading too rich due to lack of catalyst in the former catalytic converter.
Roc-Euro and a few others sell O2 sensor bungs that have catalyst in them to trick the computer. Don't worry about the secondary O2 sensor as it only tells the car how efficient the catalyst is, it doesn't change A/F mixture, detonation, or other stuff.

[irulea2]

most all of that is caused by your secondary O2 sensor reading too rich due to lack of catalyst in the former catalytic converter.
Roc-Euro and a few others sell O2 sensor bungs that have catalyst in them to trick the computer. Don't worry about the secondary O2 sensor as it only tells the car how efficient the catalyst is, it doesn't change A/F mixture, detonation, or other stuff.

That's what I hear. The concern is that the tune is supposed to account for that and prevent cel.

[Datadatum]

^ Is it?

I had my rear O2's fail not long after installing DPs. JHM tune. Replacing the O2 sensors with new units resolved the issue.

[JimmyBones]

It is very common for people to mix up the rear oxygen sensors when reinstalling too.

[65vetteC6]

It is very common for people to mix up the rear oxygen sensors when reinstalling too.

This, make sure they didnt plug in the rear bank 1 plug into rear bank 2 plug and vise versa

[irulea2]

I'll have the mechanic who did the work check it ASAP. Thanks guys.

[irulea2]

This, make sure they didnt plug in the rear bank 1 plug into rear bank 2 plug and vise versa

Just to make sure I understand correctly, The actual electrical plugs can't be mixed up but the actual hardware that screws into the POST cat s2 is mixed up possibly, correct?

This portion?

[tony424]

Having a similar problem as the OP, so are you saying the o2 spacers Roc-Euro sells will take care of the problem even if the sensor is still faulty? Or would the sensor need replacement first. Also would Y-Bands fix this problem?

[EUROSWAGR]

If you have the JHM tune, don't use spacers...they are pointless

The actual connector part of the sensor could be swapped, but they are usually different colors and if your mechanic screwed up a color coded plug..you should probably run away from him quickly.




No an O2 spacer WILL NOT fix a faulty sensor. Please Goolge "how a rear O2 works" and then Google "why an O2 spacer helps prevent a CEL"

and I think you mean V BANDS...but you have no clue what you are talking about. Google that too...

[irulea2]

Having a similar problem as the OP, so are you saying the o2 spacers Roc-Euro sells will take care of the problem even if the sensor is still faulty? Or would the sensor need replacement first. Also would Y-Bands fix this problem?

That pic isn't of my underside, it was just an example. No spacers are needed w a tune

[irulea2]

If you have the JHM tune, don't use spacers...they are pointless

The actual connector part of the sensor could be swapped, but they are usually different colors and if your mechanic screwed up a color coded plug..you should probably run away from him quickly.




No an O2 spacer WILL NOT fix a faulty sensor. Please Goolge "how a rear O2 works" and then Google "why an O2 spacer helps prevent a CEL"

and I think you mean V BANDS...but you have no clue what you are talking about. Google that too...

Not using spacers, that pic was for reference. I would assume if they were colored plugs and he plugged them in correctly, he could have bolted them in the wrong bungs, correct?

[EUROSWAGR]

Not using spacers, that pic was for reference. I would assume if they were colored plugs and he plugged them in correctly, he could have bolted them in the wrong bungs, correct?

Yes, it's very likely because people do it all the time. Complacent people IMHO, but everyone makes mistakes I guess. Yeah those aren't RS4 DPs in the picture.

[RS4Taxi]

my light is on after maganflow DP & JHM tune as well. Haven't taken it back to try & resolve yet.