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    Starting trouble

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    I have a 2003 A4 3.0 with 169k miles on it. It is currently sitting in my garage unwilling to start and treat me to the driving pleasure you know these cars offer. Early in our relationship, maybe 20k miles ago, I had the common issue of difficulty starting after fueling. Browsing helpful forums such as this, I fixed the problem by replacing the n80 purge valve and charcoal canister. I haven't had the same problem since when it comes to fueling. However in the past couple months I've been suffering similar difficulty starting as I did after fueling before. The difference now being, it occurred randomly and unrelated to fuel stops. It would take a couple tries to get it started, after the initial normal first attempt, I would hold the throttle down about 3/4 and she would fire and clears its throat with some high rpms. Then it would run normally. Well about a week ago I tried starting it and it did the same crank, fire to ~1500rpm and die. So I tried pumping throttle on second, third etc attempts. After a few attempts it wouldn't even start but just crank. And thats where I sit currently. So I bit the bullet and ordered the RossTech Vagcom cable. Here is my auto scan result(I deleted modules w/o faults):


    Friday,13,February,2015,14:37:00:40539
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.1.1 (x64)
    Data version: 20150130


    VIN: WAULT68E03A234223 License Plate:
    Mileage: 272700km-169447mi Repair Order:



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    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
    67 69 75 76 77

    VIN: Mileage: 272700km-169447miles
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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 06C-909-559-ASN.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 909 559 E HW: 8E0 909 059
    Component: 3.0L V6/5V G 0003
    Coding: 0016751
    Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000
    VCID: 377D127F45D3DF999FA-515E

    8 Faults Found:
    16815 - Warm Up Catalyst; Bank 2
    P0431 - 001 - Efficiency Below Threshold - MIL ON
    16805 - Warm Up Catalyst; Bank 1
    P0421 - 001 - Efficiency Below Threshold
    17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
    P1570 - 008 - - Intermittent
    16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
    P0300 - 008 - - Intermittent
    16687 - Cylinder 3
    P0303 - 008 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
    16539 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S1; Heating Circuit
    P0155 - 008 - Malfunction - Intermittent
    16840 - EVAP System
    P0456 - 002 - Very Small Leak Detected
    16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
    P0113 - 002 - Signal too High - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0000 0000

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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 820 043 L
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1116
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    VCID: 2A5B3B0BD6617271104-5140

    1 Fault Found:
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 953 549 N
    Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0308
    Coding: 02041
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    VCID: 3E73075B3AE9EED15CC-4B00

    1 Fault Found:
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 920 950 L
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D36
    Coding: 03200
    Shop #: WSC 02301
    VCID: 326B236BFEB13AB1A84-515E
    WAULT68E03A234223 AUZ6Z0B0345175

    1 Fault Found:
    01176 - Key
    07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 959 760
    Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0203
    Coding: 00001
    Shop #: WSC 02301
    VCID: 71E9EC673B3741A991E-4AE8

    2 Faults Found:
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
    79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes

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    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 959 433 BB
    Component: Komfortgerát T7B 1311
    Coding: 11836
    Shop #: WSC 40201
    VCID: 72EBE36B3E317AB1684-4B00

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801
    Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0002

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
    Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0002

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
    Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0002

    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
    Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0002

    9 Faults Found:
    01374 - Alarm triggered by Terminal 15
    35-00 - -
    01371 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Driver's Side
    35-00 - -
    01572 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Passenger Side
    35-00 - -
    01574 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Rear Right
    35-00 - -
    00955 - Key 1
    35-00 - -
    00956 - Key 2
    35-00 - -
    00915 - Window Regulator Switch; Rear Right; Driver (E55)
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
    62-10 - No or Incorrect Adjustment - Intermittent
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
    53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent


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    Address 56: Radio Labels: None
    Part No: ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙
    Component: symphony II ˙˙˙ 0051
    Coding: 32767
    Shop #: WSC 131071
    VCID: 76E3DF7B5259669144C-4E96

    Component: symphony II ˙˙˙ 0051

    Component: symphony II ˙˙˙ 0051

    Component: symphony II ˙˙˙ 0051

    Component: symphony II ˙˙˙ 0051

    2 Faults Found:
    00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier
    36-00 - Open Circuit
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
    127-10 - Unknown Error Elaboration - Intermittent

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:25)--------------------------

    Upon seeing that cylinder three misfire, I replaced that coil pack simply because I changed the spark plugs a few months ago and a coil pack was only $20. Unfortunately that didn't work. I've also reprogrammed both my keys after replacing their batteries. I reprogrammed them using my VagCom and they are working to lock and unlock the door. The batteries were failing and I had to reprogram them previously due to weak signal so this should account for the immobilizer faults. Also there is no immobilizer light flashing while cranking. My 02 sensor faults have been there since I bought the car.
    Any advice is greatly appreciated!

    Thank you

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    This (17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer ) tells that there is a problem with the immobilizer. Not sure how to fix that. You'd be better off posting in the main forums.
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