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    2.7t icms pinout

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    hii

    i need pinout for icms from ecu to ....

    i have missfire on bank 1 and i changed evreything but....

    i think i have problem with the wires and i need ICMS pinout for booth banks to ckeck it

    or anyway to check the wires or how to test ICMS

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    http://socals4.com/repair/

    b5s4 electrical diagrams for 2.7t engine are exactly the same as c5 2.7t.

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    thxx so much

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    not a problem ,enjoy.

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    rekay i did not understand anything from there

    can u help please ?

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    u gived me somthing more harder my languge is not english

    thxx anyway

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    lol, man, mine isn't either... find electrical diagrams lessons in Hebrew and take it from there? If you don't understand it and can't learn it, don't screw around with it as you will damage the car....

    But then you could also use google translation service and convert these PDF from english to HEbrew....

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    why u cant tel me just which pins they are ?

    not big job to check connectivity with multimeter

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    Quote Originally Posted by milanocito View Post
    why u cant tel me just which pins they are ?

    not big job to check connectivity with multimeter
    Open "2.7L - Engine (Biturbo), Code APB.pdf" and find "ignition coil", N122 and N192 are your ICMs in there named "power output stage". Pins are shown and their location described. Colors are described on the side of each diagram.

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    bank1

    pin 94 grey yellow

    pin 102 white green

    pin 110 green grey

    corect ?

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    This is like the third or fourth time you've posted a thread asking for wiring solutions

    This is like the third of fourth time someone has directed you to wiring diagrams

    This is like the third or fourth time you've said you don't understand wiring diagrams


    I'd strongly urge you to find someone in your area that understands the electrical systems of these cars and have them do the work. If you can't read a simple wiring diagram, which is the best way to find the answer to your question, you probably shouldn't be doing the work.

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    If that's what the colors say on pin out, sure (not able to view it now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon002 View Post
    This is like the third or fourth time you've posted a thread asking for wiring solutions

    This is like the third of fourth time someone has directed you to wiring diagrams

    This is like the third or fourth time you've said you don't understand wiring diagrams


    I'd strongly urge you to find someone in your area that understands the electrical systems of these cars and have them do the work. If you can't read a simple wiring diagram, which is the best way to find the answer to your question, you probably shouldn't be doing the work.
    I've had a patience of an angle on this since it is me who inevitably provides miloncino with info only the hear "don't know english" and "can't read it".

    I am actually just about done giving him the fish, "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"

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    Quote Originally Posted by julex View Post
    I've had a patience of an angle on this since it is me who inevitably provides miloncino with info only the hear "don't know english" and "can't read it".

    I am actually just about done giving him the fish, "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"

    It's almost comical at this point. He asks for advice, when you give it he either doesn't understand or tells you that you're wrong. Well if he knows better, why ask? I've stopped giving advice as well.

    If I spent as much time as him tracing a misfire and couldn't find it, I'd be at a shop letting a professional take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon002 View Post
    It's almost comical at this point. He asks for advice, when you give it he either doesn't understand or tells you that you're wrong. Well if he knows better, why ask? I've stopped giving advice as well.

    If I spent as much time as him tracing a misfire and couldn't find it, I'd be at a shop letting a professional take over.
    I agree with both of you guys. We all have given suggestions to milanocito, and there never seems to be any positive feedback - like I tried this and this worked and that didn't work. I understand misfires can be tricky. But remember, this is also the same guy who wanted to changed his awd 2.7T to a fwd because he thinks it will be faster with lighter weight...

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    thxx for alll for any help for any replay

    for that post with misfire the problem did not rezolve

    about the wires i was asking about camshaft wirs not icms

    and i,m not shine to ask for help

    something i dont understand it i say i,m not understand it

    and about thanks : thanks in advance for evrey one helped me or not

    if u wannt help just dont reply to the post

    i have now autodata maybe will help

    brandonn002 when i told u u are wrong and i dont need your help anymore please dont replay to my posts do your professional take over

    it is not hard to say thxxx

    but this car get me crazy that all

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    and u suth31

    about the 2.7t awd to fwd u did not know that exist 2,7t fwd and never drive it if u dont know somthing dont write about it and keep your philosophy for you

    the fwd is more faster than awd from 0-250 learn somthing for free and more eco than awd

    and evrey post why are opning it here in this forum will help many people they have the same problem

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    julex thanks for help i checked the wires and all is good

    thxx so much

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    not a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milanocito View Post
    and u suth31

    about the 2.7t awd to fwd u did not know that exist 2,7t fwd and never drive it if u dont know somthing dont write about it and keep your philosophy for you

    the fwd is more faster than awd from 0-250 learn somthing for free and more eco than awd

    and evrey post why are opning it here in this forum will help many people they have the same problem
    have I ever driven a fwd 2.7T? No. Do I need to to understand the physics behind it? Also no. I think it was you that claimed a friends car that is fwd beat your car, so you "think" it is faster. But your car has had issues with misfires. I can't remember if you are modded or stage1, but you seemed amazed. Will a lighter car with the same exact horsepower win that drag race? Most likely. A big part of drag racing is the driver. But I can tell you from first hand experience, a car with AWD with a driver that knows how to launch it, will either tie or beat that lighter fwd car. I have seen it time and time and time again. No philosophy when I can see it proven on the track, and not on the "butt dyno". Just because that fwd car is not in the USA and I have never driven it does not mean that physics can not cross international borders. Also, I am uneducated with the gearing of the fwd vs the awd transmissions/differentials, and this may be the biggest contributor to an advantage while drag racing the same car with same horsepower, albeit one is lighter, and both have different transmissions/driven wheels.

    And if you check back to your "2.7t misfire on bank1" thread, you can see that both Brandon and I responded back to you within an hour and 40 minutes of your initial post to CHECK YOUR SPARK PLUGS. What did you find today with your only update to that thread that wasn't whining? You found that your spark plugs were wrong or poorly gapped (I can't see the picture for some reason). Checking spark plugs is one of the easiest things to do, and that is why it is most often over looked. You state yourself that YOU installed those plugs, so YOU are at fault for installing either the wrong plugs or plugs with the wrong gap. Within an hour and 40 minutes of your original post you had your answer on things to check. Everyone was trying to help you, yet you have to help yourself. I am honestly glad you figured out at least one portion of what may have been your underlying issue. But as far as my philosophy goes, don't worry, I won't be helping you out with any more suggestions.

    Good luck with fixing your car

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    Yup, good luck on fixing your car. I'll no longer be offering suggestions either. I'll just sit and watch you run in circles, chasing your tail as you have been for the past few weeks.

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