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    Veteran Member Two Rings crew219's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    We do want everyone to know we are taking your concerns seriously and are looking to get a better response to the questions being asked. Please understand we're working with the appropriate parties to ensure this happens and are not intentionally delaying the response.

    Some may have missed some of our discussion points earlier in this thread, so if that's the case, please read the statement below:


    Thank you,

    -Arin
    The issues I see with you coming up with an explanation are:

    1) APR knew about this for years and have indicated that Corsa designs these exhausts in conjunction with APR
    2) APR requested a material change from 304L to 400 stainless
    3) APR took those photos and provided them to me
    4) Corsa has dropped APR and the exhaust inventory left in your possession is "APR's problem"
    5) Numerous contradictory statements by both Arin & Sean@APR
    6) How can you explain customers waiting for months for RMA replacements / being rejected when APR has inventory of the exhaust?
    7) APR's immediate plan being to clear out these Corsa exhausts in preparation for the outsourced exhausts provided by a certain employee which I introduced to APR.
    8) Distributors are unhappy due to the deception surrounding the exhausts in addition to the new distribution policies which require higher minimum order quantities (offloading these exhausts onto distributors)

    Keep in mind that I have numerous conversations in my possession with APR employees ridiculing the Corsa product which I will not hesitate to release in the event that your official "response" is contrary to the truth.

    How are those superchargers coming along?

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by crew219 View Post
    The issues I see with you coming up with an explanation are:

    1) APR knew about this for years and have indicated that Corsa designs these exhausts in conjunction with APR
    2) APR requested a material change from 304L to 400 stainless
    3) APR took those photos and provided them to me
    4) Corsa has dropped APR and the exhaust inventory left in your possession is "APR's problem"
    5) Numerous contradictory statements by both Arin & Sean@APR
    6) How can you explain customers waiting for months for RMA replacements / being rejected when APR has inventory of the exhaust?
    7) APR's immediate plan being to clear out these Corsa exhausts in preparation for the outsourced exhausts provided by a certain employee which I introduced to APR.
    8) Distributors are unhappy due to the deception surrounding the exhausts in addition to the new distribution policies which require higher minimum order quantities (offloading these exhausts onto distributors)

    Keep in mind that I have numerous conversations in my possession with APR employees ridiculing the Corsa product which I will not hesitate to release in the event that your official "response" is contrary to the truth.

    How are those superchargers coming along?

    Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by crew219 View Post
    The issues I see with you coming up with an explanation are:

    1) APR knew about this for years and have indicated that Corsa designs these exhausts in conjunction with APR
    2) APR requested a material change from 304L to 400 stainless
    3) APR took those photos and provided them to me
    4) Corsa has dropped APR and the exhaust inventory left in your possession is "APR's problem"
    5) Numerous contradictory statements by both Arin & Sean@APR
    6) How can you explain customers waiting for months for RMA replacements / being rejected when APR has inventory of the exhaust?
    7) APR's immediate plan being to clear out these Corsa exhausts in preparation for the outsourced exhausts provided by a certain employee which I introduced to APR.
    8) Distributors are unhappy due to the deception surrounding the exhausts in addition to the new distribution policies which require higher minimum order quantities (offloading these exhausts onto distributors)

    Keep in mind that I have numerous conversations in my possession with APR employees ridiculing the Corsa product which I will not hesitate to release in the event that your official "response" is contrary to the truth.

    How are those superchargers coming along?

    Dave

    I have 2 questions for you
    1) what did apr do to you to pass you off so much
    2) what's your true goal of all these posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    I have 2 questions for you
    1) what did apr do to you to pass you off so much
    2) what's your true goal of all these posts
    I've been pretty upfront about this on the other forum (I'll respect Anthony's rule about not linking outside Audizine).

    1) It's a multitude of things, obviously totaling my vehicle after dragging it along for almost a year didn't help, but at the end of the day it came down to how they handle and treat issues that arise within and outside of their organization.

    2) The end goal is to expose the truth. When I was provided these pictures, I was under the impression that I was helping APR achieve a better product. Sacrifices were made in order to improve margins and I brought forth a solution which would result in a better product, higher margins for both APR and dealers while reducing costs for the end consumer. That is no longer the case and these products continued to be sold and the program never really launched in the 2 years since I was provided these pictures.

    More info will come.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    I have 2 questions for you
    1) what did apr do to you to pass you off so much
    2) what's your true goal of all these posts
    For (1), He posted the whole back story on AR in the war room.

    TL:DR is APR fucked him over after he sent them his A3 to get power mods done. Then things got personal with Arin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drob23 View Post
    For (1), He posted the whole back story on AR in the war room.

    TL:DR is APR fucked him over after he sent them his A3 to get power mods done. Then things got personal with Arin.
    How my vehicle was handled wasn't the only issue. The Arin situation is separate. He simply won't own up to the photos.

    Here's my response to saxon in case it isn't visible due to the page bump.

    Quote Originally Posted by crew219
    I've been pretty upfront about this on the other forum (I'll respect Anthony's rule about not linking outside Audizine).

    1) It's a multitude of things, obviously totaling my vehicle after dragging it along for almost a year didn't help, but at the end of the day it came down to how they handle and treat issues that arise within and outside of their organization.

    2) The end goal is to expose the truth. When I was provided these pictures, I was under the impression that I was helping APR achieve a better product. Sacrifices were made in order to improve margins and I brought forth a solution which would result in a better product, higher margins for both APR and dealers while reducing costs for the end consumer. That is no longer the case and these products continued to be sold and the program never really launched in the 2 years since I was provided these pictures.

    More info will come.

    Dave

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