"APR - Deception, Coverups, and Lies"

[crew219]

For (1), He posted the whole back story on AR in the war room.

TL:DR is APR fucked him over after he sent them his A3 to get power mods done. Then things got personal with Arin.

How my vehicle was handled wasn't the only issue. The Arin situation is separate. He simply won't own up to the photos.

Here's my response to saxon in case it isn't visible due to the page bump.

I've been pretty upfront about this on the other forum (I'll respect Anthony's rule about not linking outside Audizine).

1) It's a multitude of things, obviously totaling my vehicle after dragging it along for almost a year didn't help, but at the end of the day it came down to how they handle and treat issues that arise within and outside of their organization.

2) The end goal is to expose the truth. When I was provided these pictures, I was under the impression that I was helping APR achieve a better product. Sacrifices were made in order to improve margins and I brought forth a solution which would result in a better product, higher margins for both APR and dealers while reducing costs for the end consumer. That is no longer the case and these products continued to be sold and the program never really launched in the 2 years since I was provided these pictures.

More info will come.

Dave

[UberBrute]

I posted some of Corsa'a marketing a day or two ago. Corsa is explicit in defining RSC as NOT containing fillers OR baffles. Corsa is extremely clear on how RSC works and the design used to achieve the results, and its not what APR has sold.

Also, the APR claims are wayyyyy more than just "acoustic tuning". APR claims "innovative technologies developed in conjunction with NASA." on the website. Total BS here. The issue is that APR advertised RSC, which is defined by Corsa, and not what was sold. Also, RSC was advertised in 4 of the B8 components, not just one single part, so all 4 should include the RSC tech, and none of them do.

To add to this, the video posted by Corsa clearly explains what RSC is and as Jerry1847 indicates, its not what APR is selling.

[mec]

This seems to be escalating faster than APR cares to deal with

http://www.change.org/p/apr-refund-o...share_petition

[Zillon]

This seems to be escalating faster than APR cares to deal with

http://www.change.org/p/apr-refund-o...share_petition

Oh, it's escalating, alright.

[AuditsaF]

Have to love shady business

[srt2evo]

After reading all of this, can any of us REALLY be surprised by any of this after the way the whole stage 2 fiasco was handled (and still being handled)?

[RainJer]

I would just like to point out that the other Forums have way better pics, gifs, and quotable material than AZ... justsaying

I cut every commercial product I purchase in half. How in the blue fuck else would I know if it's made well?

Brilliant LOL

[Akatsuki...]

Subscribed.
I was looking at getting APR Tune next year but I am thinking twice now.

[mauromj]

Sounds like APR is losing a lot of customers over this. They lost my business awhile ago after I heard about some of the warranty claims they would not honor.

[treejs4]

ugh now what exhaust to get with zero drone !?

[AKPS4]

ugh now what exhaust to get with zero drone !?

Who cares about drone. If you are getting an exhaust for sound and paying thousands for it, you may as well get the good stuff. AWE or Armytrix. Period. Honestly, I don't even know what drone is. Never heard it in my life and will never complain about it. You buy am exhaust for the sound. If it's too loud then don't buy an exhaust... Not trying to be a *#+{. But seriously, spend 2k+ and then complain it's too loud? Really? Or "drone"?

Back to topic. I am still laughing at APR and their business practice since this thread started. What a joke.

[tgsweat]

Who cares about drone. If you are getting an exhaust for sound and paying thousands for it, you may as well get the good stuff. AWE or Armytrix. Period. Honestly, I don't even know what drone is. Never heard it in my life and will never complain about it. You buy am exhaust for the sound. If it's too loud then don't buy an exhaust... Not trying to be a *#+{. But seriously, spend 2k+ and then complain it's too loud? Really? Or "drone"?

Back to topic. I am still laughing at APR and their business practice since this thread started. What a joke.

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[cory_can]

Who cares about drone. If you are getting an exhaust for sound and paying thousands for it, you may as well get the good stuff. AWE or Armytrix. Period. Honestly, I don't even know what drone is. Never heard it in my life and will never complain about it. You buy am exhaust for the sound. If it's too loud then don't buy an exhaust... Not trying to be a *#+{. But seriously, spend 2k+ and then complain it's too loud? Really? Or "drone"?

Back to topic. I am still laughing at APR and their business practice since this thread started. What a joke.

If you've never had it, then of course you wouldn't care. Sit in a car that drones at highway speed and you would know what you were talking about and would want to shoot your ears off.

[Zillon]

I would just like to point out that the other Forums have way better pics, gifs, and quotable material than AZ... justsaying

Thanks.

[Arin@APR]

Despite the claims featured in these threads:

• All of the exhausts we sell, with "RSC" in the name, are from Corsa.
• Corsa has confirmed all of the exhaust they supply to APR contain RSC technology.
• All of the exhaust systems work as advertised.

Corsa has asked us to direct you to the following resources for further information:

"Please see the attached link (http://www.corsaperformance.com/Tech...xhaustRsc.aspx) for additional information on CORSA's various RSC Technologies"

"For further questions pertaining to RSC technology please Contact CORSA directly at 1-800-486-0999, or [email protected]"

Thank you

[seanj130]

Cool story bro. Now explain the pictures..

Took your legal team that long to come up with a response? I hope that guy releases the rest of his information.. I am assuming that "car wash boys" don't have to sign NDA's when coming to work for crooks.

Oh, by the way. I am assuming Anthony moved it back for page views...

Hopefully, one of my assumptions is right.

Despite the claims featured in these threads:

• All of the exhausts we sell, with "RSC" in the name, are from Corsa.
• Corsa has confirmed all of the exhaust they supply to APR contain RSC technology.
• All of the exhaust systems work as advertised.

Corsa has asked us to direct you to the following resources for further information:

"Please see the attached link (http://www.corsaperformance.com/Tech...xhaustRsc.aspx) for additional information on CORSA's various RSC Technologies"

"For further questions pertaining to RSC technology please Contact CORSA directly at 1-800-486-0999, or [email protected]"

Thank you

[Amorphic]

Despite the claims featured in these threads:

• All of the exhausts we sell, with "RSC" in the name, are from Corsa.
• Corsa has confirmed all of the exhaust they supply to APR contain RSC technology.
• All of the exhaust systems work as advertised.
  
  

Corsa has asked us to direct you to the following resources for further information:

"Please see the attached link (http://www.corsaperformance.com/Tech...xhaustRsc.aspx) for additional information on CORSA's various RSC Technologies"

"For further questions pertaining to RSC technology please Contact CORSA directly at 1-800-486-0999, or [email protected]"

Thank you

The issue is that the "RSC" tech you have advertised is not the tech that was found in the muffler. Why not just own it and rectify the situation instead of posting belittling responses to the community when we have so much evidence suggesting we were mislead?

[s4bw]

What other parts does APR sell, claim as your own until there is questionable quality, then redirect the customer to the actual manufacturer if they have a complaint? Just wondering? Way to dig deeper. Pathetic

[LINDW4LL]

Lol, APR could not have handled this any worse...

[crew219]

Despite the claims featured in these threads:

• All of the exhausts we sell, with "RSC" in the name, are from Corsa.
• Corsa has confirmed all of the exhaust they supply to APR contain RSC technology.
• All of the exhaust systems work as advertised.

Corsa has asked us to direct you to the following resources for further information:

"Please see the attached link (http://www.corsaperformance.com/Tech...xhaustRsc.aspx) for additional information on CORSA's various RSC Technologies"

"For further questions pertaining to RSC technology please Contact CORSA directly at 1-800-486-0999, or [email protected]"

Thank you

*shakeshead*

No comment on why APR changed the material from 304L to 400 series stainless?

It sounds as if APR wasn't provided the response they wanted from Corsa.

Notice that Corsa doesn't make false representations of their VW/Audi exhausts on their own product sheet.

[oascom]

Hey Arin then you guys should put this photo on your website
As a example of RSC technology used in your exhaust

[Stereodude]

"For further questions pertaining to RSC technology please Contact CORSA directly at 1-800-486-0999, or [email protected]"

Why would anyone contact Corsa with questions about their APR exhaust? They didn't buy a Corsa exhaust from Corsa. They bought an APR branded product from APR. Does APR stand behind their products or not? It seems pretty clear the answer is no.

[AudIan]

Love this thread. Certainly helped me make a decision on whether or not to use anything APR... that being not. Seriously, poorly handled APR.

[cory_can]

;;;()))$$!!&@@@

Arin, are you trying to get off on a technicality and pass the buck? The truth is you and Keith in your marketing (and in attacking the competition) deceived everyone about the technology in your exhausts. You haven't taken ownership for that, apologized or offered restitution. You instead are just content to crush apr's reputation so as to 'get off on a technicality' with your new RSC double speak.

[saxon]

Hey Arin then you guys should put this photo on your website
As a example of RSC technology used in your exhaust

See That little round thing to the left of the middle divider, that's the rsc technology

I'm all for bashing companies but this exhaust bashing is petty and would be equivalent to bitching
that a big Mac doesn't look like the picture on an advertisement

[dirtydub]

Cool story bro. Now explain the pictures..

Took your legal team that long to come up with a response? I hope that guy releases the rest of his information.. I am assuming that "car wash boys" don't have to sign NDA's when coming to work for crooks.

Oh, by the way. I am assuming Anthony moved it back for page views...

Hopefully, one of my assumptions is right.

No kidding!!! It seriously took that long to post up some bullshit like this?!?!? Sorry, but you're dodging all the relative questions...yet again.

Oh and you never answered my original question earlier today. Who have you been in discussion with at Corsa because the folks that I've spoken with at Corsa over the past few days have informed me that there hasn't been any conversation between the two parties. One of the Corsa employees even said, "who the hell is Arin@APR?" LOL

So please, by all means continue to lie to your customer base. Perhaps Colby will give you a job at BurgerFi when this is all said and done :)

[phillips2024]

no wonder Audi TD1's our cars

[dirtydub]

What other parts does APR sell, claim as your own until there is questionable quality, then redirect the customer to the actual manufacturer if they have a complaint? Just wondering? Way to dig deeper. Pathetic

Damn near everything!

Pathetic is certainly the correct word to use when describing this situation and APR customer support.

APR is nothing more than a sinking ship at this point.

[dirtydub]

Don't forget to sign that petition!

[kandrei]

So from that link that Arin posted you can view a catlog of corsa products. Page 3 has this, note the comment about competitors inferior product comparison? Does that not look like some of the photos here?

[crew219]

Despite the claims featured in these threads:

Corsa has asked us to direct you to the following resources for further information:

"Please see the attached link (http://www.corsaperformance.com/Tech...xhaustRsc.aspx) for additional information on CORSA's various RSC Technologies"

"For further questions pertaining to RSC technology please Contact CORSA directly at 1-800-486-0999, or [email protected]"

Thank you

I find it interesting that the link provided has changed from what it looked like yesterday (where everyone was getting the youtube RSC video from). Wayback machine didn't have the link archived but Google cache had a snapshot of it from Nov 7th 2014.

Here's what the page looked like a few days ago.



You can verify this for yourself if you use google chrome by typing in "cache:" before the URL

*shakeshead*

[dirtydub]

I find it interesting that the link provided has changed from what it looked like yesterday (where everyone was getting the youtube RSC video from). Wayback machine didn't have the link archived but Google cache had a snapshot of it from Nov 7th 2014.

Here's what the page looked like a few days ago.



You can verify this for yourself if you use google chrome by typing in "cache:" before the URL

*shakeshead*

Arin must have hacked the site. LOL....wouldn't be the first time I guess.

[Pworld]

no wonder Audi TD1's our cars

Don't know why. But i laughed.

[Spike00513]

See That little round thing to the left of the middle divider, that's the rsc technology

I'm all for bashing companies but this exhaust bashing is petty and would be equivalent to batching that a big Mac doesn't look like the picture on an advertisement

[cory_can]

Lol!!! Winner. Crying here.

[AudIan]

Yeah, I thought that the Corsa page that was linked looked thrown together, all fast rough CAD drawings, strangely like someone has CAD drawn the pictures that have been circulating and inserted them into a web page. Wednesday morning. :)


Love this line
"During the development phase an RSC Technology is chosen that best attains the desired balance of acoustics resulting in hundreds of unique designs that cover our numerous vehicle applications. Rarely are any two Exhaust Systems featuring RSC Technology the same.

[Viru5]

I find it interesting that the link provided has changed from what it looked like yesterday (where everyone was getting the youtube RSC video from). Wayback machine didn't have the link archived but Google cache had a snapshot of it from Nov 7th 2014.

Here's what the page looked like a few days ago.



You can verify this for yourself if you use google chrome by typing in "cache:" before the URL

*shakeshead*

Yeah i caught this too when i looked at there site 2 days ago and today its completely different... Oh APR its all going down hill fast for you guys...

[S4 00 2.7]

Hey Arin then you guys should put this photo on your website
As a example of RSC technology used in your exhaust

Lol

It is so WRONG that Arin is trying to sidestep the issue at hand.

Like someone said above, trying to get out of it on a technicality.

[4RingRook]

APR in this thread:

[mr shickadance]

this is hilarious. APR not even once.