Anyone running a GTX2860R?

**onedumslack** · 10-08-2014 05:17 PM

Just wondering if anyone is running a GTX2860R? Where did you get your tune? Opinions on this turbo? Possibly vs a K04?

I was only able to find one post of somebody with this turbo and it was about fueling issues.

**demonmk2** · 10-08-2014 05:23 PM

You would be happier with the gtx2867r..
You could use any big turbo tune just make sure
the tune is good for 25 to 30 psi range as those turbos work
Better at high boost levels.

**ericpaulyoung** · 10-08-2014 05:26 PM

I ran one close (the 2863), and loved it. Canadian is running a 2863 now, and loving it too. I didn't know they made a GTX in the 2860, but it would probably do ine. The 2863 spools close to a K04 but more up top. The 2867 is also a great turbo! That is what MEC is running.

epy

**onedumslack** · 10-08-2014 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by ericpaulyoung

I ran one close (the 2863), and loved it. Canadian is running a 2863 now, and loving it too. I didn't know they made a GTX in the 2860, but it would probably do ine. The 2863 spools close to a K04 but more up top. The 2867 is also a great turbo! That is what MEC is running.

epy

Is it correct to say that a 2863 should spool quicker than a 2867 and the 2860 should spool quicker than the 2863? I was looking at the gtx2860r because I was looking for quickest spool possible in the 28 series and was thinking the gtx would help on the top end? Does this sound correct? I wanted a K04 but was worried that I wouldn't be happy with it's power output. This car will most likely never see a track so any high speeds would be essentially useless but was looking for great acceleration.

**demonmk2** · 10-08-2014 05:42 PM

Well the gtx2863r has the same compressor map as
A gt2860rs on the low end but can breath a whole lot more up top.
As far as spool ( lag )goes tuning can eliminate some of that and your supporting
Mods would be factors also.

**demonmk2** · 10-08-2014 05:48 PM

You can't really compare a k04 to a gtx series turbo.

**aluthman** · 10-08-2014 06:00 PM

A lot of people underestimate the K04 turbo for our cars. They really are a pretty stout little snail. That said, the GTX 2860 should give you a bit more up top with comparable spool times. It take a little more work and thought to get installed though, as the K04 fits just like a K03 for the most part (depends on which brand you buy).

**onedumslack** · 10-08-2014 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by demonmk2

You can't really compare a k04 to a gtx series turbo.

Can you clarify? I've never been in a car with a gt or gtx series turbo.

**onedumslack** · 10-08-2014 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by aluthman

A lot of people underestimate the K04 turbo for our cars. They really are a pretty stout little snail. That said, the GTX 2860 should give you a bit more up top with comparable spool times. It take a little more work and thought to get installed though, as the K04 fits just like a K03 for the most part (depends on which brand you buy).

I was looking at this one from ATP turbo with .64A/R.
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=AB7

**aluthman** · 10-08-2014 06:14 PM

That's about as plug and play as you are going to find.

**onedumslack** · 10-08-2014 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by aluthman

That's about as plug and play as you are going to find.

Sweet. Thanks. I wanted make sure I wasn't looking at a bad turbo choice for our car since I couldn't really find much info of anyone else using it.

**aluthman** · 10-08-2014 06:28 PM

It's not that it's a bad turbo, it's just that when most people go through that much work and spend that amount of money, they generally go with a bigger turbo. It's the same price to get a GTX 2867 I believe, so most people skip over the smaller choice.

**mec** · 10-08-2014 07:05 PM

Private message "derrek" he lives in arizona and has a k04 car thats pretty quick! I was just in it this weekend.

Otherwise a gtx2867 is an awesome turbo, 2863 is the smallest I would go.

**ericpaulyoung** · 10-08-2014 07:10 PM

I have run both a K04 and a GTX2863R. They are definitely different beasts. I actually very much like the K04. It is a very nice turbo for our cars.

epy

**onedumslack** · 10-09-2014 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by mec

Private message "derrek" he lives in arizona and has a k04 car thats pretty quick! I was just in it this weekend.

Otherwise a gtx2867 is an awesome turbo, 2863 is the smallest I would go.

Why is it the smallest you'd go?

Originally Posted by ericpaulyoung

I have run both a K04 and a GTX2863R. They are definitely different beasts. I actually very much like the K04. It is a very nice turbo for our cars.

epy

Which one did you find to be a more fun daily driver? Do the GTX28xx spool quick enough for the power to be frequently usable as a daily?

Sorry, for so many questions on this I've read so many turbo reviews and garrett's site but I have nothing to compare it to but my k03 since it's the only turbo I've ridden in and was dissapointed by going from Apr stage 1 to 2 and then 2+. I got the car when it was already stage 1 Apr and it was fun at first but now it just feels flat since I got used to it.

**mec** · 10-09-2014 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by onedumslack

Why is it the smallest you'd go?

Which one did you find to be a more fun daily driver? Do the GTX28xx spool quick enough for the power to be frequently usable as a daily?

Sorry, for so many questions on this I've read so many turbo reviews and garrett's site but I have nothing to compare it to but my k03 since it's the only turbo I've ridden in and was dissapointed by going from Apr stage 1 to 2 and then 2+. I got the car when it was already stage 1 Apr and it was fun at first but now it just feels flat since I got used to it.

To me if I'm going to invest hours upon hours of work and tons of money I need a minimum power level that id be happy with, the 2867 did that for me, now I'm looking at bigger turbos, I don't think I would have been happy with something so small as a Gtx2860, needs much more flow.

**onedumslack** · 10-09-2014 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by mec

To me if I'm going to invest hours upon hours of work and tons of money I need a minimum power level that id be happy with, the 2867 did that for me, now I'm looking at bigger turbos, I don't think I would have been happy with something so small as a Gtx2860, needs much more flow.

Allright thanks, I think I need to go read more of Garrett's site to start trying to understand the compressor maps it sounds like.

**seal66** · 10-09-2014 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by onedumslack

Allright thanks, I think I need to go read more of Garrett's site to start trying to understand the compressor maps it sounds like.

Turbo choice is really based on your needs and wants out of the car. Honestly if you want a very quick spooling car look at a k04 or gtx2860r. If you want just a tad more up top but still spool around 3-3500 go with the gtx2863r.

**vce1232000** · 10-09-2014 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by ericpaulyoung

I have run both a K04 and a GTX2863R. They are definitely different beasts. I actually very much like the K04. It is a very nice turbo for our cars.

epy

I have to agree with EPY

. The KO4 isn't going to be your best choice for raw power

. But its a real fun turbo to

. The power starts @ 2k rpm. About 4.5k it starts to taper off

. Well at least mine away

.

Originally Posted by seal66

Turbo choice is really based on your needs and wants out of the car.

This couldn't be any more true

Originally Posted by onedumslack

was dissapointed by going from Apr stage 1 to 2 and then 2+. I got the car when it was already stage 1 Apr and it was fun at first but now it just feels flat since I got used to it.

That's the bad thing about engine mod's

. Your always going to crave more power

....lol. The tuning bug.

**Operator** · 10-09-2014 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by seal66

Turbo choice is really based on your needs and wants out of the car. Honestly if you want a very quick spooling car look at a k04 or gtx2860r. If you want just a tad more up top but still spool around 3-3500 go with the gtx2863r.

THIS!!! There is a reason there are so many options out there. People are looking for different results. But what some have said, and OP you've admitted as much; eventually as a modder, you will crave more. Some do another turbo swap, some get a new car...... But with the right tune, I think a gtx2860, will still put a smile on your face.

**sciblades** · 10-10-2014 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by onedumslack

Just wondering if anyone is running a GTX2860R? Where did you get your tune? Opinions on this turbo? Possibly vs a K04?

I was only able to find one post of somebody with this turbo and it was about fueling issues.

Unitronic would be my choice for a tune with a gtx I would pick the larger of the two the spool times are pretty close.

**LINDW4LL** · 10-10-2014 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by vce1232000

I have to agree with EPY

. The KO4 isn't going to be your best choice for raw power

. But its a real fun turbo to

. The power starts @ 2k rpm. About 4.5k it starts to taper off

. Well at least mine away

I think just about every dyno plot I've looked at for the OEM K04 shows that it makes peak power around 5,500 rpm and then slightly drops off to redline. It's actually a very wide powerband, it just doesn't make huge numbers.

**vce1232000** · 10-10-2014 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by LINDW4LL

I think just about every dyno plot I've looked at for the OEM K04 shows that it makes peak power around 5,500 rpm and then slightly drops off to redline. It's actually a very wide powerband, it just doesn't make huge numbers.

Meeeh. Maybe I'm off by a 1000rpm's. I'm not countin

....lol.... Never said I had a

car....

**derrek** · 10-10-2014 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by onedumslack

Allright thanks, I think I need to go read more of Garrett's site to start trying to understand the compressor maps it sounds like.

IMO GTX28 or bigger, but if you want check out a K04 setup let me know.

**mec** · 10-10-2014 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by derrek

IMO GTX28 or bigger, but if you want check out a K04 setup let me know.

Yes! Minimum 45lbs/min or go home

**vce1232000** · 10-10-2014 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by mec

Yes! Minimum 45lbs/min or go home

Min. 45 lbs

.... whatda boostin a Caterpillar diesel motor

.....lol

**mec** · 10-10-2014 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by vce1232000

Min. 45 lbs

.... whatda boostin a Caterpillar diesel motor

.....lol

45 lbs isn't that big.

**Jake@JHM** · 10-10-2014 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by vce1232000

Min. 45 lbs

.... whatda boostin a Caterpillar diesel motor

.....lol

LOL Not 45PSI.

**mec** · 10-10-2014 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Jake@JHM

LOL Not 45PSI.

He took the important part out "/min"

**onedumslack** · 10-11-2014 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by derrek

IMO GTX28 or bigger, but if you want check out a K04 setup let me know.

Cool, thanks. I may pm you when it gets closer to purchase time.

**jonnybravo** · 10-15-2014 01:23 PM

I'm running the GTX2860r that your asking about. I'm also running the ATP manifold and intercooler. This turbo is killer. I've ran a 13.5 on a dying oem clutch and halfway decent tune(on Maestro) and I suck on the drag strip. Aluthman(Adam) has been helping me out with my tune and I can tell just from the seat of my pants the car is much faster now. Do it.

**Jake@JHM** · 10-15-2014 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by jonnybravo

I'm running the GTX2860r that your asking about. I'm also running the ATP manifold and intercooler. This turbo is killer. I've ran a 13.5 on a dying oem clutch and halfway decent tune(on Maestro) and I suck on the drag strip. Aluthman(Adam) has been helping me out with my tune and I can tell just from the seat of my pants the car is much faster now. Do it.

Post up your time slips!

Also, this will help you out: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo...0t-p-1257.html

**jonnybravo** · 10-15-2014 02:44 PM

Clutch has been fixed. Hopefully I will make it out to Audi night at Sac Raceway. Then we'll see some updated slips.

Originally Posted by Jake@JHM

Post up your time slips!

Also, this will help you out: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo...0t-p-1257.html

**Jake@JHM** · 10-15-2014 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by jonnybravo

Clutch has been fixed. Hopefully I will make it out to Audi night at Sac Raceway. Then we'll see some updated slips.

Post your 13.5 slip though!

**jonnybravo** · 10-15-2014 03:02 PM

Slips are long gone. It was late last year that I ran it...but my I still have my 2nd place trophy from that day! Haha. It was at Sac Raceway too.

**Jake@JHM** · 10-15-2014 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by jonnybravo

Slips are long gone. It was late last year that I ran it...but my I still have my 2nd place trophy from that day! Haha. It was at Sac Raceway too.

Nice! Do you remember your trap?

**chris@fifteen52** · 10-15-2014 03:09 PM

**Jake@JHM** · 10-15-2014 03:09 PM

LOL

**jonnybravo** · 10-15-2014 03:13 PM

105 if I remember right.

Originally Posted by Jake@JHM

Nice! Do you remember your trap?

**Jake@JHM** · 10-15-2014 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by jonnybravo

105 if I remember right.

Not bad! Do you have stock internals?

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