Vag tacho not working.

[Concker]

Hello

Due to major problems with my immobilizer, me and the audi dealer have found out that I need to change the instrument cluster as the problem is most likely found there. (have tried changing all other electronic parts related to immobilizer)

So back to the issue with VAG tacho.

For some reason when I plug in the cable and open the software every button is just grayed out. Tried reinstalling drivers and software. Any one with some experience that could help me with this issue?
I also have VAG commander that does connect but can't seem to get the skc code retrieved.

Thanks

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[JJ.]

have you already found another cluster?

[Concker]

have you already found another cluster?

Nah, I haven't come back to your pm yet jj, have had to much other stuff going on atm. But I'll pm you later :)

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[Concker]

Ok. so there must be some driver issues.
As i get the cannot connec to k-line interface message.

Ive tried about 3 diffrent ones now, any one able to help locate the correct ones for the normal generic ebay cable?

I am guessing my 98 car is immo 2, with immo in the cluster.
my 97 avant should be immo 1 with the older immo box.

However i cannot connect to any of them.
I see now that i get the message: Cannot connect to k-line interface etc etc.

Im pretty sure it must be caused by bad/wrong drivers as my cable did not come with a cd :(
Ive tried 3 or 4 diffrent drivers now without luck..

Any tips on where i can get some good working drivers?
I tried the ftdi webside, downloading both the vcp and d2xx drivers, but none of them even wants to install on my usb - iso hardware under the hardware manager.

Any clues? :)

[k0mpresd]

vagtacho software doesnt work with generic kkl cables unless you flash the cable with the correct ept file using mprog.
having said that, STOP USING CLONES and buy genuine tools.

[Concker]

Kkl, im using an own indipendant cable that is made for vag tacho, i got other cables for my licenced ross tech software.
Aswell i know for a fact ebay cables does work, just brows around and you will see have got them to work, my main issue is that the drivers was not supported with the cable.

And well yes, i do often buy genuine tools, vag com for example, and i would for vag tacho aswell if the software could do more then just get the pin and program keys, 390eur is a little to much for that.

[k0mpresd]

i have a genuine v5 vagtacho. it has paid for itself doing cluster swaps for shops and programming keys, ect.
so you are using a vagtacho clone? they are junk. it is not a driver issue. some of them just do not work. if you google you will see lots of people have problems with them.

do you have a dump from your cluster(s)?

[Concker]

Dump?
im sorry im not sure what you mean by that :)

And yes... i know eBay cables for the most part is junk, but at the time being i just do not afford spending 390eur on a genuine cable after using thousands on dealer bills trying to solve this issue, aswell as being towed like 6 times due to the immobilizer problem.
And i also have not bought the 2. cluster yet, as the dealers wont help me install it since its not the the same i currently got, as i rather want to upgrade to an lcd display.
Meaning i need to do it my self, the physical part of it is easy, just not to sure about the software side of things.
It's just a lucky i was browsing around and found out about vag tacho / commander and that there is this skc.. i was lucky enough to have the original skc on the cluster that is original in the car so i acutally can use it.
But it is no temp. solution, aswell as i have spend houndreds on hours on the car i would like the milage to read correctly on the new cluster, aswell have the skc incase it happends again so i can perform an emergency start..

I hate to see the car towed as its LOW and fragile to me :)

[k0mpresd]

vag commander should read the cluster and will work with a regular kkl cable.
if you can get a read, post the file. your skc can be calculated from dump.

[Mad Cow]

vag commander should read the cluster and will work with a regular kkl cable.
if you can get a read, post the file. your skc can be calculated from dump.

I've had nothing but problems with vag commander, but vag tacho worked the one time I tried just to see if it works. So yea, clone tools are the definition of hit-or-miss. Wouldn't monoscan work too?

[Concker]

vag commander should read the cluster and will work with a regular kkl cable.
if you can get a read, post the file. your skc can be calculated from dump.

Alright i will look into that tommorow then, thanks.
Even if i can get the skc with commander i would still have the issue with milage correction tho, as i have tried this with commander without success.

Monoscan i have never heard of, does this software offer retrival of skc and milage correction?

[k0mpresd]

never tested monoscan on a cluster.
if you can get a read, i can get you skc and set mileage to 0km. this would allow programming via vcds for correct km.

[Concker]

never tested monoscan on a cluster.
if you can get a read, i can get you skc and set mileage to 0km. this would allow programming via vcds for correct km.

alright, i will look into this tommorow :)
Thanks.

[Concker]

never tested monoscan on a cluster.
if you can get a read, i can get you skc and set mileage to 0km. this would allow programming via vcds for correct km.

Hm, if i just go into vag commander i can read the a4 b5 cluster without computer option.
But all i get is like AAAAAAAAAAAA, i save the bin and open it in notepad, also just AAAAAA.
The odometer box says 3564 or something, tho it should read 165,238km to be correct..

Any thing im doing wrong or?

I guess it could be the cluster it self that is fucking up but dno..
Once i recive my new vag tacho cable / drivers and the clustered i bought from JJ i guess i can try to see if i can read out the pin on that cluster.. then again its that cluster i am going to need to pin on.
What i am doing now i just to try to see if i can get the software to work beforehand on my current cluster..

Atleast i have the skc that was included with the car new so i can use it (:
for some reason it wont work when i try to program my keys in vag com either, no error messages or anything =/

[Concker]

Ok, so i got a new exe file for vag tacho and now i get connection with the cable and the car :)

But i have not yet been able to pull out the pin, i seem to get contact on every magneti marinelli option on selec ecu, but just error when trying to read the pin.

Any 1 know what ecu option etc i should use? :)

[Mad Cow]

What motor do you have? I've never heard of Marinelli used on the b5.

[Concker]

What motor do you have? I've never heard of Marinelli used on the b5.

2.4 V6 30V.

Not sure if marinelli is correct ofc, but thats one of the few that actually connects..
the ECU is a bosch tho.. But i think tacho refers ECU to the cluster?

And i though every Audis from this era used VDO?



I tested it on my 97 avant that has the immo box (Not in the cluster)
i got the pin straight away using the Audi immo box option on vag tacho..
Not sure whats wrong.. could be the cluster just being messed up tho..

Just hoping i can get the pin and miles correction to work on the cluster JJ is sending me..
not sure if its the cluster or ecu that wont let me in?

Im leaning towards the cluster bein a bitch..
8D0919860G so looks like a VDO cluster to me.
So im guessing VDO new old or c5..

But yeah.. lets just hope i can connect the to new one that JJ is sending (:

[Mad Cow]

Have you tried all the Bosch options? A bad cluster wouldn't prevent you from reading the ecu as far as I know. Unless it's screwing up the k line.

[Concker]

Well i have tried all the options but the 2 bosch me7xx as it says i need to flash cable etc etc.
Tho from what i have heard Vag tacho connects to the cluster, it just calls it for a ECU? then again ppl say alot of diffrent stuff..
Atleast i should be able to enter true VDO old really.. not sure..

gonna let it cool off for abit now untill i get the new cluster.. for all i know that could work, and i already have the pin on my current cluster anyways :)
So gonna be exiting to see if i can connect to the new cluster as that is what i really need 2 :)

[k0mpresd]

another option, if youre handy with a soldering iron you could transfer the soic8 from your ori cluster to your new cluster.

[Concker]

Yeah well, the point of changing it is because it's bad in that way that it won't keep remembering the same keys :p

So yeah gonna see how it goes once I receive the cluster

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