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    Established Member Two Rings martins's Avatar
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    S4 4.2 V8-engine in A4

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    Hi...

    Does anyone know if it's possible to put the 4.2 V8-engine from the S4 (B6) in an A4 (1.8T Quattro)?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Lakaiguy's Avatar
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    yeah not too long ago a guy posted pics of that motor he bought for 10 grand, and Im pretty sure he was putting it in his B6

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    Junior Member Two Rings Turbosport's Avatar
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    why not trade up for an S4? by the time you procure a motor, and pay labor to get it installed, i can't imagine an S4 would be much more money
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    Active Member Four Rings madrussian's Avatar
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    yes, its possible.

    a great shop that does it is called the audi dealership.

    should cost you about 50k, comes w/ other goodies too!!! ;)

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    Veteran Member Four Rings xonetruthcrewx's Avatar
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    Yeah, unless you get a really good deal on the S4 motor. tranny, ecu and all that shit i would say just trade in for an S4. There are so many more things to an S4 than just the motor.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Mark's Avatar
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    not worth it . . .
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    Veteran Member Four Rings F16HTON's Avatar
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    Kinda pointless...you can make more power and torque with a 1.8t.

    The 10-12 grand it would cost you could build an incredible 1.8t.

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    Established Member Two Rings martins's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Turbosport
    why not trade up for an S4? by the time you procure a motor, and pay labor to get it installed, i can't imagine an S4 would be much more money
    A new S4 here in Denmark costs about $ 215.000,- (we have alomst 200% tax on cars )

    If the engine fits in my car we'll install it ourself.

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    Established Member Two Rings martins's Avatar
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    Originally posted by 400HPA4
    Kinda pointless...you can make more power and torque with a 1.8t.

    The 10-12 grand it would cost you could build an incredible 1.8t.
    I have 300bhp in my 1.8T now (150bhp standard) . I keep upgrading stuff that breakes all the time.

    I can get a allmost new (3.700 km) s4 engine with everything needed for $7.000,-

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    Veteran Member Four Rings pandaxprss's Avatar
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    very point less if u want to do that i say sell your A4 and buy a S4

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    Registered Member Two Rings S4midable's Avatar
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    Originally posted by pandaxprss
    very point less if u want to do that i say sell your A4 and buy a S4

    read.

    Denmark has almost 200% tax on cars.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings duffS4's Avatar
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    how about dropping a 2.7t in there?
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    how about dropping a porsche GT3 engine in there?

    that's my ulitimate plan.
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    i'd take a gt2 engine over the gt3.

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    Established Member Two Rings martins's Avatar
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    Originally posted by duffS4
    how about dropping a 2.7t in there?
    I like the V8 more...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Itchy Foot's Avatar
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    how about the new 2.0T?

    I would swap in the B5 S4 engine...
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    Veteran Member Four Rings nadroj81's Avatar
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    i bet it could be done. prolly just have to replace all the electronics as well. new ecu/dash cluster ect. Might need the help of a friendly audi dealer to reset/code some stuff? I am not sure.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings giago's Avatar
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    I would get a 2.7TT also.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings HoRnYTuRbO's Avatar
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    bore and stroke the v8 and add twin turbos

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    Veteran Member Four Rings F16HTON's Avatar
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    I'm pretty sure you can make mad power on the 4.2 with Schrick cams, programming, and a free flowing exhaust. It is a shame the car weighs 3700 pounds.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings DLSJ5's Avatar
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    Originally posted by 400HPA4
    I'm pretty sure you can make mad power on the 4.2 with Schrick cams, programming, and a free flowing exhaust. It is a shame the car weighs 3700 pounds.
    I concur, well said, I think it's a waste of time and $ to transplant. I think the S4 actually weighs more like 3900 lbs.?

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    UHH.
    All Quattro's weigh too much ..

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    Veteran Member Four Rings DLSJ5's Avatar
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    Originally posted by AudiGuy666
    UHH.
    All Quattro's weigh too much ..
    Actually the new RS4 weighs around 3600, not too shabby.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings F16HTON's Avatar
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    Registered Member Four Rings |Sandman|'s Avatar
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    I´d go with a 2.7TT also, thats my dream..
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    Registered Member Three Rings Speedyejl's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Lakaiguy
    yeah not too long ago a guy posted pics of that motor he bought for 10 grand, and Im pretty sure he was putting it in his B6

    That was me, didn't mean to mislead anyone into thinking I was that ambitious!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Mark's Avatar
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    I'd go with a 5 cylinder 2.2T and a UrS4 or Rs2 6 speed tranny if I were to do an engine swap.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings F16HTON's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Mark
    I'd go with a 5 cylinder 2.2T and a UrS4 or Rs2 6 speed tranny if I were to do an engine swap.
    Built S1 motor and a RS2 six speed

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    Veteran Member Four Rings chrissurfr's Avatar
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    drop the carrera gt v-10 in there:) 650 hp anyone?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings tonbon's Avatar
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    just buy an s4
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    Originally posted by Mark
    I'd go with a 5 cylinder 2.2T and a UrS4 or Rs2 6 speed tranny if I were to do an engine swap.
    Good man! the 2.2T engine rocks...this car's got about 400 crank HP:

    and it has a modified RS2 6-speed...good deal!
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    Originally posted by Mark
    I'd go with a 5 cylinder 2.2T and a UrS4 or Rs2 6 speed tranny if I were to do an engine swap.
    or how about this one!?

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    Originally posted by tonbon
    just buy an s4
    he already said that theres nearly 200% tax on cars in denmark, it would be exponentially cheaper to do an engine swap in his case, and i know they can do it because they've done quite a bit of crazy stuff to his car in the past from what i remember.
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    Registered Member Three Rings
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    man im not sure about engine swap... that shit would be so complicated with the electronics, and not to mention all the BS with quattro and shit, the car would never drive the way it's supposed to.

    heres what you do

    give eip tuning a call.... buy this

    http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/18t20vcompleteengines.html

    then have them build you the 2.1 motor with a gt2871r or gt3071r, run some probably 580cc injectors or so, and have somebody make custom software for it, giac, revo, etc. and you will be at a minimum of 400 wheel horsepower... and it wouldnt be all laggy as hell like if you just slapped a huge turbo on the 1.8 liter... and the pricetag... probably a total of 10grand....

    to swap the S4 motor in would cost atleast 15k because its gonna be a lot more than just the motor you need to swap... plus the S4 motor would not have near as much horsepower...

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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    does the s4 have a bigger rear diff , tranny, torsen, half-shafts and driveshaft than us?
    2022 S4

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    Established Member Two Rings martins's Avatar
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    Well guys... I bought the stuff... now we only have to do the swap!

    I need some S4 (B6) brakes... can anybody help me?





    Last edited by martins; 08-27-2005 at 12:09 PM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings tonbon's Avatar
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    holy crap you did it! your crazy and i love you for it!
    05' Quattro 6spd USP

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    Veteran Member Four Rings gohan's Avatar
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    Martins is old skool, he can do anything.
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    Registered Member Two Rings Bronze's Avatar
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    Awesome. Congrats for having the "palle" to do it and ignore the comments on this thread. Let us know how things go. Do you have a target date for completion, other than as soon as possible?
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