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    iPhone 5 Setup in my B8.5 S4

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    Because it came up in another thread, I figured I will post my iPhone 5 mount in its own thread as well so it can be easily linked back to it later since the topic comes up every once in a while. This setup has been built through a lot of trial and error to find the right combination of cables and adapters. I have used it in my B8.5 S4 for over a year, and earlier versions in my B8 S4 and B8 A4 Avant. If you have questions, they might already be answered here, but feel free to ask. This setup is specific to the iPhone 5/5S, but simple adjustments can be made with items like the cradle or cabling to adapt it to your particular device.

    My mount is a PanaVise 75102-109. Also on Amazon: http://is.gd/HWNaBF



    My cradle is a ProClip 514433, "Padded Holder with Tilt Swivel for Cable Attachment for Apple iPhone 5." I use this cradle because it allows me to keep the cable always connected in the dock so all I have to do is drop my iPhone in and go.



    I'm using this iTeck female-to-male 30-pin extension cable plugged into the AMI port in the glovebox for constant power and hardwired audio:


    That extension cable plugs into an Apple 30-pin to Lightning adapter cable:


    Two important things to note:
    • Not all iPhone/iPod extension cables are equal. Some will only charge an iOS device, but not send audio. After some trial and error, I found that the iTeck cable does both.
    • The Lightning adapter cable and the standard Lightning cable that comes with the iPhone 5 have slightly different Lightning plugs (seen below), and ProClip makes specific cradles for each.

    Standard USB-to-Lightning cable on the left; 30-pin to Lightning adapter cable on the right.


    The cable routing goes:

    AMI port --> OE Audi 30-pin iPod adapter --> iTeck 30-pin to 30-pin extension cable --> Apple 30-pin to Lightning adapter (the long one, not the little plastic adapter) --> ProClip mount*.
    *That mount is specifically for the Apple adapter I'm using. If you use a different cable or have a different phone, you will need a different ProClip mount, obviously.

    Currently, the extension cable runs along the back of the glovebox and out the back left corner of the glovebox door. From there it goes inside the center stack, and then exits next to the climate controls. If you have a set of radio removal tools, it's very easy to get into the center stack to route the cable. The cable is only visible for about 4 inches, and since its black, it blends in well. You can't see the cable where it exits the glovebox because it's so far back. I may someday route the cable behind the glovebox if I'm feeling ambitious, but it's very low on my list.

    This setup works perfectly. I plastidipped the cable of the Apple adapter black so it doesn't stand out in my interior. You want to use the real Apple cable because the cheap adapters don't work. I can add a pic later if anyone's interested. This is with an iPhone 5 running iOS 6 and now iOS 7. No issues with either OS. Bluetooth call audio still works great as well.

    This is the PanaVise mount for the B8: http://www.panavise.com/pages_addons...artn=75102-109

    It comes in two pieces.

    One you attach to the car behind/next to the center vents:


    The first piece is mounted in the visible screw hole behind the center vent, which you can see here:


    And the other piece screws onto the first piece:


    The final mount looks like this when installed before attaching the ProClip cradle:


    Here is the finished mount:





    When I get into my car, I drop my iPhone into the mount and go. This particular ProClip is designed for iPhones without a case, but you can get a ProClip that is compatible with cases. I prefer not to use a case, so this is perfect for me. I went through a few different combinations of cables and adapters before this one. I've been using it in my current S4 for over a year now and have had no issues.

    A couple questions I've gotten about this setup:

    Q: Why do you use the 30-pin to Lightning adapter if you have an iPhone 5?
    A: Because I originally put this setup together when I had an iPhone 4 with the 30-pin connector. Since I knew it worked, I didn't want to change too much. Using the Audi 30-pin AMI connector also lets the car know that it's an iOS device connected to it.

    Q: What if I use Audi's USB adapter in the AMI port and a standard Apple (or otherwise Apple-certified) Lightning cable and no 30-pin adapter?
    A: That may work to charge the phone, but I don't believe that the MMI will recognize the device as an iOS device. This would probably still work since you could use bluetooth for streaming audio. This would require a different ProClip mount, since the one I use is specifically for the adapter I have.

    • The longest Apple-certified Lightning cable that I am aware of is the 6-foot Amazon Basics Lightning cable. I have a couple of these at home and they work great. If you try this (or any cable) with the Audi USB adapter in the AMI port, please let me know your results.
    • There is a new Audi Lightning adapter for the AMI port, but as far as I know, there are no Lightning extension cables yet.

    Q: Does the phone go right onto the charger pretty well or do you have to position it?
    A: The great thing about the ProClip cradle is that they are designed specifically for the phone you have. The iPhone 5 slides into the grooves on the ProClip, which places it perfectly on top of the connector every time. This mount would also for the iPhone 5S since it has the same form factor as the 5. It probably would not work for the iPhone 5C because the 5C is slightly thicker, but I do not have one to test it with. It may work but could be a bit snug. When I get a new phone, I will upgrade the cradle accordingly.

    Any other questions, feel free to ask.
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    Could be a good idea to put a thread together with different setups....

    My semi-hard wired setup…. Since I'm constantly on the look for work emails, I needed a spot to mount the phone in front of my face so I don't have to take my eyes off the road every time an email popps. I also use my phone for Escort Live! and Waze, so that's another reason, I needed it at eye-level.

    I bought a long lightening cable, plugged it to the lighter socket in the armrest, routed it under the console, under the steering wheel bottom cover, through the fuse box, and up the A-pillar to finish off by my cradle. For a cradle, I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1








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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannydyn View Post
    Could be a good idea to put a thread together with different setups....
    Excellent idea.

    How long is the Lightning cable you have? Link?
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    can you rename the thread to "smartphone" setup. i have a samsung S4.

    here's my setup. I don't have Nav, therefore no bluetooth streaming, so the cable there connects into the audi interface in the glovebox. The suction cup mount is perfect to fit in the ledge in front of the screen there. only the very right of the screen is blocked. nothing that bothers me.


    i used this bracketron bracket. The arm is flexible so i just bent it a bit to fit in front of the hazard light button.

    i have the cable running down the center console, held by little hooks on self adhesive pads


    i drilled a hole under the glovebox and fished the cable through. i needed a 3.5mm extension cable from the audi interface cable. i had one laying around that was 20' long, so hence the need to coil it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by achilleas101 View Post
    can you rename the thread to "smartphone" setup. i have a samsung S4.
    I can't edit the thread title, but if a mod wants to, that's fine with me. I titled it as my iPhone 5 setup so that it would come up for people searching, but if more people want to post their setups, I'm totally fine with it becoming a compendium thread for various solutions.
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    OP - did you drill a hole in the glovebox? Can you take a photo of where the cable passes through the glovebox to the center dash? TIA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahc View Post
    OP - did you drill a hole in the glovebox? Can you take a photo of where the cable passes through the glovebox to the center dash? TIA!
    No, it runs out of the rear corner of the door and right into the back of the center stack.

    Quote Originally Posted by dropshadow View Post
    Currently, the extension cable runs along the back of the glovebox and out the back left corner of the glovebox door.
    I may pull the glovebox out someday and route the cable behind it, but that's pretty low on my priorities. Running the cable this way does not impede opening the glovebox at all, and you can't see the cable if you stuff it down all the way. It doesn't bother me, but I don't reach into my glovebox very often.
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    Great write up. I just bought the Lightning to 30-pin adapter from the Apple store. I have the OE AMI (30 pin) adapter in the glove box. However, when I connect my iPhone 5s, it says "accessory" not supported on the phone and MMI says "No device connected". It does charge, but no MMI connectivity. Car is a B8. What am I missing? OP, didn't you say you tried this in both B8 S4 and A4? Does the B8 MMI not support iPhone 5s?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JJDubya View Post
    Great write up. I just bought the Lightning to 30-pin adapter from the Apple store. I have the OE AMI (30 pin) adapter in the glove box. However, when I connect my iPhone 5s, it says "accessory" not supported on the phone and MMI says "No device connected". It does charge, but no MMI connectivity. Car is a B8. What am I missing? OP, didn't you say you tried this in both B8 S4 and A4? Does the B8 MMI not support iPhone 5s?
    First off, the B8 doesn't have native bluetooth audio streaming, so you'll need a different solution for that. A lot of B8 folks are using the ViseeO Tune2Air adapter for audio streaming.

    I used a very similar setup in my B8 S4, but I had an iPhone 4 with the 30-pin connector at the time and didn't have any issues with it. I added the Lightning adapter in my B8 A4 Avant when I got my iPhone 5. I don't have an iPhone 5s to test with, but it should work the same way.

    When you plug your phone in, what setting are you on in the MMI? You will need to change your source to iPod if you haven't. Do you have navigation in your car?
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    Understood about Bluetooth. I have nav in the car. I would expect 5 and 5s to work identically, so agree if your B8 Avant worked with the 5, the B8 S4 should work with the 5s.

    When I plug in, I hit "Media" on the console then "Source" via the top right MMI button. That's where it says "AMI No device connected".


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    I remembered I had an ancient iPod in the house. I plug that in (without the Lightning adapter of course) and it shows right up on the MMI. Its definitely something with the adapter or iOS 7 on the 5s?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JJDubya View Post
    I remembered I had an ancient iPod in the house. I plug that in (without the Lightning adapter of course) and it shows right up on the MMI. Its definitely something with the adapter or iOS 7 on the 5s?


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    It does sound like an iPhone issue. I guess I'd make sure the phone is up to date on iOS. If you don't have any music in the library on your phone, that can cause the MMI to get confused too. Anybody else with an iPhone 5 or 5s that you can try in your car to see if it works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropshadow View Post
    It does sound like an iPhone issue. I guess I'd make sure the phone is up to date on iOS. If you don't have any music in the library on your phone, that can cause the MMI to get confused too. Anybody else with an iPhone 5 or 5s that you can try in your car to see if it works?
    I'm wondering if the problem is actually the fact that the phone is up-to-date (7.1 presently). I have a feeling one of the recent iOS updates broke functionality.

    Can anyone else confirm they are on the latest version of iOS and using their iPhone 5s with the pre-facelift MMI (B8) w/ nav using a 30-pin to lightning adapter or cable?

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    Bumping this because of a planned update:

    ProClip has announced new cradles for the iPhone 6 & 6 Plus:

    iPhone 6 without a case:
    http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hold...ut-a-case.cmsv

    iPhone 6 with a case:
    http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hold...th-a-case.cmsv

    iPhone 6 Plus without a case:
    http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hold...ut-a-case.cmsv

    iPhone 6 Plus with a case:
    http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hold...th-a-case.cmsv

    The cool thing about these is that now you can order them with a hardwire power cord, making install a breeze. I'll probably go the route of an iPhone 6 with case cradle with a hardwire cord. I don't even have a new phone yet, but I'll update this thread eventually once I've upgraded and installed a new mount.
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    Folks - Can someone tell me, is there enough room behind these panels to run the cable down the side behind the face place of CD player/SD card player, climate controls and then out the back of the center stack without too much of an issue???? IF so, how??? Do these faceplates just pull off/out with trim/pry tools? Or, even better, do you think a small enough cable can be pushed into the gap with a pry/trim tool without removing anything except the climate control in order to get the cable out the back of the center stack????

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    Quote Originally Posted by the4siswickid View Post
    Folks - Can someone tell me, is there enough room behind these panels to run the cable down the side behind the face place of CD player/SD card player, climate controls and then out the back of the center stack without too much of an issue???? IF so, how??? Do these faceplates just pull off/out with trim/pry tools? Or, even better, do you think a small enough cable can be pushed into the gap with a pry/trim tool without removing anything except the climate control in order to get the cable out the back of the center stack????
    You'll want a set of Audi radio keys to remove the radio. With that out, it's very easy. I wouldn't try to cram a cable down the side as it's rather tight.

    You can also remove the vents, as shown above, by removing the dash trim piece. Just take your time and don't rush and you should be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropshadow View Post
    You'll want a set of Audi radio keys to remove the radio. With that out, it's very easy. I wouldn't try to cram a cable down the side as it's rather tight.

    You can also remove the vents, as shown above, by removing the dash trim piece. Just take your time and don't rush and you should be fine.
    The mount that I am going to use actually utilizes the CD slot and it's a hardwire mount. I just need to route the cable behind the stack and don't want to pull apart a bunch of the items on the stack to do it. If I just remove the radio, can I get the cable out the back of the stack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the4siswickid View Post
    The mount that I am going to use actually utilizes the CD slot and it's a hardwire mount. I just need to route the cable behind the stack and don't want to pull apart a bunch of the items on the stack to do it. If I just remove the radio, can I get the cable out the back of the stack?
    Yes, I ran mine that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropshadow View Post
    Yes, I ran mine that way.
    Did you get any rattles with the cable hitting other cables, etc., or did you wrap the cable in felt???? Thx man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the4siswickid View Post
    Did you get any rattles with the cable hitting other cables, etc., or did you wrap the cable in felt???? Thx man.
    No on both counts, but I did wrap up the excess cable into a bundle before stuffing it inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropshadow View Post
    No on both counts, but I did wrap up the excess cable into a bundle before stuffing it inside.
    Awesome, thanks brutha!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropshadow View Post
    Bumping this because of a planned update:

    ProClip has announced new cradles for the iPhone 6 & 6 Plus:

    iPhone 6 without a case:
    http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hold...ut-a-case.cmsv

    iPhone 6 with a case:
    http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hold...th-a-case.cmsv

    iPhone 6 Plus without a case:
    http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hold...ut-a-case.cmsv

    iPhone 6 Plus with a case:
    http://www.proclipusa.com/phone-hold...th-a-case.cmsv

    The cool thing about these is that now you can order them with a hardwire power cord, making install a breeze. I'll probably go the route of an iPhone 6 plus case cradle with a hardwire cord. I don't even have a new phone yet, but I'll update this thread eventually once I've upgraded and installed a new mount.
    Thanks for the information, I'll likely go this route at some-point as well! Do keep us posted.
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    iPhone 5 Setup in my B8.5 S4

    I finally got around to ordering a new ProClip mount for my phone. I was tired of using a vent clip holder and the cigarette lighter for power, and this is a much more elegant solution. I got the ProClip 527666, "Apple iPhone 6 With A Case Adjustable Charging Holder with Tilt Swivel for Hard Wired Installation for Small to Medium Cases." The iPhone drops right in and onto the Lightning plug. I use a pretty slim Spigen case on my phone, and it works perfectly with this cradle. I'm still using the same PanaVise mount mentioned in the first post in this thread.




    No more overcomplicated cabling needed, since my B8.5 streams over bluetooth, so I don't have to run to the AMI port in the glovebox anymore. The cable goes from the cradle, into the center stack next to the CD player (which is the only part I had to remove from the dash to install it), and behind the glovebox to the passenger fuse block. Install was a breeze once I figured out which fuse to use, and once I realized that I didn't have to pull the whole glovebox out to run the wire, thanks to this tool, which I have no idea what its official name is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropshadow View Post
    Install was a breeze once I figured out which fuse to use, and once I realized that I didn't have to pull the whole glovebox out to run the wire, thanks to this tool, which I have no idea what its official name is.

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    Edit: Just reading again and it feels like bad form for me to post a pic of my setup in your setup thread lol. Will make a new one.

    Very nice setup you have here. I had a buddy with a 2001 Mustang Cobra that did a similar setup. Yours looks clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cchoi83 View Post
    Cable fishing retractable claw thingamajiggy.
    That sounds right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropshadow View Post
    That sounds right.


    Btw, this is off topic but I just wanted to say that your previous wheel setup with A8 wheels was really impressive. I was sad to see that they had gone to a new owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cchoi83 View Post


    Btw, this is off topic but I just wanted to say that your previous wheel setup with A8 wheels was really impressive. I was sad to see that they had gone to a new owner.
    Ha, thanks. I liked them too, but I have a very short attention span when it comes to wheels. The S4 is now gone too. That particular set of wheels sold to a guy in California, but now they're back in Minnesota on a friend's C5 allroad.
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    So the PanaVise 75102-109 will work for the 2015 Allroad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djnuge View Post
    So the PanaVise 75102-109 will work for the 2015 Allroad?
    Yes. The hard points haven't changed.
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    Has anyone tried the pro clip dash mount? It looks very similar to the panavise and apparently it just clips into the seam where the panavise requires removing panels and screwing in. I could see the panavise being more sturdy and slightly more clean, but seems easier to install.


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    Hey everyone,

    Just wanted to would share my recent iPhone dock install. Thought it might help someone else looking for options. I was looking for a solution that would allow me to charge my phone, as well as have quick and easy access. The proclip seemed to be the best solution I have come across online. I was originally going to try to hardwire the mount, but decided to keep in relatively simple.





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    ^ move it to the right vent so you can still get your air.
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    Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about that at first but decided to keep it on this vent because it puts my phone in perfect hands reach.

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    I can reach mine just fine, and I'm pretty vertically challenged.




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    Wow, your setup really does look a lot cleaner also. Good points everyone! I'm purchasing the ProClip Angled Mount right now lol. Now if only the bluetooth audio and navigation loaded faster when you turn on your car. It literally takes a couple of minutes for both my navigation and bluetooth to start working. My 2011 BMW 335is worked instantly and I just picked up a 2016 S4. I really do love the car but just it's just one of those things that I don't understand.

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