Missing the first service by 4000 miles.. good ? no problem ? bad ?

[athlon64x2]

Alright .. we tried to do a deal yesterday but since his car is leased Audi FS has to handover the title to him and then he needs to clear it of any leins and he will then have to pay taxes (which is another 4200 bucks) and only then can we transfer the title over to me .. so basically it fell off ..

Anyways I am looking for an Audi S4 and here is my ad :

Interested in buying a 2012/2013 Audi S4 with low miles with possibly the following options :

Color Preference - Monsoon Grey or Red or Ice Silver or Black(in that order)

Less than 25k(2012) or 15K(2013) miles on the car.
Audi MMI Navigation Plus Package
Sport Differential
Audi Advanced Key
Bang & Olufsen Sound System
Carbon Atlas Dash Inlays
Black optics alloys(preferable but not necessary )
Audi care

Let me know if you have one to sell. I am Phoenix area so I can try to meet in 400-500 miles radius.

Thanks

[whts4]

The car is running synthetic oil so no issue with 9k mile btw oil changes, although I actually do mine every 5k. Exhaust alone "should not" cause a warranty problem. ECU or cold air intake, the likelihood is much higher!!!

Recommend having a pre purchase inspection (PPI) at your local Audi dealer BEFORE you buy it. Cost is usually less than $150 but can catch things that you wouldn't.

[boomtime]

I think it seems a little scary. Who would seem eager to drive 400 miles to sell a car?
We really need more info like, MY, trim, miles....and how many figures are in the equation.
What about the rest of his maintenance service records? It could already be flagged TD1.

[athlon64x2]

I think it seems a little scary. Who would seem eager to drive 400 miles to sell a car?
We really need more info like, MY, trim, miles....and how many figures are in the equation.
What about the rest of his maintenance service records? It could already be flagged TD1.

Car 2013 Audi S4
Miles 13000

Manual transmission
Audi MMI Navigation Plus Package
Sport Differential
Audi Advanced Key
Bang & Olufsen Sound System
Carbon Atlas Dash Inlays
Audi care till 55k

If the car is flagged then it should show up in the PPI. I am planning to take to an Audi dealer close by before doing the deal. I have a good relationship with a fella over at the dealership and he will help me out with the service.

His car is leased model and he just doesnt want to use it anymore and invest the money on his house purchase. So thats why he said he is eager to sell it off.

The car is running synthetic oil so no issue with 9k mile btw oil changes, although I actually do mine every 5k. Exhaust alone "should not" cause a warranty problem. ECU or cold air intake, the likelihood is much higher!!!

Recommend having a pre purchase inspection (PPI) at your local Audi dealer BEFORE you buy it. Cost is usually less than $150 but can catch things that you wouldn't.

Yep planning to do that.

[superswiss]

If the price is right, why not. I wouldn't be too worried about the missed service. The risk is all his, since he's gonna have to buy the car first and get the title from Audi FS, before he can sell it to you and as long as you get the PPI done you should be good.

[seanj130]

nah. oil is oil. Mobil 1 ran on the same filter and oil for 1/2 million miles.. NBD. Just change your oil, drive it carefully, and swap some belts when they get old and you will have one fine car...

[RickFLS4]

5K mile service is free and also includes the only free tire rotation you get. Kinda odd to wait for that service IMO and then sell it shortly thereafter. Also a little odd to me to get rid of the car to buy a house so soon after getting it (and spending money on aftermarket exhaust) but I guess people do things without thinking ahead all the time.

I agree with earlier post about PPI. Great if it checks out but if anything shows up I'd turn it down. Also, I assume pricing is good enough vs. new and CPO to make private party deal worthwhile? I would expect at least a few thousand less than a comparable CPO car.

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[afig367]

As others have said, I don't think the 4,000 extra miles is a big deal on full synthetic, but get the PPI. To save everyone some time, though, get the VIN, call your Audi dealership and have them run it to make sure it's not TD1.

I also sold my leased S4 (with AWE exhaust) in order to save more for a house as well, so the guy's not necessarily blowing smoke and trying to dump a shady vehicle. Mine was in pristine condition with 8,600 miles. I got no $$ on the exhaust, so somebody got a sweet deal.

[athlon64x2]

5K mile service is free and also includes the only free tire rotation you get. Kinda odd to wait for that service IMO and then sell it shortly thereafter. Also a little odd to me to get rid of the car to buy a house so soon after getting it (and spending money on aftermarket exhaust) but I guess people do things without thinking ahead all the time.

I agree with earlier post about PPI. Great if it checks out but if anything shows up I'd turn it down. Also, I assume pricing is good enough vs. new and CPO to make private party deal worthwhile? I would expect at least a few thousand less than a comparable CPO car.

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As others have said, I don't think the 4,000 extra miles is a big deal on full synthetic, but get the PPI. To save everyone some time, though, get the VIN, call your Audi dealership and have them run it to make sure it's not TD1.

I also sold my leased S4 (with AWE exhaust) in order to save more for a house as well, so the guy's not necessarily blowing smoke and trying to dump a shady vehicle. Mine was in pristine condition with 8,600 miles. I got no $$ on the exhaust, so somebody got a sweet deal.

Thanks.. I have been in contact with the dealer and will deffo get it PPIed. Good to know the synthetic oil can hold for longer miles .. Will also talk to him about the VIN number ..

What would be a fair price on this one ? I think 43- 44k is fair enough .. He is asking for more than though .. Car was bought last June ..

[afig367]

Thanks.. I have been in contact with the dealer and will deffo get it PPIed. Good to know the synthetic oil can hold for longer miles .. Will also talk to him about the VIN number ..

What would be a fair price on this one ? I think 43- 44k is fair enough .. He is asking for more than though .. Car was bought last June ..

I sold my '13, with 8,600 miles, to a non-Audi dealer for $44k. They didn't bother to check that it had an aftermarket exhaust and I didn't mention it.

Specs were:

- DSG
- Sport Diff
- 18" wheels
- All the other typical stuff for that MY (advanced key, MMI, etc.)

Since the one you're looking at has more miles and the MT (both = you pay less money), but it's a private sale (= seller can expect more money), I'd say $43-44k is fair all things being equal.

He definitely got one of the last '13s if he purchased last June b/c the '14s were rolling out then. But the fact that it's only 9 months old doesn't matter. Its 13,000 miles do.

[dubsquared]

I think it seems a little scary. Who would seem eager to drive 400 miles to sell a car?
...

Yeah that seems suspicious

[athlon64x2]

I sold my '13, with 8,600 miles, to a non-Audi dealer for $44k. They didn't bother to check that it had an aftermarket exhaust and I didn't mention it.

Specs were:

- DSG
- Sport Diff
- 18" wheels
- All the other typical stuff for that MY (advanced key, MMI, etc.)

Since the one you're looking at has more miles and the MT (both = you pay less money), but it's a private sale (= seller can expect more money), I'd say $43-44k is fair all things being equal.

He definitely got one of the last '13s if he purchased last June b/c the '14s were rolling out then. But the fact that it's only 9 months old doesn't matter. Its 13,000 miles do.

Yep.. lets see if we can do the deal ..

Yeah that seems suspicious

well he said he would like to do the deal asap .. and being 400 miles away .. we werent able to find a time to meet up due to commitments .. he had a few friends who were ready for the trip hence he offered me the idea ..

[expelled]

Let me jump in here as the potential seller in this situation to clear a few things up for those who are skeptical about this deal:

-I'm selling the car mainly because the monthly lease payment + insurance + gas is well over $1k and I really don't drive it anymore after moving in with my girlfriend, so, I'd like to save that $1k a month to put towards a house.

-the 4k miles over the 5k service was definitely my bad. I work a lot and used to drive around to meetings every day. I was at about 5100 miles or 5200 miles and trying to find a time to get it into the dealer when I had to go to Las Vegas for some work and then was to drive to San Francisco from there for a wedding. I was worried about it and called Audi.. they assured me I would be ok. Everything went great and when I got back I had a few days of meetings before I could get it into the dealer. So, yes, it was my bad but I was super busy and it didn't harm the car at all.

-What the potential buyer isn't mentioning here is how bad he wants to get a car. He was willing to come last weekend but I was busy.. he said he could come next weekend but didn't want to wait until then. I told him that I can take a day off and drive to him if he wants because I enjoy traveling and road trips. He was happy at first but then felt as if I had ulterior motives like I may be shady or something.

I've happily stated multiple times that I'm down to take it to a dealership for a PPI or wherever he'd like and, in the end, the only one losing out on the deal is me if I drive all the way to him if I knew there was something wrong that Audi will find... right?

I was asking $47k for the car.. our initial conversation had him offering $45k. I told him it was too low.. then after thinking about it, I decided that if he could come that weekend, I would do it for $45k (which is less than I owe on the car btw).

On Friday, he asked me to go to $44k and I stated I wouldn't be doing that.. he said ok, $45k is good.

Today, he calls and says that based on websites like Edmunds etc, he can only give me $44k. I told him that if he could get a car with all the options he wanted (like mine), for $44k, that he would've done it already. As we all know, market value changes daily. When pricing my car, I took the temperature of the REAL market by researching what was out there and pricing mine accordingly.

You've all been on both sides of this I'm sure. I'm just trying to walk away from this car so I can start saving that money. $45k is a good price in Southern California for a manual (afig367, manuals are so hard to find, they often sell for more in the private market) with my options in this condition.

I'm an honest man just trying to make a deal happen. 400 miles seems like nothing to me in order to help both of us out. If that makes me shady or a bad guy then that makes me bummed about what has happened in this community.

-AJ

[IanCH]

Was that a gunshot? nope, just a huge backfire....

[afig367]

Let me jump in here as the potential seller in this situation to clear a few things up for those who are skeptical about this deal:

-I'm selling the car mainly because the monthly lease payment + insurance + gas is well over $1k and I really don't drive it anymore after moving in with my girlfriend, so, I'd like to save that $1k a month to put towards a house.

-the 4k miles over the 5k service was definitely my bad. I work a lot and used to drive around to meetings every day. I was at about 5100 miles or 5200 miles and trying to find a time to get it into the dealer when I had to go to Las Vegas for some work and then was to drive to San Francisco from there for a wedding. I was worried about it and called Audi.. they assured me I would be ok. Everything went great and when I got back I had a few days of meetings before I could get it into the dealer. So, yes, it was my bad but I was super busy and it didn't harm the car at all.

-What the potential buyer isn't mentioning here is how bad he wants to get a car. He was willing to come last weekend but I was busy.. he said he could come next weekend but didn't want to wait until then. I told him that I can take a day off and drive to him if he wants because I enjoy traveling and road trips. He was happy at first but then felt as if I had ulterior motives like I may be shady or something.

I've happily stated multiple times that I'm down to take it to a dealership for a PPI or wherever he'd like and, in the end, the only one losing out on the deal is me if I drive all the way to him if I knew there was something wrong that Audi will find... right?

I was asking $47k for the car.. our initial conversation had him offering $45k. I told him it was too low.. then after thinking about it, I decided that if he could come that weekend, I would do it for $45k (which is less than I owe on the car btw).

On Friday, he asked me to go to $44k and I stated I wouldn't be doing that.. he said ok, $45k is good.

Today, he calls and says that based on websites like Edmunds etc, he can only give me $44k. I told him that if he could get a car with all the options he wanted (like mine), for $44k, that he would've done it already. As we all know, market value changes daily. When pricing my car, I took the temperature of the REAL market by researching what was out there and pricing mine accordingly.

You've all been on both sides of this I'm sure. I'm just trying to walk away from this car so I can start saving that money. $45k is a good price in Southern California for a manual (afig367, manuals are so hard to find, they often sell for more in the private market) with my options in this condition.

I'm an honest man just trying to make a deal happen. 400 miles seems like nothing to me in order to help both of us out. If that makes me shady or a bad guy then that makes me bummed about what has happened in this community.

-AJ

Sounds reasonable, and if the PPI checks out and you're bringing the car to him, $45k is fair. One should not let $1k get in the way of a car they really want.

[levigarrett]

I say get the inspection done. If all checks out, you're good to go!

[RickFLS4]

I think these guys either need to work out something between them without the rest or us of go their separate ways. Plenty of opinions here and plenty of data to figure out a fair price. If they can't agree on price, PPI and delivery then not much the rest of us can do.

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[washyourrhands]

with a car with this few miles I don't see the issue here. get it checked out and if its good to go then go for it. It seems like it was mostly highway miles which are easy on the motor. I agree. don't let 1k stand in the way of a great car. Good luck!

[expelled]

I think these guys either need to work out something between them without the rest or us of go their separate ways. Plenty of opinions here and plenty of data to figure out a fair price. If they can't agree on price, PPI and delivery then not much the rest of us can do.

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agreed. I just wanted to clear those few things up so I didn't look like some shady sketchball. He knows what it'll take to get the car so it's in his court. Thank you everyone for your input.

[riseabv]

Glad to hear both sides and buyer definitely seems legit and wasn't lashing out from (potential buyer) said story.


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[expelled]

Glad to hear both sides and buyer definitely seems legit and wasn't lashing out from (potential buyer) said story.


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For sure.. I didn't get the impression he was lashing out.. I think the thread started to roll into some assumed negativity around the questions he had in regards to my situation so I just wanted to set it straight. Thanks!

[athlon64x2]

Alright .. we tried to do a deal yesterday but since his car is leased Audi FS has to handover the title to him and then he needs to clear it of any leins and he will then have to pay taxes (which is another 4200 bucks) and only then can we transfer the title over to me .. so basically it fell off ..

Anyways I am looking for an Audi S4 and here is my ad :

Interested in buying a 2012/2013 Audi S4 with low miles with possibly the following options :

Color Preference - Monsoon Grey or Red or Ice Silver or Black(in that order)

Less than 25k(2012) or 15K(2013) miles on the car.
Audi MMI Navigation Plus Package
Sport Differential
Audi Advanced Key
Bang & Olufsen Sound System
Carbon Atlas Dash Inlays
Black optics alloys(preferable but not necessary )
Audi care

Let me know if you have one to sell. I am Phoenix area so I can try to meet in 400-500 miles radius.

Thanks

[IanCH]

you couldn't take over his lease? terms weren't good?

[athlon64x2]

I thought the Audi doesnt do a transfer of lease .. at least thats what I learnt from the seller too ..

[superswiss]

Alright .. we tried to do a deal yesterday but since his car is leased Audi FS has to handover the title to him and then he needs to clear it of any leins and he will then have to pay taxes (which is another 4200 bucks) and only then can we transfer the title over to me .. so basically it fell off ..

I thought this was obvious. One can't sell something they don't own. A lease is just a long term rental.