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    Said F*ck it. Went to Stage 2.

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    After much debating, contemplating, and shopping around decided to do the GIAC stage 2 and awe pulley. Ordered the tune from a local performance shop today. Will have it installed in the car on Wednesday and I'll post videos and impressions after (you know bc nobody else has done that on here..)

    Whats interesting is the stage 2 GIAC tune with install was $300 cheaper than the stage 2 APR tune with install. Made the decision pretty easy. SOOOOOOO EXCITED!!

    EDIT: 3/12/14
    Just drove home after the install, there was a bunch of traffic on the way so didnt really get to open her up.

    But holy shit. The 30-60 jump feels so much faster than stock. The car just LEAPS forward. Still need a couple days for the ECU to learn the tune. I'll be dyno-ing in a couple weeks.
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    Stock tune is plenty fast for me... But I also have very small testicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raudiace4 View Post
    After much debating, contemplating, and shopping around decided to do the GIAC stage 2 and awe pulley. Ordered the tune from a local performance shop today. Will have it installed in the car on Wednesday and I'll post videos and impressions after (you know bc nobody else has done that on here..)

    Whats interesting is the stage 2 GIAC tune with install was $300 cheaper than the stage 2 APR tune with install. Made the decision pretty easy. SOOOOOOO EXCITED!!
    I wonder why the APR tune + install is more expensive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadycrew31 View Post
    Stock tune is plenty fast for me... But I also have very small testicles.
    You must also have a DSG. Only people with 3 pedals have big balls

    Keep in mind though, that small potatoes make the steak look bigger LOL

    OP: can't wait until my warranty is done, so that I have nothing holding me back from going stage 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadycrew31 View Post
    Stock tune is plenty fast for me... But I also have very small testicles.
    Lol i decided I need to let this car live up to its potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMann View Post
    Super jelly bruh
    DO IT. Just do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fritze18 View Post
    You must also have a DSG. Only people with 3 pedals have big balls

    Keep in mind though, that small potatoes make the steak look bigger LOL

    OP: can't wait until my warranty is done, so that I have nothing holding me back from going stage 2
    Hey hey hey, come on now. Im DSG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BzzzBom View Post
    I wonder why the APR tune + install is more expensive?
    I'm thinking it's just more the shop and labor. The giac tune by itself was about ~$100 cheaper than the APR by itself. The pulley was the same cost for both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raudiace4 View Post
    Hey hey hey, come on now. Im DSG.
    Hahaha so am I
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    is apr putting out higher gains than giac?

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    Had a similar experience this week... so happy I did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canieat View Post
    is apr putting out higher gains than giac?
    Both are similar and most don't even dyno
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    Quote Originally Posted by canieat View Post
    is apr putting out higher gains than giac?
    There were some guys reporting the APR stage 2 tune was faster than the GIAC, but that was the old version of GIAC stage 2. The new version of GIAC is just as fast supposedly.
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    Said F*ck it. Went to Stage 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Usa View Post
    Had a similar experience this week... so happy I did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raudiace4 View Post
    Hey hey hey, come on now. Im DSG.
    Quote Originally Posted by fritze18 View Post
    Hahaha so am I
    Love my DSG
    Real men drive DSG's, I stopped playing with my stick a while ago. These days I like my gears shifted by an outside source...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoJoe View Post
    Good news on the tune OP, but....



    Lulz


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    Quote Originally Posted by fritze18 View Post
    You must also have a DSG. Only people with 3 pedals have big balls
    Ignorance is bliss

    Edit: LOL

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    Congrats can't wait to hear the results. Only reason I've not made the move is I'm on the fence for which tune to purchase. My old SA recommended going giac as the scanners have been unable to detect a tune in his length of time with audi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by riseabv View Post
    Congrats can't wait to hear the results. Only reason I've not made the move is I'm on the fence for which tune to purchase. My old SA recommended going giac as the scanners have been unable to detect a tune in his length of time with audi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoJoe View Post
    Good news on the tune OP, but....



    hahahahaha
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    Congrats! Tell us how much of a difference you feel. I'm thinking of going with Stasis Stage 1 for starts and because of the warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeShow View Post
    Congrats! Tell us how much of a difference you feel. I'm thinking of going with Stasis Stage 1 for starts and because of the warranty.
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    Have the GIAC stage 2 and am completely blew away with it and I hear a new update is around the corner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massey View Post
    Have the GIAC stage 2 and am completely blew away with it and I hear a new update is around the corner
    I can +1 that. DSG tune honestly makes a huge difference in day to day driving. Get it when you can ! Enjoy :)

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    Congrats... I've noticed two things since going stage 2. I laugh out loud a lot more in the car, and I'm spending a lot more on gas (because the acceleration is eff-ing addicting)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massey View Post
    Have the GIAC stage 2 and am completely blew away with it and I hear a new update is around the corner
    Oh, do tell. I'm going stage two in the next few months and was thinking APR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massey View Post
    Have the GIAC stage 2 and am completely blew away with it and I hear a new update is around the corner
    I heard that too... interested in more info on what they are updating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massey View Post
    Have the GIAC stage 2 and am completely blew away with it and I hear a new update is around the corner
    Sweeet
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    Maybe GIAC can chime in on rumors of this updated new tune and what its bringing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by audistealth View Post
    Oh, do tell. I'm going stage two in the next few months and was thinking APR.
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    I really want to tune my s4,even after owning it for a week. But I fear voiding the warranty. And I'm not sure what happens if you tune a lease. Don't want to get hammered with fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raudiace4 View Post
    Maybe GIAC can chime in on rumors of this updated new tune and what its bringing?
    My understanding is that it fixed an issue where the max boost was being cut short of what was intended resulting in something like 15.5-16.5 vs 17.5 (give or take) at various RPM levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemlawk View Post
    I really want to tune my s4,even after owning it for a week. But I fear voiding the warranty. And I'm not sure what happens if you tune a lease. Don't want to get hammered with fees.
    This is how you tune a lease.


    You don't.
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    What was the cost for the stage 2 tune?


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    did you get the cold front system as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemlawk View Post
    I really want to tune my s4,even after owning it for a week. But I fear voiding the warranty. And I'm not sure what happens if you tune a lease. Don't want to get hammered with fees.
    Tune it and convert it back to stock before you return it at end of lease. I went all APR because of the quality and reputation. If you purchase the APR Reflash you can flash the ECU back to stock before you return for warranty work should you have an issue. However, be prepared to buy the car at end of lease if you decide to tune it.. Some dealers do not care, some will not notice, some will negotiate a new car from you to accept the return and some will make you purchase the car.. Is it a risk you are willing to take? Many have...
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    Quote Originally Posted by drkstrA4 View Post
    did you get the cold front system as well?
    No. That comes later. I don't track my car or plan to. So heat soak shouldnt be much of an issue for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmkam View Post
    My understanding is that it fixed an issue where the max boost was being cut short of what was intended resulting in something like 15.5-16.5 vs 17.5 (give or take) at various RPM levels.
    Interesting... I'm assuming making the tune stronger yet. Is this on Stage 1 tunes or Stage 2? Hopefully they will do an announcement.

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