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    How do we encourage Stasis eng.to get the S6/S7 ECU tunes out sooner than later?

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    Standard reply for 6 months is that they are working on it when you call and they are currently more focused on refreshing 2014 tunes for the S4's, A6 etc.

    Is there anyway, we can contact them as a collective team of enthusiast or Audizine and encourage that they get moving on this? Does anyone have a contact at Stasis that can provide some additional info on how things are progressing and when the product will be released?

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    I imagine they are still working on the s4 tunes to stay in the game. There is a lot more volume of sales in the S4 and 2.0t platforms than the 4.0tt. I'm certain they will get around to it, but not sure there will be much anyone could do to speed it up.
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    Simple supply and demand. Way more A6's and S4's on the streets than S6/7's I would think
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    I understand why (demand and supply). Question is how can we get encourage them to move faster as an enthusiast group, anyone have any contacts at Stasis?

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    Best encuragement to Stasis is to buy GIAC or APR, or nothing, until Statis gets product developed and clears up the confusion over whether or not they backstop Audi warranty coverage as they once claimed. This latter issue, unfortunately, is the customer's to bear for any tuner at this point.

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    Don't APR and GIAC also face the same model specific supply/demand issues? The better question to ask is why have almost all the other tuners in the world come up with ECU upgrades for this platform except Stasis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moosehead1 View Post
    Best encuragement to Stasis is to buy GIAC or APR, or nothing, until Statis gets product developed and clears up the confusion over whether or not they backstop Audi warranty coverage as they once claimed. This latter issue, unfortunately, is the customer's to bear for any tuner at this point.
    Seems very different than what GIAC/APR offers (refer to warranty info on the site):
    http://stasisengineering.com/sites/d...20JH101613.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by VVG View Post
    Don't APR and GIAC also face the same model specific supply/demand issues? The better question to ask is why have almost all the other tuners in the world come up with ECU upgrades for this platform except Stasis?
    GIAC just came out with a flash a month ago. Almost a year behind APR and unitronic


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    Quote Originally Posted by ecpChris View Post
    GIAC just came out with a flash a month ago. Almost a year behind APR and unitronic


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    Correct but there was also evidence for atleast a month or two that the release was imminent. Also do not forget that they simultaneously released a DSG tune which would have also taken additional development time. There is nothing there that suggests Stasis will release there tune in a month or even two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatorguy View Post
    Correct but there was also evidence for atleast a month or two that the release was imminent. Also do not forget that they simultaneously released a DSG tune which would have also taken additional development time. There is nothing there that suggests Stasis will release there tune in a month or even two.
    I'm not disagreeing. I don't think Stasis would release anything anytime soon. There has been zero chatter and no leaks of anything. Haven't seen anyone from Stasis even comment in this section except about an a6 RSB


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    Quote Originally Posted by moosehead1 View Post
    Best encuragement to Stasis is to buy GIAC or APR, or nothing, until Statis gets product developed and clears up the confusion over whether or not they backstop Audi warranty coverage as they once claimed. This latter issue, unfortunately, is the customer's to bear for any tuner at this point.
    To add to this, best motivation for any company is competition and from our perspective there's no reason to wait out Stasis with two high quality options. Plus, aren't you just waiting for Stasis to rebrand one of these tunes anyway? :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nafzal80 View Post
    Seems very different than what GIAC/APR offers (refer to warranty info on the site):
    http://stasisengineering.com/sites/d...20JH101613.pdf
    Stassis is a ponzy scheme. Their warranty has no underwriter.

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    You seem to have experience or knowledge about the Stasis warranty. Can you please explain? Serious question, would not want to spend my money on a false warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    Stassis is a ponzy scheme. Their warranty has no underwriter.
    You seem to have experience or knowledge about the Stasis warranty. Can you please explain? Serious question, would not want to spend my money on a false warranty.

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    The issues I have seen (but not experienced first hand), is that Audi may deny a warranty claim that is powertrain related (blaming it on the Stasis tune). After Stasis reviews the claim (for their warranty reimbursement), they may come to the conclusion that it is not the fault of their tune and that Audi should cover it. So now you have Audi pointing the finger to Stasis, and vice versa.

    In the meantime, you (the customer) will need to pay to get your car fixed and back on the road. Audi/Stasis may go back and forth for some time, and one of them may or may not ultimately reimburse you.
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    It has nothing to do with hypotheticals or rumors.

    Actually read the warranty and realize what they are actually providing. Insurance without an underwriter.

    They are rolling the dice and trying to pad their margin with a straw mans warranty that almost depreciates your cars value vs a competitions tune.

    For example, you cannot CPO a stasis car. What's that worth to you? It's non transferable. It can be voided if any other aftermarket part is on your car.

    It's also the weakest tune. Most people running v1 don't realize it's actually an APR 91 tune file. They don't actually do anything other than buy other peoples shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    It has nothing to do with hypotheticals or rumors.

    Actually read the warranty and realize what they are actually providing. Insurance without an underwriter.

    They are rolling the dice and trying to pad their margin with a straw mans warranty that almost depreciates your cars value vs a competitions tune.

    For example, you cannot CPO a stasis car. What's that worth to you? It's non transferable. It can be voided if any other aftermarket part is on your car.

    It's also the weakest tune. Most people running v1 don't realize it's actually an APR 91 tune file. They don't actually do anything other than buy other peoples shit.
    all makes sense. but, if they are buying other people's shit, why it is taking them so long. APR tune was out more than a year ago...

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    Because apr won't sell it to them.

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    Stasis merged with REVO back in 2012, so all of the more recent tunes are done by REVO;

    http://stasisrevo.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by nafzal80 View Post
    You seem to have experience or knowledge about the Stasis warranty. Can you please explain? Serious question, would not want to spend my money on a false warranty.
    Audi has distanced themselves from Stasis according to my dealer. They no longer warantee Stasis's upgrades like BMW does with DINAN or Callaway with Chevrolet. Bummer
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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    ..It's also the weakest tune...
    May have been true about the v1.0 3.0T tune, but several 12.3-12.4 @ 111-113 mph passes with v2.0 proves that this is no longer the case.
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    So now it's the most aggressive tune. (Timing and torque limits)

    "Man I wish stasis would hurry up and make the most dangerous tune so I can have a worthless warranty by a company with no underwriter. When I am done with the car, I cannot CPO it or eliminate a td1 key."

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    So now it's the most aggressive tune...
    Yes, well I suppose that you could take virtually any information and spin/twist it to fit your view of the world, but you're still posting your opinion as if it's a fact...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcd2.7t View Post
    Yes, well I suppose that you can take any information and spin/twist it to fit your view of the world, but you're still posting your opinion, not facts...
    That is a fact. APR has posted the logs and screen shots of the tune, knock molestation, etc.

    I have purchased giac, apr, Cobb, etc over my lifetime. I am not a paid spokesperson, but someone who has spent an hour using the search button.

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    Back on-topic, I wouldn't be holding your breath for a STaSIS 4.0T tune...
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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    That is a fact. APR has posted the logs and screen shots of the tune, knock molestation, etc.

    I have purchased giac, apr, Cobb, etc over my lifetime. I am not a paid spokesperson, but someone who has spent an hour using the search button.
    The logs APR posted were of a previous REVO tune, not the STaSIS Signature tune, so perhaps your search button needs calibration...?
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    Same tune, different branding.

    Just ask our resident expert WestWest.

    I'm done arguing. Believe what you want. I have no dog in this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    ...I'm done arguing...
    See, that's the thing - I was never arguing - I was only clarifying that what you presented as facts were actually just your opinions.
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    Saying my posts are opinion are an opinion in itself.

    If you choose to stick your head in the sand about Stasis, that is your right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    Saying my posts are opinion are an opinion in itself.

    If you choose to stick your head in the sand about Stasis, that is your right.
    Can you please explain the facts around this? I would like to know the reality. What have you heard/experienced in the past?

    There are several dealers I have spoken to have that have assured me no issues with regards to warranty and are continue working with both companies together (Audi and Stasis).

    Would like to here previous experiences. Appreciate the help in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    That is a fact. APR has posted the logs and screen shots of the tune, knock molestation, etc.

    I have purchased giac, apr, Cobb, etc over my lifetime. I am not a paid spokesperson, but someone who has spent an hour using the search button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    Saying my posts are opinion are an opinion in itself.

    If you choose to stick your head in the sand about Stasis, that is your right.
    No, you stated that the STaSIS tune was weak (which is your opinion), but the FACT is that the opposite is true. You also posted that logs of STaSIS-tuned cars showed irregularities, but I defy you to show anyone proof of that...

    I don't need to ignore anything about STaSIS - my car has been tuned since new, and at 69K miles still runs perfectly, and strong, and I've never had any warranty issues whatsoever that were affected by the tune. Those are FACTS.

    (I'm also not a spokesperson, paid or otherwise, and I also have no "dog in this fight" - I just don't like people presenting their opinions as facts.)
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    Stasis tuned, now it all makes sense.

    Go to AudiRevolution if you want logs and 1/4 mile proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    Stasis tuned, now it all makes sense.
    Yep, and it's been right there in my sig the whole time - I have nothing to hide.

    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    Go to AudiRevolution if you want logs and 1/4 mile proof.
    I've been on AudiRevolution for quite a while, and the "proof" you reference DOESN'T EXIST. If you think it does, by all means, please link us to it! (and not to any REVO 93 logs, because that's not the STaSIS Signature tune)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sciblades View Post
    off topic but how is your s6 running?
    Good, going in for service Friday then tune shortly after. Still 100% stock, but would love an on demand valved exhaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zcd2.7t View Post
    Yep, and it's been right there in my sig the whole time - I have nothing to hide.



    I've been on AudiRevolution for quite a while, and the "proof" you reference DOESN'T EXIST. If you think it does, by all means, please link us to it! (and not to any REVO 93 logs, because that's not the STaSIS Signature tune)
    You are right, the Stasis tune is the REVO 91 tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    And this is why I'm calling bullsh*t on your claim about ugly logs on this tune - those logs don't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcd2.7t View Post
    And this is why I'm calling bullsh*t on your claim about ugly logs on this tune - those logs don't exist.
    Must I do everything for you?





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    Tunes change between car models just like between companies. I don't know if APR has the best tunes for the S4 or other cars but it seems they are the clear best for the S6. Stasis will have the weakest tune because they have been extra worried about tuning the S6. There have been numerous mentions of only a 91 octane tune being available to keep Hp lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatorguy View Post
    Tunes change between car models just like between companies. I don't know if APR has the best tunes for the S4 or other cars but it seems they are the clear best for the S6. Stasis will have the weakest tune because they have been extra worried about tuning the S6. There have been numerous mentions of only a 91 octane tune being available to keep Hp lower.
    Do you have a fact based reason to believe that stasis is extra worried about the c7 s6 tune and that the tune for this car will have the weakest tune? If it's an opinion based on previous model tunes, that's fine, if it's based on info you happen to have about there upcoming c7 s6 tune from a reliable source, even better, I would like to know, please explain either way (would genuinely like to know).

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