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    Established Member Two Rings
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    I'm test driving a new AllRoad

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    2011 B8 S4 at the dealer to see why the engine light came on, and I asked them to let me take a new allroad as a loaner.

    I am an avant fan. I had a b5 avant before the S4 and a little part of me died when I had to go to the sedan. Couple years on in the S4 and I am really missing the avant.

    First impressions on the drive from the dealership to my office is that it is fine for 90% of the driving I do. I will miss the big hammer when I want to us it, but as far as S4 owners go I probably use it very little. I thought the ride quality was nice too, firmer than I was expecting but it definitely starts to roll under moderate cornering. If I squint I don't know if I could tell the interior apart. The S4 is nicer, but I don't think it'd take me long to forget what was different.

    One thing hanging me up right now are the horrible wheels. I hate the wheels on this thing. I've seen real nice aftermarket wheels on some lowered allroads, but was wondering what's a real attractive offering if you want to keep the stock ride height and tire size. Any suggestions?

    thanks.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings drob23's Avatar
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    Doesn't the allroad have higher stock ride height than the b8 avant? That car would be awesome with some coils (springs would prob be too far for stock shocks if going for 1 finger type wheel gap) and EC suspension pieces. Then some nice 19" wheels and flash from APR, exhaust. Would probably get you close to B8 S4 stock type power, maybe not low-end torque though. Only people that wouldn't work for are ones who keep ECU's stock, want Stg 2 power from the S4 or want 6MT.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings b6onboost's Avatar
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    If you don't utilize the S4's perfromance, you might as well be in an A4 or an Allroad.

    If you got an Allroad you could use basically any OEM Audi wheel, 18s, 19s, etc and pair it with the proper tire size.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings name.goes.here's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by raudiace4 View Post
    Avant circlejerk ensues.
    Awwwwwww....... does someone feel left out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b6onboost View Post
    If you don't utilize the S4's perfromance, you might as well be in an A4 or an Allroad.

    If you got an Allroad you could use basically any OEM Audi wheel, 18s, 19s, etc and pair it with the proper tire size.
    I was thinking about that. I have my stock 19" peelers, those might look nice with a beefier tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbosco View Post
    I was thinking about that. I have my stock 19" peelers, those might look nice with a beefier tire.
    wouldn't you need like 25mm spacers all the way around because of the allroad fender flares? im not sure what stock ET is on allroad wheels
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    Veteran Member Four Rings RickFLS4's Avatar
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    I thought the AllRoad was an unacceptable replacement for Avant enthusiasts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickFLS4 View Post
    I thought the AllRoad was an unacceptable replacement for Avant enthusiasts...
    It is, might as well buy a Q5 /w the 3.0T in some flavor

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    Veteran Member Three Rings Tweakophyte's Avatar
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    Both the allroad and the (S)Q5 need adjustable height along with the adaptive suspension. The Allroad needs the supercharged 6.
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    The flat seats were enough for me to pass. However, a slammed and modded All-Road is better looking than a S-Line in IMO. Get the seats re-done and a chip and some crazy concave wheels and you are set!

    There are a few already done with color-matched fenders and they look absolutely amazing! This guys All-Road is one of the best: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ggered-fitment

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Thanks, but I'm looking for suggestions WITH keeping the stock ride height.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings name.goes.here's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickFLS4 View Post
    I thought the AllRoad was an unacceptable replacement for Avant enthusiasts...
    Generally is unacceptable, yes. But some may elect the "any port in a storm" philosophy.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings RickFLS4's Avatar
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    ^ As I have suggested previously, this philosophy seems to validate Audi's strategy of not importing an Avant. If those most enthused by the Avant will accept a CUV/SUV (including an AllRoad), hard to believe Audi would ever consider bringing an Avant back. I'll stop there...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings B8 S FOR's Avatar
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    Recently had an Allroad as a loaner. Seems like a good looking grocery getter to me. #dislike
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    Final Update. The dealer had to keep my car for the week so I had a lot of time with the allroad. I am disappointed to say that I liked it less and less everyday: the steering, throttle, suspension, transmission... even those stupid plastic fenders bothered me more and more everyday. Then the kicker... when I got back in my S4 I was blown away with how much better it felt before I even hit the start button. Once I did I was reminded about all the other things....

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    Veteran Member Four Rings B8 S FOR's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbosco View Post
    Final Update. The dealer had to keep my car for the week so I had a lot of time with the allroad. I am disappointed to say that I liked it less and less everyday: the steering, throttle, suspension, transmission... even those stupid plastic fenders bothered me more and more everyday. Then the kicker... when I got back in my S4 I was blown away with how much better it felt before I even hit the start button. Once I did I was reminded about all the other things....
    Told ya! Nothing more than an Audi Grocery getting wagon for moms!
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    My 2011 is in for the same reason but all I got was a base A4 :/

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    Veteran Member Four Rings B8 S FOR's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jango3434 View Post
    Sexy moms....
    Why? Just because it has Audi rings on it? It's still a wagon and handles like one. Personally, I think it's really ugly.
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    You prefer moms in Carollas.... Just sayin..
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    Veteran Member Four Rings name.goes.here's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jango3434 View Post
    You prefer moms in Carollas.... Just sayin..
    Think he may prefer men, actually.
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    Must be that... must be...
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    Veteran Member Three Rings bkkchris's Avatar
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    I dunno, I have an Allroad too (well the gf has it) and I really love it. Looks great when tastefully modded. No it does not have the performance of an S, but its a pretty great car in my opinion and I would be quite happy driving it as my only car.
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